Please help me keep the lows in my own house

[Riff Ranger]

I.ll beg the opposite...play it hard for couple of days then turn it off. I.m pretty sure they will looking for if was happened something wrong with you...

OMG!! Lol.. like he died or something....

They may have thought I died in the last two days, haha! But I did try this rig just now (with all gain knobs set to about 0.89) to make sure the new-to-me 2x12 (ordered well before I got the note) arrived fully functional. I don't know when I will get to hear this rig in all its early '80s glory, but unlike my tube rig, it doesn't sound so different at very low volume.

The Class D combo should arrive tomorrow.

 

[VolverseLoco]

They may have thought I died in the last two days, haha! But I did try this rig just now (with all gain knobs set to about 0.89) to make sure the new-to-me 2x12 (ordered well before I got the note) arrived fully functional. I don't know when I will get to hear this rig in all its early '80s glory, but unlike my tube rig, it doesn't sound so different at very low volume.
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The Class D combo should arrive tomorrow.

Oh, and I though you had some serious firepower like a Gorilla 25 watt practice amp that was bothering the neighbor.. I don't see a problem here.. And I'm worried about receiving "The Note" due to my TC 500 watt class D and a 15" bassman speaker cabinet. I got nothing to worry about...good Lord! This stuff in your picture is like one of the cannons on the Black Pearl pirate ship!

 

[Downunderwonder]

Bright idea time. Wire a spare cab out of phase and put it on the other side of the room from your practice position. So long as you are next to the main cab you won't hear the out of phase one but in (and outside) the garage will gut the low end. It may be impossible to get a good cancellation without having the cabs very close together.

 

[Riff Ranger]

Bright idea time. Wire a spare cab out of phase and put it on the other side of the room from your practice position. So long as you are next to the main cab you won't hear the out of phase one but in (and outside) the garage will gut the low end. It may be impossible to get a good cancellation without having the cabs very close together.

I find the cancellation idea very intriguing.

 

[seamonkey]

Bright idea time. Wire a spare cab out of phase and put it on the other side of the room from your practice position. So long as you are next to the main cab you won't hear the out of phase one but in (and outside) the garage will gut the low end. It may be impossible to get a good cancellation without having the cabs very close together.

Looks like Cardioid sub approach is gaining ground.

 

[DJ Bebop]

They may have thought I died in the last two days, haha! But I did try this rig just now (with all gain knobs set to about 0.89) to make sure the new-to-me 2x12 (ordered well before I got the note) arrived fully functional. I don't know when I will get to hear this rig in all its early '80s glory, but unlike my tube rig, it doesn't sound so different at very low volume.
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The Class D combo should arrive tomorrow.

I take it you're a Peavey guy

 

[Riff Ranger]

Oh, and I though you had some serious firepower like a Gorilla 25 watt practice amp that was bothering the neighbor.. I don't see a problem here.. And I'm worried about receiving "The Note" due to my TC 500 watt class D and a 15" bassman speaker cabinet. I got nothing to worry about...good Lord! This stuff in your picture is like one of the cannons on the Black Pearl pirate ship!

Burly as it looks and sounds, your TC has almost twice the wattage. This setup gets about 300w; drops to about 200w if I disconnect a cab. Obviously that gets plenty loud! but with similar speaker area, you could get measurably (if not tremendously) louder.

 

[David Jayne]

I find the cancellation idea very intriguing.

If you have a wireless or a trusted pair of ears on another pair of legs you could try it.

 

[Riff Ranger]

I take it you're a Peavey guy

This particular era of Peavey gear holds a special place in my heart.

I suspect this was the rig causing the greatest headache, though:

If I ever set foot in a studio or in a stage regularly again, I will probably spring for a D-800+ and Subway cab(s). But while my current situation persists, I might sell off some extra stuff and invest in better headphones.

 

[byacey]

Something to consider is this:
Not everyone shares your taste in music. Anything that they dislike will be too loud, regardless of the level.

I've observed that it's easier to tolerate something that is obviously too loud if it's music that I like, compared to something that isn't nearly as loud, but something I don't want to hear.

