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Pedal That Emulates B-15 Overdriven Sound???

VT Bass or any of its siblings will probably do it. Still wowed by that pedal and what it brings to my table. Even the band loves it.

Tech21 VT Bass (v.2).jpg

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Man, I really grew to dislike my VT Bass.
I used it for years, hoping we would finally gel.
I think they sound very...synthetic.
It just lacked the warmth it needed to truly accomplish it's goal.
I have a VT Deluxe and used to have a 1st gen VT, and I felt that way for a little while after initially totally loving it, and quit using it for about a year and a half. But I started using it again this summer, and while I won't mistake it for my tube Ampegs or REDDI, it makes a nice addition to them and I don't think it sounds any more synthetic than any other pedals. Plus it has a good speaker sim, which I find necessary to control my overdrive tones in FOH. It is, however, not an easy pedal to master. The controls are super sensitive and difficult to adjust on the fly till you get used to using it, and programming the VTD adds a little more to that learning curve. But it ain't brain surgery and I figured it out soon enough, even though there are times I feel I'm still learning it. The Ginger/Flipster is another pedal that I've been pretty impressed by, even though I've never owned one, but the speaker sim in the VT makes it more attractive to me.
 
My Johnk-built runoffgroove Ginger is my favorite pedal OF ALL TIME [/echo echo echo]. It's the one pedal I've never even thought of flipping for something else, and it ended my run of pedals attempting the Ampeg fliptop sound. I use it in front of my Ampegs for an overdrive and use it in front of any other amp to give them more of a B15 feel/response.
 
My Johnk-built runoffgroove Ginger is my favorite pedal OF ALL TIME [/echo echo echo]. It's the one pedal I've never even thought of flipping for something else, and it ended my run of pedals attempting the Ampeg fliptop sound. I use it in front of my Ampegs for an overdrive and use it in front of any other amp to give them more of a B15 feel/response.
Much much better than the B15 sim in the B1on/B3?
 
My Johnk-built runoffgroove Ginger is my favorite pedal OF ALL TIME [/echo echo echo]. It's the one pedal I've never even thought of flipping for something else, and it ended my run of pedals attempting the Ampeg fliptop sound. I use it in front of my Ampegs for an overdrive and use it in front of any other amp to give them more of a B15 feel/response.
Ordered mine yesterday from vfe, looking forward to it :)
 
No comparison. Like all of their amp sims, the b15 is a good sound but not a convincing signature tone replica. The real difference is the zoom can't digitally recreate the compression, reaction to your playing, warm breakup, etc. that you get with the circuitry of the Ginger.
Bryan, have you tried to come up with a patch using compression, B15, and anything else that might help deliver all those qualities on the B3/B1on?
 
I agree with Jimmy that the VT Bass doesn't sound any more synthetic than any other pedal; it's either an SVT amp or it's not.
I like what the VT Bass pedal does and how it does it but it only serves me on smaller amps or halfstacks when playing parties or jams. If I'm playing my gigging rig then THAT is my sound, and it's not an Ampeg sound. Trying to make an SWR or Hartke sound like an Ampeg by putting a pedal in front of it is not very effective to me. I do, however, enjoy using the VTB as an overdrive.
 
Bryan, have you tried to come up with a patch using compression, B15, and anything else that might help deliver all those qualities on the B3/B1on?

I've been working on something like that for the 60b using the acoustic sim (recently posted in the patch ideas thread), and I'll probably give it a shot with the B15 on the B1on some time. While the patch can approximate the sound of compression, and I've tried to recreate tube feel with a few sonic tricks to be good enough for a live mix, it still doesn't compare to something like the Ginger because of what John said above about analog Jfet circuits. That feel and nuance of (Ampeg) tone is what really sets the Ginger apart and why I always keep it on my board.