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Pre CBS Fender Photo Thread
- Thread starter 1SHOT1HIT
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You'll have to forgive me, Like everyone else I live and I learn.
When I first bought this thing I honestly had absolutely zero idea what it was that I had.
and in VA unfortunately there just aren't many options.
Maybe one or two but NOTHING worth while in my area.
So before I joined the forum here GC was the most logical option.
Lesson learned. I learned very quickly that unless it was a typical run of the mill commercially available instrument, their wasn't an overwhelming amount of knowledge flowing around the staff.
Really nice guys but none of them really knew what to tell me.
fwiw, i generally dislike flats and have been using rotosound and dr rounds on my 62 jazz since 2000 so consider that a -1 on the flats
fwiw, i generally dislike flats and have been using rotosound and dr rounds on my 62 jazz since 2000 so consider that a -1 on the flats
I respect your opinion sir. Flats are an acquired taste. I'm a devout round wound fan. Depends on what kind of tone you are after and music you play. I'm old school.
Okay so not to turn this into a strings thread, but this is all very confusing.
If any of you can answer these either post it here or, shoot me a PM.
If any of you guys have experience using several different types of strings, please give me your best opinions on what you think each kind would sound like.
IE;
FLats= Flatwounds tend to sound like ? ?
Rounds= Roundwonds, spend to sound like ? ?
I can't remember the other name recently but others tend to sound Like ? ?
If any of you can answer these either post it here or, shoot me a PM.
If any of you guys have experience using several different types of strings, please give me your best opinions on what you think each kind would sound like.
IE;
FLats= Flatwounds tend to sound like ? ?
Rounds= Roundwonds, spend to sound like ? ?
I can't remember the other name recently but others tend to sound Like ? ?
1Shot1Hit there's lots of posts about strings.
Here's a ton: Strings [BG] - TalkBass Forums
Perhaps we can get back on track?
Davo
Here's a ton: Strings [BG] - TalkBass Forums
Perhaps we can get back on track?
Davo
I'm sorry my fault. I started it. Won't happen again. I'm done.
I wasn't complaining by any means, Just didn't want to scare off any potential posters that would like to share their basses.
BUUUUT!!!! If you feel like your at fault, your more than welcome to make it up by posting more pics of your Bass.
By all means PLEASE feel free to carry on.
I'm gonna try and do some reading on the string thing tonight sometime.
I've put up all the pictures I had. I'm going to re-string and adjust it soon. I'll take some outdoor pictures for you all.
Because thousands and thousands of players want to answer exactly this question - and they feel that they will find it out only by having one in their hands.
And some of them - like me - are lucky ones who find a particular bass which is as magic as promised - renewing the legend again and again...
There is no major difference in the spec of a newer and an older Fender - and there is no guarantee to get a good one among pre-CBS' - furthermore there might be also fantastic ones among AVRIS or even MEX builds. But for some good reason it seems to be easier to find the ONE among pre-CBS' ... even if that costs factor 10 of a newer one. At least.
And in the end all of the lucky pre-CBS owners will continue to praise the outstanding quality of their pearls, won't never part with them again unless they'd get more money out of it than they paid. The story renews itself ...
I love my pre-CBS Jazzies - and they are not for sale
One example: My 64JB CAR, 100% original down to the screws and formerly owned by Greg Rzab, who played this bass on the Buddy Guy tour in late '90s. Greg recently mentioned in an interview with the German mag "Gitarre&Bass" that he sold this bass by big mistake and wanted to get it back... I am proud and happy to own this one - pure fun to play ! It's not in the vault - it's carried out on stage again and again.
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And here is my 63JB - stripped to natural and mistreated with a spray can. otherwise original. Looks as ugly as possible, but the sound and feel of this bass floors me (and everybody else around) whenever I pull it from the stand.
It is not mandatory for a world-class pre-CBS sound to stick on 100% originality...
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It is not mandatory for a world-class pre-CBS sound to stick on 100% originality...
