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Pro Behringer!

#262
SM HERE

Never copy posting styles. It's not right.

Looking at the schematic won't help.
If you use a chip, you may just go by the manufacturers recommended circuit components. Two companies could have the exact same schematic. And since circuit layout tool are automated, they could have the exact same circuit layout. Custom chips with software, you just can't tell what's copied or not.

You can't copywrite chords, or a chord progression. You can copyright a melody. You can do variation on a theme and pay royalties. All of us copy bass licks.

A couple of local clubs around here stopped music because of ASCAP crack down.

Price of gear has little to do with it's quality and value. Gas prices are way up and the quality isn't any better. Neodymium is up so the driver prices rise, and then unrelated prices of ceramic drivers rise because they can and still be cheaper than Neo. But the drivers aren't any better.

I pass on some Behringer gear because I find features in other gear I want more. I pass on other gear and buy Beheringer because Behringer has the features I want and it's a good value. Curiously, I don't own a Behringer amp. Just never had the features I wanted.

Calaverasgrande is right, Behringer doesn't need defending they are making plenty of money even with boards full of naysayers.
 
#263
I have what is probably the most common amount of "experience" with Behringer. Over the past few years, when I thought I needed a certain type of pedal, and I didn't have much cash, I bought the Behringer version. Without fail, each and every one was a tone sucking, poorly constructed, bad sounding, noisy, turd. I don't make the mistake of cheaping out on pedals anymore. My keyboard player bought a Behringer powered PA cab (a small one, just a 12 and a horn with an internal amp) to use to monitor himself. Within the first hour of the first gig, at a more than reasonable volume, it blew. It's replacement came and is a tinny sounding crackling turd.

So, you guys that want to buy Behringer, that's fine by me. It doesn't effect me one way or another. Those that have got good pieces, congrats to you. Personally, my experience with them has been that you get what you pay for....and that's crap.
 
#271
AdamR said:
I have a behringer tuner,m nice piece $80 for the rack unit.
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im also using the behringer rack tuner although i paid 60$ shipped on amazon. so far I like it its nice that it has 2 channels. I run my wireless receiver into channel 2 and channel 1 has an imput jack on the front so i plug into channel one if i dont want to go wireless. then the tuner has an output that goes into my amp. pretty sweet setup if you ask me.
 
#273
caeman said:
According the thought line by the haters in this thread, all cover bands should be sued out of existence and only original music bands should be allowed. How dare those cover bands make money on someone's hard work.
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According to the fanboys in this thread the U2 tribute band is better than seeing U2 live, so why pay $100 to see U2? Just go to the nightclub to see some guys that look kinda like Edge and Bono and the other two. :p
It will surely be a similar experience.

I see threads like this on teh pro audio forums all the time where some tin ear has discovered that a $100 Art preamp is "Just as good as" those silly Neves everyones one about.
My maxim is this; just because it makes a sound doesnt mean it is making a good sound.
And good enough is not equal to great.
 
#274
In February 2006, the US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) fined Behringer $1M, issuing a Notice of Apparent Liability against Behringer, claiming that 50 of the company's products had not been tested for conducted and radiated emissions limits as required by US law, and noting that Behringer continued to sell the products for a year after being notified.

see also Macke V Behringer,
Roland V Behringer,
DBX V Behringer
Aphex V Behringer
EG
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"Can you tell us about Mr Behringer, who copied your products without licence?
The German Federal Court found him guilty in 1992, he was copying exactly the Type B Aural Exciter, Type D, and then Type F. He copied so exactly those products, same face blade, used the same arguments in his brochures, and so then we started pursuits in 1987. And he put on so many arguments to the Court that it took until 1992 to find him finally guilty. In the meantime, he kept on using and using our technology. Then the next product he copied was the 612, a noise gate, and he copied everything so exactly, but from an earlier version, that he even copied the mistakes we had made! But he was hard to argue we didn't have a patent on the 612, but we went to Court because he had copied our manual, page for page, illustration for illustration. So we could show the Court exactly what he did, and were able to bother him for the copyright. He's an unbelievable thief, and then he says that he developed all this on his own, so people thinks he's a good engineer, but all he is a copyist.
Each product is a copy."

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"Liedel stated that "the Aphex case was mainly about a dispute about Aphex's patent and Uli Behringer's own patent application". That is a lie. The truth is that Behringer copied the Aural Exciter Type B, right down to the circuit board and the manual, and called it the Typ F. The front panel was made to look very similar to our unit. The manual, being so blatant a copy, caused people who bought the Behringer copy to call our distributor in Germany for service. When it became clear to us that Behringer was going to be more than a garage operation, we first sent a legal letter to him demanding that he stop and then filed a patent suit."
 
#275
other than about 100 lawsuits. Geeze. The apologists are worse than the bashers.
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Hardly, this is a pro Behringer thread, it's you loons who have an axe to grind who can't seem to stay out of the thread and feel the need to impose your blatent BS.

100's? Really, you are full of it, that's just plain nonsense. Do you make up all numbers you quote so carelessly?

I think your statement is clearly an example of a little troll trying to create trouble in this thread.

-eSmith.
 
#278
eSmith said:
Hardly, this is a pro Behringer thread, it's you loons who have an axe to grind who can't seem to stay out of the thread and feel the need to impose your blatent BS.

100's? Really, you are full of it, that's just plain nonsense. Do you make up all numbers you quote so carelessly?

I think your statement is clearly an example of a little troll trying to create trouble in this thread.

-eSmith.
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Hyperbole. Look it up if you don't know the meaning of the word.
 
#280
I get the meaning of the word clearly, it is semantics. Tell me exactly, other than it's a softer fuzzier word, how it differs from "Outright liar so long as it makes my point, right or wrong"

If you want to come into the thread and be honest fine but you, in an effort to shove your (obviously incorrect or you wouldn't feel the need to fabricate data) opinions on us, are making up nonsense and that is not a positive contribution to ANY discussion on ANY topic regardless of you preference to use that tactic.

If you have REAL data like Calaverasgrande did then provide it and we can discuss it but making up nonsense is not cool.

-eSmith.
 

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