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Please help me keep the lows in my own house
- Thread starter Riff Ranger
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I will argue the opposite point on this one. It all depends on the drums and your module. I was an early adopter of electronic drums and endorsed them back when most people didn't know they existed. I started with Syndrums back in the late 70s. Then went through the whole Linndrums phase. Then worked with HartDynamics. Now I have been playing Roland Vdrums & modules for about 10 years and Jobecky electronic cymbals for about 5. I have yet to find much that a the newest Roland 'supernatural' kits can't replicate. Except for my 1970s all fiberglass concert-tom drum sets. (think of Hal Blaine's Blaemire kits). With the newest Jobecky cymbals, which can sound just like my vintage Zildjians, they can't be beat. Properly tweaked and tuned, I am a big fan of Roland's mesh head kits. A beginner or mid level set is not the same quality, but neither is a beginner or mid level acoustic drum set.IMHO, mesh head electronic kit is great for gigs in smoky bars, but useless for recording. The problem isn't really the drums as much as the cymbals. Electronic cymbals have nothing even close to the expressive quality of playing real cymbals (acoustic drums are somewhat similar - but their latent expressiveness isn't exploited as much in pop music...)
I haven't gotten rid of my acoustic sets, but recorded side by side - you can't tell the difference.
My self enforced compromise is that I will use headphones nearly all the time but maximum twice a week in the afternoons before dark I will play at a manageable level through the big rig. As nice as the note was your neighbors expectation of having complete peace and quiet after work is an overall general statement and allows little room for you at all which is not really fair for you (who sounds like a responsible and friendly person). I say, like many have, fair compromise is important for best results. If it makes you feel better then communicate the compromise is best practice for sure but also any neighbour having the expectation of complete peace and quiet will unlikely be as fair with a compromise..IMO. Maybe suggest they put headphones on for their own peace and quiet they are so happy to expect of you...I would spend the $500 on some nice sets for them!!
Eh, I don't read "please turn down" as a demand for total quiet. I would be okay with people hearing it as they walk by—this is easily the quietest neighborhood I have ever lived in, but it's still populated by other humans who do make occasional noise—but I won't enjoy myself knowing that I'm rumbling somebody else's house. I would prefer not to turn down, but in the absence of better options, that's what I'm going to do.
Resonant frequencies of your neighbours' buildings are your problem. Any little amount that gets across to the neighbour will sound like you are playing outside their window. This is why a HPF can be so helpful, by removing rumble at source.
Don't kid yourself a 12'' speaker can't make plenty of 80hz that travels.
Don't kid yourself a 12'' speaker can't make plenty of 80hz that travels.
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I think you will find roofing felt (even 30 pound) to be essentially transparent to low frequency energy.
This amp makes me not mind practicing with cans. It sounds great through decent "HEAD PHONES"!May I suggest since you're going class D and see the need for an HPF:
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Just a thought...
But it also sounds great at low volumes through a good, efficient cab, which is an unexpected benefit. With the gain cranked, I can get some breakup even with the master barely nudged. I have a cheap crappy wireless so I can check elsewhere in the house and it's barely audible upstairs even when I'm getting tube distortion in the basement. I've never had an amp that could do that! A lot of amps sound great when they are pushed, but this one sounds great at all volumes.
I am fortunate to have a detached home with a basement, and Mrs Thumpenstein is very tolerant, even at times appreciative, so I can usually play at whatever volume I want. Still, hearing is important, so I usually have it at fairly modest levels. A basement with thick poured concrete walls works quite well to keep the neighbors peace!
Good luck on your neighborly quest, @Riff Ranger!
Yep, my WD is my headphone amp, DI, and for a quite practice amp, into my Eden CX110 speaker, it's my mini Walkabout Scout
Depends on how far up the Master goes. I have a similar 200w combo, but with a 15" speaker. I just keep the master way down, and have a volume pedal to keep it pretty quiet. It's working out well and no one is complaining (yet).
Yeah but has already posed as a fan of "music appreciation" And they want a solution. If they leave pretty notes , they dont have much to do with their time. If he asks his neighbors for input odds are he has better chance of keeping the peace as he finds the solution. Sure beats waiting to see who gets mad hiding in the shadowsI dunno, his neighbors may have better things to do than scout for piles of used cinder blocks. I'm thinking the neighbors may be nonplussed with new guy if he goes door to door looking for volunteers for his scouting party!
Exactly this neighbor didnt call the man. And they are embarrassed to complain or a name would be on it. A hey I am trying to be good a neighbor handshake, and hey if this was your note Im sorry lets talk would go miles. Wait and that chance goes away. Even if someone gets you know more about who is the most offended. Side or Front?
Roll it out into the driveway and put out a tip jar
My thought, having a bit of background in acoustics and totally agreeing with everything @agedhorse has said. Nothing you can do to that garage short of tearing it down and re-building it as a sound resistant building will make a difference in that location.
If you have a basement, move your practice there...or build/excavate a basement. Then treat the entire ceiling and any windows or exterior door access areas with sand bags or lead/concrete sheets to add mass which will mitigate (not completely eliminate) the transmission of bass frequencies. You might be able to eliminate the sand/lead/concrete mass if you build a false ceiling for that basement which decouples the transmission of sound using the same construction methods @agedhorse referenced earlier in the thread.
Although none of this seems especially cost-practical, taking this path you can probably get away with moderate bass and drum volumes without bothering neighbors.
Or - turn it down.
If you have a basement, move your practice there...or build/excavate a basement. Then treat the entire ceiling and any windows or exterior door access areas with sand bags or lead/concrete sheets to add mass which will mitigate (not completely eliminate) the transmission of bass frequencies. You might be able to eliminate the sand/lead/concrete mass if you build a false ceiling for that basement which decouples the transmission of sound using the same construction methods @agedhorse referenced earlier in the thread.
Although none of this seems especially cost-practical, taking this path you can probably get away with moderate bass and drum volumes without bothering neighbors.
Or - turn it down.
I only know it's not the people on the far side of the house from the garage (my wife went to high school with the mom in that house, one reason we landed here; they would have just told us). From what I have read in this thread, I could have been rattling houses in any direction over some distance
even though it never seemed super loud in my garage.
My only realistic option is that second one, haha. But hopefully the detailed construction-oriented replies will help somebody with the means to make bass bunkers of their own.
I have used it , it work's great if applied properly the key here is its cheap .
probably not going to use it for a fancy studio build
It's not going to sound proof anything but dollar to effect ratio it would be hard to beat
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I had to go with this, it just sounds like computer speaker volume....not as cool as my tube amp but I like peace with the neighbors.
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I have this! And the guitar version! And the extension cab that bumps it up to 6w! I got them for campfire songs and computer speakers, but they may start seeing more use around the house.I had to go with this, it just sounds like computer speaker volume....not as cool as my tube amp but I like peace with the neighbors.
Blackstar Fly 3 Bass Pack 1x3" 3-watt Bass Combo Amp with Cabinet and Power Supply.