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Yeah re-fins are great value so if you want to enter the pre-CBS world as cheaply as possible this is the way. It's the same instrument and it sounds the same. It's just less collectable. What surprises me is just how many were refinished in the 70's. It wouldn't occur to me to refinish a bass. I wonder why so many were refinished?
Anyways why do we love pre-CBS Fenders? Here's a few reasons:
All of which adds up to some serious lurve in my book.
Cheers
Davo
Anyways why do we love pre-CBS Fenders? Here's a few reasons:
- The wood dries out and some say this improves tone
- The mojo is incredible because they are so old
- The wear is real not faked
- The bass was made before the bean-counters got involved and was more hand made/finished than later Fenders
- The basses tend to be 1-2 lbs lighter than the modern equivalents
- The fingerboard was made from Brazilian Rosewood, which is considered the premier fingerboard material
All of which adds up to some serious lurve in my book.
Cheers
Davo
edgaroviz said:
No there's no real reason, it's all rumors AND gossip, don't buy into the hype, put down the kool aid and back away.
They actually barely sound better than your average First Act music company Bass you can buy at Toys-R-Us/Target/Wal-Mart for under $100
Don't fall victim to the crap you hear out there.
In fact I want to offer my help, I'll tell you what if you happen upon one EVER you send me an email immediately and I'll go ahead and save you from being victimized the way the rest of us followers have.
Be a leader, a free thinker and send it to me. I will accept it and even cover the shipping completely ONLY because I care and don't want to see yet another Pre CBS fan boy out there.
Not to mention the lead , these things are loaded with lead and in reality they're just making all of their owners completely nuts.
Oh and there's radiation and mercury in them too, ridiculously high levels.
So just call me immediately.
I'll protect you.
I'll tell you what I'd even buy you a really nice bass of your choice to replace it.
: )
I'm kidding, my guess would be like a fine wine they've just gotten better with time.
Anything that has the caring touches of being hand built is almost always going to be better than something made by mass production and corner cutting to keep costs down and profits high.
Add in the use of now protected woods such as the Brazilian rosewood used on the fingerboards.
And you get a look and sound that is virtually impossible to match to a "T"
Many I'm sure will & have been close but unless you can build one exactly to spec its just not going to happen.
Maybe there are better out there, or will be, but it will be a tough sound to beat due in part to 50 years of players singing their praises and well they do sound incredible.
With anything else you better believe there's a certain level of over exaggerated hype that comes along with it as well. Just like anything else. However this is mostly hype that is backed up time and time again. So I'm told ; )
I haven't read this thread yet, But I'd think your answer could be found in here pretty easily.
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/fe...70922/?highlight=fender+custom+shop+real+deal
I personally think my vintage 62 blows the FCS out of the water, But that's ONLY because the FCS is still, no more than a figment of my hopes and dreams and imagination.
I will have one but it's going to have to wait a while.
Because thousands and thousands of players want to answer exactly this question - and they feel that they will find it out only by having one in their hands.
And some of them - like me - are lucky ones who find a particular bass which is as magic as promised - renewing the legend again and again...
There is no major difference in the spec of a newer and an older Fender - and there is no guarantee to get a good one among pre-CBS' - furthermore there might be also fantastic ones among AVRIS or even MEX builds. But for some good reason it seems to be easier to find the ONE among pre-CBS' ... even if that costs factor 10 of a newer one. At least.
And in the end all of the lucky pre-CBS owners will continue to praise the outstanding quality of their pearls, won't never part with them again unless they'd get more money out of it than they paid. The story renews itself ...
I love my pre-CBS Jazzies - and they are not for sale
One example: My 64JB CAR, 100% original down to the screws and formerly owned by Greg Rzab, who played this bass on the Buddy Guy tour in late '90s. Greg recently mentioned in an interview with the German mag "Gitarre&Bass" that he sold this bass by big mistake and wanted to get it back... I am proud and happy to own this one - pure fun to play ! It's not in the vault - it's carried out on stage again and again.
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I love the CAR. There's just always something cool about that color.
