Never really needed a phaser before. My band just started covering Stranglehold, which made it a necessity. Got my hands on a Boss PH-2, and it does what I need it to do. For now, I am happy.
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Phase shifter
- Thread starter bmason81
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Which phaser models do you have in the B3? The one phaser model in the MS-60B leaves a lot to be desired, IMHO. I find it strange that it doesn't have a Phase 90 model.
I like the 4 phase and 8 phase. Haven't found a place for the Warp Phase. I also like the phase-distortion dual model in the B3.
IMO close, but not close enough.
But I admit that I don't own an original MXR, only 2 clones that are really good.
If the original Phase 90 sounds like the 4-Phaser, I am really happy that I went for the clones. But from what I gather from YouTube comparisons, my clones are much closer to the MXR Phase 90 than any setting of the MS-60B Phaser model. They all have an annoying, Flanger like whooshing sweep sound, which is the main reason I never warmed to the Flanger.
No, the 4-Phaser does not sound exactly like a Phase 90. You can tweak it so it gets close to it but the whooshing sound you mention is always there. You can't hear it in a mix though.
I have quite a few phasers so when I'm putting together a board and want to put the B3 on it I'll just use that for phase instead of trying to cram my actual Phase 90 or Empress Phaser onto the board. This way I have a spot to put something else on the board instead.
I have quite a few phasers so when I'm putting together a board and want to put the B3 on it I'll just use that for phase instead of trying to cram my actual Phase 90 or Empress Phaser onto the board. This way I have a spot to put something else on the board instead.
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MXR phase 90 no script sounds great after my OD and Fuzz pedals, but before m chorus Amp simulator and resonant low pass filter. I like it with the fuzz and a slow sweep.
Here is an example with fuzz-> Phase 90-> Low Pass Filter(LPF)
https://soundcloud.com/slpcalamus/air-ace
just skip all of the weirdness at the beginning the bass comes in at 2:30. I sweep the LPF with an expression pedal so the high frequencies come and go, but the phaser and fuzz are on the whole time. If I add the chorus it sounds like an old ARP synth.
Here is another example
https://soundcloud.com/gregg-marcus/the-tower-calamus-14-oct
Most of it has Over Drive into the phase 90 then at around 3:05 I kicked in some fuzz before the OD. No low pass filter on this one.
In general I think of bass as the foundation, kicking in a phaser makes the foundation move so it should be used in the right places. I play a p-bass with flats so I need OD or Fuzz to give the phaser something to play with, straight in the effect is really subtle. A more modern sounding bass with round wound strings will be effected more than my bass.
BTW I find that my non script phase 90 actually increases the volume a little and I don't loose any low end. I hear that the script version is more subtle and might loose some bass but I can't confirm that
Here is an example with fuzz-> Phase 90-> Low Pass Filter(LPF)
https://soundcloud.com/slpcalamus/air-ace
just skip all of the weirdness at the beginning the bass comes in at 2:30. I sweep the LPF with an expression pedal so the high frequencies come and go, but the phaser and fuzz are on the whole time. If I add the chorus it sounds like an old ARP synth.
Here is another example
https://soundcloud.com/gregg-marcus/the-tower-calamus-14-oct
Most of it has Over Drive into the phase 90 then at around 3:05 I kicked in some fuzz before the OD. No low pass filter on this one.
In general I think of bass as the foundation, kicking in a phaser makes the foundation move so it should be used in the right places. I play a p-bass with flats so I need OD or Fuzz to give the phaser something to play with, straight in the effect is really subtle. A more modern sounding bass with round wound strings will be effected more than my bass.
BTW I find that my non script phase 90 actually increases the volume a little and I don't loose any low end. I hear that the script version is more subtle and might loose some bass but I can't confirm that
I love the sound of my Phase90, especially when paired with a fuzz....but despite the dominant opinion in this thread, there's a very noticeable drop in "fullness" and low end when it's engaged.
I have the phase 90 (block) and phase 100. Both are neat, but I'd go with the phase 90 if I just had to choose one.
I used to have a noticeable drop in volume when using my phase 90. I eventually figured out that my phase 90 didn't like another buffer pedal in my chain. So I changed up the order of my chain, and the volume problem disappeared. Maybe you have some similar issue?
I used to have a noticeable drop in volume when using my phase 90. I eventually figured out that my phase 90 didn't like another buffer pedal in my chain. So I changed up the order of my chain, and the volume problem disappeared. Maybe you have some similar issue?
Yup. Got myself a Small Stone today. Really nice pedal. I haven't A/B tested with my other phase shifter pedals, but on the moderate "color" setting, I find it as subtle or maybe even more subtle than a phase 90. The other "color" is really pronounced, and not useable for normal fingerstyle, IMHO. But for slap, pop and even some percussive style I find that the right Rate setting can really add "life" (in the lack of a better word).
Akai Intelliphase. It's BIG (which is not a problem for me in my home studio), but it sounds so good! It's great to have Depth, Speed, Feedback and Touch Sensitivity to play with.
Also, the Behringer Vintage Phaser (which has a lightweight metal housing) is really good, IMO.
I found this out by accident, and I've tried this with two different ones - you can put the Vintage Phaser's Tone (Color) switch in the middle and get a sweet tone between subtle and full-on.
Also, the Behringer Vintage Phaser (which has a lightweight metal housing) is really good, IMO.
I found this out by accident, and I've tried this with two different ones - you can put the Vintage Phaser's Tone (Color) switch in the middle and get a sweet tone between subtle and full-on.
I use a vintage 1970s Mu-tron Phaser.....and the only thing I've used that comes close to it is the vintage MXR- Phase 90 "orange box" phaser. (Not to be confused with the EVH version).
Depending on how you had your board configured, could have been a phase issue. I had one in one channel of a blender, and the volume and bass cut significantly when I clicked on the P90. Fortunately, my blender has a phase reversal switch...flipped that, and it sounded as it should.
I'm currently running a Phase 90, but the boost in volume/mids is enough to put me into overdrive territory. I unsoldered R28 (I think?) and it fixed the mids issue, but there's still the volume boost. I will probably operate to address that next. That is, assuming I don't just wind up buying the Gilamondo in the classifieds first.
Phase 90 script
I love my Mu-Tron phasors but they aren't too comfortable to gig with given the AC power needs
I love my Mu-Tron phasors but they aren't too comfortable to gig with given the AC power needs