This fact is something the morons with the stereo pounding in the middle of rush hour traffic just don't get.

 

[VolverseLoco]

Something to consider is this:
Not everyone shares your taste in music. Anything that they dislike will be too loud, regardless of the level.

I've observed that it's easier to tolerate something that is obviously too loud if it's music that I like, compared to something that isn't nearly as loud, but something I don't want to hear.

This fact is something the morons with the stereo pounding in the middle of rush hour traffic just don't get.

Yeah, and they are the number one offenders of generally agreed upon by us, dis-likable music, with their 60Hz Ableton Live generated sine wave bass peppered with a 15Khz high hat 32nd note machine gun burst pattern..I know, my son is usually in those cars..

 

[byacey]

Yeah, and they are the number one offenders of generally agreed upon by us, dis-likable music, with their 60Hz Ableton Live generated sine wave bass peppered with a 15Khz high hat 32nd note machine gun burst pattern..I know, my son is usually in those cars..

If he values his long term hearing acuity, you should have a serious talk with him about hearing damage.

If it's that loud at 100 feet or more from the vehicle, what is the SPL when sitting inside the vehicle cab?

 

[VolverseLoco]

If he values his long term hearing acuity, you should have a serious talk with him about hearing damage.

I totally agree with you, but hes really taking it easy now, there isn't any loud music in the Pinellas County lockup in Florida right now. He did teach me how to build the sinewave bass in Ableton Live though.

If it's that loud at 100 feet or more from the vehicle, what is the SPL when sitting inside the vehicle cab?

 

[David Jayne]

Yeah, and they are the number one offenders of generally agreed upon by us, dis-likable music, with their 60Hz Ableton Live generated sine wave bass peppered with a 15Khz high hat 32nd note machine gun burst pattern..I know, my son is usually in those cars..

Great description. Last time I heard that was from somebody's ear buds, across the aisle from me on a two hour flight. I know all the hits now. Of course all I could hear was the synth hat stuff.

 

[Riff Ranger]

The Canadian has landed!

… but amazingly, the Traynor SB112 has nearly as much speaker area and just as much wattage as my Mesa Buster, the chief offender (without the 2x10, which obviously won't get hooked up in this garage).

The low end response of this tiny cube blows my mind, along with any hope of this thing doing much to help matters. Again, I had my wife step outside and listen. It doesn't take much volume at all to be heard outside, but the garage door makes more of a difference than I would have guessed, so that's something. We'll try a few other things tomorrow, including playing in other rooms.

 

[VolverseLoco]

Ok, this is interesting stuff. I got my $15.00 dB sound level meter today. I have a TC 500 head and a 15" Bassman speaker. My practice room in my 1 story house is 12'x12', standard Vegas cheap cookie cutter construction. My room is not a corner room, its in the middle of the length of the West side of the house and has a like a 5'x5' glass window on the wall that faces the outside. There is a 2 story house 15' across from this window and he is on the corner of the street. No fence, all open. The back of my house has a concrete block 6ft high wall and there is a 2 lane kind of main street. If I was to be worried about receiving "The Note", it would be from this 2 story house. I don't even know the people. The back of my Bassman cab faces the wall with this window. I set my amp and playing level a little louder than what I normally play sustained at. The sound meter was 3' away from the cab. It registered average 85db. The notes on the G string got it peaking at 90dB. I played a constant fretted A at the 5th fret which seemed to resonate really nice bass. I play with a pick. The meter sustained 85dB. I then played this same A into my looper pedal and started to walk around the house with the meter. Inside the house in the back bedroom it was 55dB. In the back yard, I could hear the bass a little but the road noise made the meter go in the 70 dB range. I then went to the property line of the 2 story house directly outside my window and it was 55 dB. I am NOT in the least bit worried about receiving "The Note" from ANYONE. To the OP who got the note, I know you had a lot of firepower in your garage and may have been PUSHING it sound wise, but I highly suggest you get a meter with your new rig and find out what your working with, only because you irritated a neighbor and they will have it out for you now. Yes, irritating the neighbor with the bass guitar is not right, but you as a person in your own home have a right to play your music and enjoy yourself, within the law. You might want to check out your local sound ordinances.

