Power for amp at outdoor gig

[Richard Martin]

Is this a matter of getting them to shakehands or reprogramming because the new turbo has different characteristics.

I could see the point if reprogramming is required. Hard to see a defense if it's just a matter of getting the new turbo to shake hands.

The issue is getting them to shake hands. And yes, the manufacturers are fighting tooth and nail to avoid being forced to allow non-authorized handshaking. There is a lot of money involved. My wife's Subaru didn't come with remote start, so I got the factory remote start kit and installed it. I bought it from a Subaru dealer in Massachusetts and installed it. Then I had to take the car to my local Subaru dealer to have it "turned on" which took a total of 10 minutes. The charge was $150.

 

[Plain Old Barry]

My wife's Subaru didn't come with remote start, so I got the factory remote start kit and installed it. I bought it from a Subaru dealer in Massachusetts and installed it. Then I had to take the car to my local Subaru dealer to have it "turned on" which took a total of 10 minutes. The charge was $150.

What did you pay for the kit? I was going to do the same with my wife's car, then a local dealer had a $299 special, installed... Oddly enough, the dealership had to send me home overnight with a loaner because THEY couldn't get the computer part right.

I installed her fog lights, puddle lights, foot well lights and a few other do-dads in myself because the dealer labor charge was not to my liking.

 

[Wasnex]

The issue is getting them to shake hands. And yes, the manufacturers are fighting tooth and nail to avoid being forced to allow non-authorized handshaking. There is a lot of money involved. My wife's Subaru didn't come with remote start, so I got the factory remote start kit and installed it. I bought it from a Subaru dealer in Massachusetts and installed it. Then I had to take the car to my local Subaru dealer to have it "turned on" which took a total of 10 minutes. The charge was $150.

Oh I am totally aware of "stealer" gouging practices. My gauge panel failed two times and should have been replaced under a recall. The first time the panel failed entirely and the dealer reprogrammed it instead of replacing it.

Unfortunately I was overseas when the recall came. The gauge was working fine at this time. When I returned from overseas the odometer started switching language and then eventually started glitching and becoming unreadable. Since I was in the military you would think they would cut me some slack, bu the dealer would not go to bat for me when the panel finally failed. The odometer started glitching so you could not read the mileage.

Of course they had to put it on a diagnostic machine. They charge was something like $210. The way they got me in the door is they said its possible the control panel could be reprogrammed so I would not have to pay for an expensive part, etc.

When I got back the report they said the panel had to be replaced and part was something like $450, plus programming, and labor. I think I bought a refuburbished panel for about $120. The report also listed close to $10,000 worth of recommended repairs. Keep in mind this is a 15 year old truck, so I am not really concerned with keeping it in perfect condition. My perception is the $210 diagnostic fee was really to pay them to go through the entire truck with a fine tooth comb rather than to trouble shoot the specific problem I was having.

 

[Richard Martin]

What did you pay for the kit? I was going to do the same with my wife's car, then a local dealer had a $299 special, installed... Oddly enough, the dealership had to send me home overnight with a loaner because THEY couldn't get the computer part right.

I got mine for $260 shipped. The dealer actually sent me 2 of them because the first one got lost in the mail. It's been 6 weeks now and the first one hasn't been seen yet.

 

[2strings2frets]

Wow, I guess I was blessed being charged only $80.00 to get my Honda’s sunroof to open and close. I have since found the codes and procedure on line. My uncle farmed his whole life. He never owned a three point tractor, just used a simple drawbar. As his neighbors cast off old equipment in favor of new and expensive varieties and at times to their financial ruin, he stayed with the old “trip plows” and maintained them with a stick welder, file, grinder and a sledgehammer. Right of repair never was an issue or an expense for him. It seems we have a love affair with electronics much like in the last century engineering and mechanics were supposed to solve all problems. I call it the Titanic Syndrome. I hope another rude awaking doesn’t happen but it probably will.