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Please help me keep the lows in my own house
- Thread starter Riff Ranger
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Moderators: the Amps/Cabs forum seemed like the best fit for this, but obviously we have more to consider than amplification here; please move this to Live Sound or elsewhere if more appropriate, with my thanks and/or apologies.
Contributors: I have read a bit about this subject on TalkBass and elsewhere, but obviously do not have a comprehensive knowledge of the topic or what has already been said on TalkBass. I hope you will kindly provide advice with my specific circumstances in mind. I would strongly prefer to solve this problem by containing my sound rather than changing or eliminating it. In that light, please do not suggest turning down, using headphones, or radically altering my settings. I can figure out any of those approaches easily enough on my own if containing my current decibels and frequencies proves infeasible. I can probably spend up to 500 USD if necessary.
With the preliminaries out of the way:
2020 forced an unexpected and unwanted major relocation upon my family, but at least we landed somewhere wonderful. We moved from a very rural location to a relatively dense neighborhood of single family homes in a college town, and I have literally no complaints about my neighbors. I wish they could say the same about me! We found this on the door this evening:
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The care they took to put this as kindly as they did indicates just how good we have it with neighbors, I think. (I suspect that this would have come up in an equally friendly conversation if not for the ongoing pandemic.)
I DO NOT want to be "that guy" around here, but I would rather not retire my big iron. Can I contain my sound? If so, how?
I currently have things set up like this:
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Things I have tried:
•1x15 solid state 80w combo on a stand facing the outside wall. This seemed unobtrusive until that 30-year-old combo stopped working.
•Tube 200w 1x15 combo on floor facing outside wall, or solid state 200w head w/1x15 cabinet on casters facing outside wall. Perhaps not surprisingly, these setups seem to project into my neighbor's home
Things I could do now but have yet to try:
•I could put my extremely heavy tube combo on the stand.
•I could face any rig in any other direction.
Fun things on the way:
•I have finally cracked and will receive a brand new 200w Class D combo with a neo 1x12 by the end of the week. I can easily put that on the stand.
•I also have a period correct 2x12 on the way, but unless I use it as a somewhat expensive platform for elevating other speakers, it won't help matters.
Things I am considering that would require expenditures:
•Something other than a stand to elevate the modular solid state rig
•Gramma pads or similar
•furniture blankets hanging everywhere
•garage door insulation, if it would allow continued use of the garage door
•a (relatively) inexpensive drum booth
It also occurs to me that I probably haven't thought of everything.
What should I do?
Thank you for any helpful suggestions (or clever jokes).
Oh: nobody playing but me just yet, but my son's acoustic drums will likely enter the picture soon as well.
Have you thought about a Buttkicker for the low end? I used one at Church for over 10 years with an IEM system. Trust me, it is like having a wall of SVTs behind you, and I've actually owned an SVT. As good as ambient sound?? No, but it's pretty stinking good.
I'm here all week!Tough audience!
There might be something to this.I like these
If you took your two speaker cabinets and face them towards you, like this.
Would that not cancel out the bass wave or would the cancelation only happen in the middle and do nothing on the backside? Just got up so, not thinking clear yet
agedhorse? Anyone?
If he was playing in an open field with the complainant's house at the far end he could put the cabs 8ft apart in line with the house and get a pretty effective 80hz centered dropout at the house and full noise standing in the middle.There might be something to this.
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If you took your two speaker cabinets and face them towards you, like this.
Would that not cancel out the bass wave or would the cancelation only happen in the middle and do nothing on the backside? Just got up so, not thinking clear yet
agedhorse? Anyone?
HPF ftw.
Are the "Myth Busters" still in business?
cardioid subs do exist and have since early audio times. I posted links several pages back. Today, DSP is everywhere and it's easier to do.
Another link to show how this works
Kii Audio ::: acoustics
What I've concluded is that Americans need to built using bricks. UK houses have a cinderblock layer and then another brick layer, with insulation inbetween. You an hear my bass right outside the house, but you can't hear it down the road and the neighbours have not complained once. My guess is that the only bass transmission I have is through the windows.
Yeah I've been there/seen that. I think the building materials of choice comes down to what's readily available. We've got a whole Canada full of trees to build with while masonry is expensive.
No doubt. I would have thought that North America had plenty of clay to spare
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That's a great and realistic idea - treating them to a night out. I have a friend who's son plays drums at home - they have arranged the timing with the neighbours so he can play a few times (usually mid-pm) a week and everybody knows when it will be and how long it will last. No problems. Everybody's spending more time at home, not a good time to fracture relationships with people close by.
If I knew who it was, I would. Outside of a pandemic and a dangerously polarized political climate, I might have appreciated a more direct approach, but I think they handled this the best way possible under the circumstances; I appreciate their caution with regard to community transmission of COVID-19, and can't blame them for not signing a note like this in a country as on-edge as the USA right now. Hopefully they have noticed, or will notice soon, that I have kept all noise in the house since I received the note; I didn't turn down—I unplugged.
My new gear will arrive in the next two days, so I will plug back in at reduced volume. I do have a creative plan to make peace (and make light) by turning social distancing and Hallowe'en to my advantage. Stay tuned
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Ah I see, I didn't realise the note was anonymous. That's a shame because their tone is very reasonable - could've been somebody you could deal with in a civilised way. They're lucky to have you as somebody who is responding and trying to come up with a solution.If I knew who it was, I would. Outside of a pandemic and a dangerously polarized political climate, I might have appreciated a more direct approach, but I think they handled this the best way possible under the circumstances; I appreciate their caution with regard to community transmission of COVID-19, and can't blame them for not signing a note like this in a country as on-edge as the USA right now. Hopefully they have noticed, or will notice soon, that I have kept all noise in the house since I received the note; I didn't turn down—I unplugged.
My new gear will arrive in the next two days, so I will plug back in at reduced volume. I do have a creative plan to make peace (and make light) by turning social distancing and Hallowe'en to my advantage. Stay tuned
If I knew who it was, I would. Outside of a pandemic and a dangerously polarized political climate, I might have appreciated a more direct approach, but I think they handled this the best way possible under the circumstances; I appreciate their caution with regard to community transmission of COVID-19, and can't blame them for not signing a note like this in a country as on-edge as the USA right now. Hopefully they have noticed, or will notice soon, that I have kept all noise in the house since I received the note; I didn't turn down—I unplugged.
My new gear will arrive in the next two days, so I will plug back in at reduced volume. I do have a creative plan to make peace (and make light) by turning social distancing and Hallowe'en to my advantage. Stay tuned
Turn up the volume even more, you'll figure out who left the note then...
I.ll beg the opposite...play it hard for couple of days then turn it off. I.m pretty sure they will looking for if was happened something wrong with you...