So I post the ordinance chart from where I live. If anyone even try's to give me guff, I will have done my research before hand and kindly show them what they are up against, in a nice way, of course. I did my tests giving myself a little 'extra' volume, so I know that when I play regularly I am riding the edge of sound with regards to the one house I *was* worried about (and it wasn't loud at all, and no trace of annoyance like a group of trap music listening teenagers in a car, you know what I mean . I also know that it is only 2 people there and their main bedroom is upstairs on the opposite side of the house as me, so they shouldn't hear damn thing at 10 at night. You need to do reconnaissance on your neighbors too!

 

[Riff Ranger]

I also tried this:

My daughter supplied the artwork. As I wrote my apology, two different neighbors walked by and chuckled. Both had said they had heard me playing, but that they hadn't heard or felt it in their homes, and (to my socially distant face, at least) that they didn't find it overly loud. Both also said the previous occupants had also played music, which I didn't know; I think it was more acoustic guitar strumming than bass booming, but I get the impression that they partied hard, too. This seems like a friendly and forgiving neighborhood. I will try not to test the limits of that.

 

[Riff Ranger]

Ok, this is interesting stuff. I got my $15.00 dB sound level meter today. I have a TC 500 head and a 15" Bassman speaker. My practice room in my 1 story house is 12'x12', standard Vegas cheap cookie cutter construction. My room is not a corner room, its in the middle of the length of the West side of the house and has a like a 5'x5' glass window on the wall that faces the outside. There is a 2 story house 15' across from this window and he is on the corner of the street. No fence, all open. The back of my house has a concrete block 6ft high wall and there is a 2 lane kind of main street. If I was to be worried about receiving "The Note", it would be from this 2 story house. I don't even know the people. The back of my Bassman cab faces the wall with this window. I set my amp and playing level a little louder than what I normally play sustained at. The sound meter was 3' away from the cab. It registered average 85db. The notes on the G string got it peaking at 90dB. I played a constant fretted A at the 5th fret which seemed to resonate really nice bass. I play with a pick. The meter sustained 85dB. I then played this same A into my looper pedal and started to walk around the house with the meter. Inside the house in the back bedroom it was 55dB. In the back yard, I could hear the bass a little but the road noise made the meter go in the 70 dB range. I then went to the property line of the 2 story house directly outside my window and it was 55 dB. I am NOT in the least bit worried about receiving "The Note" from ANYONE. To the OP who got the note, I know you had a lot of firepower in your garage and may have been PUSHING it sound wise, but I highly suggest you get a meter with your new rig and find out what your working with, only because you irritated a neighbor and they will have it out for you now. Yes, irritating the neighbor with the bass guitar is not right, but you as a person in your own home have a right to play your music and enjoy yourself, within the law. You might want to check out your local sound ordinances.

So I post the ordinance chart from where I live. If anyone even try's to give me guff, I will have done my research before hand and kindly show them what they are up against, in a nice way, of course. I did my tests giving myself a little 'extra' volume, so I know that when I play regularly I am riding the edge of sound with regards to the one house I *was* worried about (and it wasn't loud at all, and no trace of annoyance like a group of trap music listening teenagers in a car, you know what I mean . I also know that it is only 2 people there and their main bedroom is upstairs on the opposite side of the house as me, so they shouldn't hear damn thing at 10 at night. You need to do reconnaissance on your neighbors too!



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While I'm more interested in good relationships with my neighbors than in what the law technically allows me to do, I would like to have better data than my wife's best guesses about how things sound outside the house, so I might try something like this myself. I don't anticipate things escalating as I instantly turned down (off, for the first two days) when asked, but it seems wise to have this information just in case it's already too late.

 

[bobyoung53]

Have you tried having a friend play your bass while you walk around outside?

 

[Downunderwonder]

OP is yet to discover HPF!