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#62
kserg said:
Means nothing, although it was his old friend and a god like human who created that grave, doesn't mean couldn't be wrong. :) As he said "if this makes you god, or does it make you someone else, absolute power corrupting" (or something of that sort). So if this guy wasn't him anymore he could have easily made a mistake.


Good episode, good ideas, too dramatic, the final fight was.
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Sally Kellerman was pretty hot in it, too.
 
#64
kserg said:
Means nothing, although it was his old friend and a god like human who created that grave, doesn't mean couldn't be wrong. :) As he said "if this makes you god, or does it make you someone else, absolute power corrupting" (or something of that sort). So if this guy wasn't him anymore he could have easily made a mistake.

Good episode, good ideas, too dramatic, the final fight was.
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It was the pilot episode. According to just about every source I've seen, they simply didn't have the details worked out yet. Roddenberry had a character named "Rice" in every show he'd previously produced and intended for Kirk's middle name to be Rice.

All the attempts to explain the "R" that came later were simply making excuses to try to explain an apparent mistake, which was in reality no mistake at all. TOS has many inconsistencies, as it was written as a truly episodic series. It wasn't a soap opera like all of the series that followed.

Yes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. But, I don't think it makes you forget your best friend's middle name.
 
#67
soulgeezer said:
Yes, absolute power corrupts absolutely. But, I don't think it makes you forget your best friend's middle name.
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Dude, i forget stuff all the time with out absolute power corruption. :)


Was it a pilot? I thought it was like 3rd or 4th episode...


PS I was just saying it for no reason. There are many inconsistencies in the series, that was first thing i thought about when i say that episode for first time and i stock with that explanation for myself. Which isn't so bad IMO, they could have used it. :)


PSS Said it before and I'll say it again:

soulgeezer said:
Nah, Spock would just give him the nerve pinch, explain to Troi that she was over-emotional, and go play chess with Data.
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Nerve has nothing on Vulcan death grip. :)

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#68
kserg said:
While i love TOS, I think TNG was very well done. I tried compare both, and they are just incomparable.

For a while i thought TOS was far better then TNG, and to extend i still do, but TNG is brilliant nevertheless.
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The first season of TNG was OK. The rest of the series was too much, too deep, too PC, too soap opera. The amount of made-up tech-speak was distracting and the constant philosophizing and exposition of various characters' back stories was just boring.

IMHO, of course.
 
#69
soulgeezer said:
The first season of TNG was OK. The rest of the series was too much, too deep, too PC, too soap opera. The amount of made-up tech-speak was distracting and the constant philosophizing and exposition of various characters' back stories was just boring.

IMHO, of course.
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But while i like TOS for lack of all that stuff, that was the reason i like TNG. It was more philosophical.
 
#72
kserg said:
But while i like TOS for lack of all that stuff, that was the reason i like TNG. It was more philosophical.
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See, I think that's where we probably differ. I found the philosophizing on TNG to be unworthy of a college freshman in a 101 class. It sounded profound, but there was no real depth. It was very pretentious and had no real substance. Maybe if the ideas were more interesting and, more importantly, the discussions were more meaningful, I might have liked it better.
 
#75
Atoz said:
"Where No Man Has Gone Before" was not the pilot (that was "The Cage"). It was however, the first episode made after the pilot, though it was the third episode that actually aired; after 'The Man Trap" and "Charlie X."
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Sorry, bud. "The Cage" was rejected by NBC. Roddenberry shot "Where No Man Has Gone Before" as a second pilot, which was picked up by the network.
 
#78
Atoz said:
Yes... but "The Cage" was the actual pilot. Just because it never aired is irrelevant.
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Again "The Cage" was the first pilot. NBC didn't like it and Roddenberry shot a second pilot. "WNMHGB" is not merely a first episode; it was the pilot for the show in that particular incarnation, which the network liked and picked up.
 

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