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Poll: There is NO STAGE
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Just another reason I'm going with a tribute band. No more bars! Only bigger stages. I'm so burned out playing small places. I hear the oP's pain.
As much as I would have loved to do that, there were 3 members in that band highly dependent on the revenue from that gig. being the pro that I am, descresion was the better part of valor. And needless to say, that was the last time we played there. Further, our Keybord player eventually became the only booking agent in town, and refused to book his band there, and the guy went belly up shortly after. Of course, this wasback well before streaming music, and a club without a bands was not long.
Not sure what you mean, but the gigs my original band has played in venues that don't have a stage, lights or PA have yielded nothing tangible in terms of progress for the band. That's been my experience. Certainly other people have had other experiences. You know, life and all.
Yes, I know what you said - that’s what I was replying to, specifically the stage part. Correlation is not causation.
Well goshdarnit, you must be right because you got the vocabulary. Guess I better start playing street corners and backyard parties and get over myself 'cause you said so.
I really don't mind if there is no stage to speak of, provided that "under the influence" punters don't get a sudden urge to come up and step all over pedals and stuff like that. That can be extremely frustrating.
I dare say that it's a duty of care on our part to keep them away from the various hazards, and we should be able to do what's necessary to protect them. A polite, albeit swift shove-kick back to the area they are supposed to be in is usually enough
I dare say that it's a duty of care on our part to keep them away from the various hazards, and we should be able to do what's necessary to protect them. A polite, albeit swift shove-kick back to the area they are supposed to be in is usually enough
Who said anything about street corners and backyard parties? Dude - get over yourself. I will repeat myself - whether there is a stage or not is irrelevant. Having the attitude that it matters is a negative self fulfilling prophecy, and IN MY OPINION self-limiting. Do what you want.
I’ll give you an example. I recently went to my friend’s (she produces it) Americana festival with some really big name acts. The night before the festival officially started, there was a VIP party at an old mansion. Some amazing and well known musicians performed for the guests, ON THE FLOOR, after dinner. I guess you wouldn’t take that gig because of how little it would do for your career.
Considering music is not my career and that I've never been involved in a situation like that, I can't really say. Again, in my experience, the gigs I have played with my band that haven't had a stage have uniformly led to nothing good.
Also, why the attitude? Geez.
No stage No problem. Just dont have me get there early waiting for dinner crowd to leave.
Grass, sand... problem.
Grass, sand... problem.
Because your point makes no sense to me (sorry), and I believe you were dismissive of my point because I used “fancy” words before I gave you the “attitude.” Even the comment about the PA or lights - yeah, that’s a hassle and you might want to turn down those gigs (I would) but not because they wouldn’t advance what I want to do, but because of the extra work. I think that some of the best gigs are in circumstances you don’t predict, so no need to create self limiting rules for yourself.
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Some of the best known bassists in the world have played in that room.
They don’t have a stage.
If you need a stage to play music...You might want to question why you play music.
Some of the best known bassists in the world have played in that room.
They don’t have a stage.
If you need a stage to play music...You might want to question why you play music.
EDITED TO REMOVE EXAGGERATION
I've played literally dozens of gigs over the years. I'm no spring chicken, and neither are the other members of my band. We have done our time in dives, in backyards, at poolside, in gyms and other makeshift performance spaces, both collectively and as a unit.
There have been lots of gigs that did have lights and a stage and a PA that were a waste of our time and effort, but as this particular band, we decided after playing some gigs that lacked production (you know the kind: no stage, no lights, no PA, load-in through the front door, the regulars try to shout over you or think you're a jukebox or a cover band, etc...) that we weren't having any fun, our regulars weren't turning out and the music just wasn't working in that environment.
So please, don't discount our actual experience because you have a different perspective. All viewpoints backed up by experience have value.
Besides, think of all those other lucky bands that get to play those gigs that we don't want.
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I’m not discounting your experience. I’m discounting the conclusion you are drawing from that experience.
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William said "All the world's a stage."
Neil said "All the world's indeed a stage" (agreeing with William!)
