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Playing a Rickenbacker made me hate Rickenbacker

Bah!

Who rebuilds a car engine anymore?? And, in the run up to that first 100K, how many quirky issues are they having?


A lot less than they used to.

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Just take a look at when states instituted "lemon laws"
 
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Thanks for the Speed Queen washer link. When my 4 year old GE Hi-efficiency POS finally bites the dust (it's close right now) I'm for sure getting a SQ for sure....with mechanical controls! :thumbsup:

I had a $700 LG front loader fail at 2 years old. Front load washers (outside of a few European high dollar models) are basically designed to fail.

The only good thing about frontload HE washers is efficiency. They don't wash as well, have a bad tendency to develop a funk, and they're designed to fail...

The entire washtub is supported of the spider/motor shaft, the spider is made of aluminum, it's attached to a stainless tub (galvanic corrosion), and it spends all it's time submerged in a solution... a solution which due to detergent has a pH above 8, the point where aluminum starts to corrode.

If you use bleach, it's even worse - aluminum corrodes great with bleach water.

I was going to buy a Speed Queen - but instead decided to just buy a used, early 1990s, top loader for about $150 bucks.
 
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I had a $700 LG front loader fail at 2 years old. Front load washers (outside of a few European high dollar models) are basically designed to fail.

The only good thing about frontload HE washers is efficiency. They don't wash as well, have a bad tendency to develop a funk, and they're designed to fail...

The entire washtub is supported of the spider/motor shaft, the spider is made of aluminum, it's attached to a stainless tub (galvanic corrosion), and it spends all it's time submerged in a solution... a solution which due to detergent has a pH above 8, the point where aluminum starts to corrode.

If you use bleach, it's even worse - aluminum corrodes great with bleach water.

I was going to buy a Speed Queen - but instead decided to just buy a used, early 1990s, top loader for about $150 bucks.

My buddy's wife had to have the fancy Neptune washer & dryer set when they first came out. Paid about $2K for the pair. The front load washer has leaked from Day 1, Maytag has replaced the seal at least a half dozen times under warranty. It still leaks. Looks nice, though! lol
 
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So I was beginning to think a certain uber poster, who owns a Rick and may or may not be a huge Lemmy fan, was conspicuously absent from this thread. Then I realized, I had not seen him around much at all. So I looked into it, and he has become the TB equivalent of an un-person.

What went down that finally sealed his fate?
 
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Just FYI, the Ric I bought from Wildwood (and then returned) had a major dead spot on the fretboard, and the fretboard itself was a dark, ugly rosewood, not like the bright reddish colors I've seen on so many other Ric boards.

I also didn't like the baseball bat sized neck. I love the look and sound of Rics, but I guess that's about it.
 
At this point I think the OP's original statement is besides the point. Anything that gets a bunch of relative strangers talking about everything from guitars to appliances while being civil is a good thing. As far as modern engines vs old goes.....as cool as old quirky V8's are (and I've built a number of Pontiac and Buick engines including a 425 Nailhead stroked with a 455 crank) nothing from the heyday of musclecars compared to the new Camaro LT1 with 400+HP and 25 mpg with the it's first tuneup not due till after it's paid off.
 
Yeah, Rickenbacker QC is... shoddy (to say the least), but that company can afford it to offer such things, since they're sitting on a nicely filled in order book, and there's only one company that makes Rickenbacker. Same applies to Gibson btw (excluding the Memphis archtop facility)

I have owned many over the years and always found them generally well made and no one else makes anything comparable.
 
Just FYI, the Ric I bought from Wildwood (and then returned) had a major dead spot on the fretboard, and the fretboard itself was a dark, ugly rosewood, not like the bright reddish colors I've seen on so many other Ric boards.

I also didn't like the baseball bat sized neck. I love the look and sound of Rics, but I guess that's about it.

Generally a dead spot on a Rick is something to do with the truss rods settings, give them a little tweak and usually it will disappear. After a bass is made it will settle and usually need to be set up again especially if it's been a few months.
 
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I have owned many over the years and always found them generally well made and no one else makes anything comparable.
So have I (both guitars and basses, from 1970's vintage up until recent instruments), and I wholeheartedly agree with you on the second part. The first however has been a road with ups & downs for me. The vintage instruments were without any exception well built & sounding instruments. The modern ones (post 2005) were sometimes VERY mediocre, with tarnished hardware, dodgy and downright wrong installation of pickups & other hardware, stripped screws, blemished paintwork, half-scraped bindings, shoddy fretwork,...
 
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Ok so I went into Sam Ash yesterday for the sole purpose of trying a Rick. Found the best looking one there (I love there look). Plugged it into a fender rumble and flattened the eq. Same thing I do every time I demo something. The thing played great and sounded better. But there was one problem. The white binding around the body was uneven and the wood color was bleeding through. Right then and there I decided that if there quality control didn't catch such a obvious flaw there is no telling what else they missed. Now if this was the case in a sub $600 bass I wouldn't really care that m much because it is superficial and does not effect the sound or playability. But on a nearly $2,000 bass? Unacceptable.
Why would you try a new one instead of an '85, for example?
Why would you base anything on trying simply one bass?
 
I have owned many over the years and always found them generally well made and no one else makes anything comparable.

+1 - I've played many Rics over the years and found them to be generally very well made as well.

But I've also seen several other companies consistently building basses just as good - and sometimes significantly better than your average Rickenbacker.

So I can only half agree with you. Rickenbacker is a good company that makes a fine and unquestionably unique electric bass. But they're far from being the only company or builder to do so. Or at least so I think based on my own experience.