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POLL: instrument volume knob settings

PLAYING LIVE: Volume knob on your bass all the way up, or somewhere less than that.

  • Usually Wide Open, fully turned up

    Votes: 350 74.3%
  • Usually Somewhere Less than 100%

    Votes: 113 24.0%
  • Usually don't think about it but I do like carrots on the weekend

    Votes: 8 1.7%

  • Total voters
    471
I may be wrong, but I'm under the impression my pickups and output sound the best when wide open, and choking off the output fundamentally transforms the tone in a way I do not like.

For most passive basses, you're correct, but it doesn't have to be that way. Leo made some decisions that worked very well in the 1950's that don't necessarily have to apply today. I wire my basses in parallel, then load them internally (not using the cable as the load), so they sound like a normal bass that's dimed at any volume control setting - doing it that way means I can turn my instruments down, and it doesn't as you say "choke off" the tone. The volume controls on my basses act like volume controls on a stereo - not a combination of volume and tone, like most instruments.

As I play in churches, where we do things like underscoring (playing really quietly behind someone who's talking), I use my volume control much more than most bassists - meaning it's turned down a fair bit of the time. But on a rockin' tune, or the rockin' part of a tune with dynamics (we do alot of those), it's dimed.
 
I play with what my guitarist refers to as "Negative gain". My volume knob just high enough to make a sound. My volume is adjusted by my compressor. I have an MXR ten band EQ with the gain slider at about -6. Straight into the return port on my head. Isn't actually negative of course, but it gets a killer tone.
 
For most passive basses, you're correct, but it doesn't have to be that way. Leo made some decisions that worked very well in the 1950's that don't necessarily have to apply today. I wire my basses in parallel, then load them internally (not using the cable as the load), so they sound like a normal bass that's dimed at any volume control setting - doing it that way means I can turn my instruments down, and it doesn't as you say "choke off" the tone. The volume controls on my basses act like volume controls on a stereo - not a combination of volume and tone, like most instruments.

As I play in churches, where we do things like underscoring (playing really quietly behind someone who's talking), I use my volume control much more than most bassists - meaning it's turned down a fair bit of the time. But on a rockin' tune, or the rockin' part of a tune with dynamics (we do alot of those), it's dimed.

That sounds great, thanks for the info.

Do you have a link to where a bass player can look if they decide to try this mod? It's a wonder more manufacturers aren't already using it.
 
I used to always go wide open, but have learned to sometimes dial back depending on the instrument. I have a pretty aggressive right hand, so with a hot pickup I can overdrive easily. I could also be gentler, but I like the fullness of tone with assertive string attack.
 
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@SLO Surfer your poll is missing "always maxed"
sorry, I thought that’s what “wide open, fully turned up” in the poll meant.

played with a guitarist who used to keep his guitar at less than 100%; we'd get the mix right but over time, he'd use the volume knob on his guitar to make himself louder in the mix, which was not a good thing. So annoying - don't do this
this bugs me a lot, and is why I stick to wide open. It’s also probably why most of those who don’t dime it find they need to keep the extra headroom available? (Other than the tone reasons)
 
I like to keep "a little gas in the tank" for certain moments (and the sound guys seem to forgive me) so I always back a bit off max, even with passive instruments. I rarely roll back the tone knob (again with passive) so there's room for a little high end sacrifice with the volume control. With active instruments (and G&L MFD's, DiMarzio's or other hot passive pickups) it's a little more complicated and bass-specific, but if anything they're even less likely to be wide open.
This is my thinking, too: I always set the volume just a shade below max so if I have a small boost available mid-song if I need it. I only play in hobby bands, so there's no sound guy to take into account, and sometimes one or another guitarist will turn up mid-song and I need to make a quick adjustment to catch up.
 
This is my thinking, too: I always set the volume just a shade below max so if I have a small boost available mid-song if I need it. I only play in hobby bands, so there's no sound guy to take into account, and sometimes one or another guitarist will turn up mid-song and I need to make a quick adjustment to catch up.
Sound guys aren't all ogres - mostly you just need to talk to them about this stuff and prep them in advance. They've never had a beef with me (though I've had a few with them).
 
I haven't fully experimented with my new MIM Jazz with other amps, but with my practice amp, I get a hum when the controls are full on so I roll them both back 10 percent, but I have both front and back pickups dialed in. Tone on all Bass.
 
Depends on the bass, the amp and the context.

W my Fender and Squire J basses - always fully on to the max.
W my Modulus basses - generally Unity Gain - 50%.
I have many gain stages and ways to juice the front end of my amp, including the fact that 3 of my 4 electric basses are active, several of my pedals provide added output mmph (for lack of a better word) and the last thing my signal chain hits before slamming my amp is a Felix by Grace Designs (Preamp) with tons of EQ, Gain and Boost options.