Pro Behringer!

[IPYF]

I still use a Behringer 1x15 which I have been thrilled to death with. I bought it over 5 years ago for $230AU and it is still in great condition.

I currently use it as my second cab under a Trace 1048H and it provides a nice low frequency response which doesnt get in the way of the punchiness of my Trace.

I think many behringer items serve their purpose ideally. I used to run the 4500 head but after 2 years of weekly use it blew up. I didn't resent it this because it was a cheap option at the time and had gotten a bucket load of use. Also I was unaware about impedence at the time and didnt know that running a Behringer 4x10 and 15 together resulted in a 3 ohm load. This might have had something to do with the exploding.

 

[eSmith]

AntekStalich, What Behringer processors have you tried?

If Behringer sounded like crap your wine analogy would apply but I'm getting very usable tones out of my Vamp pro and fail to see where it fails to be the product it is advertised to be.

You could compair it to sour wine only if it was as unplayable as the sour wine is undrinkable. That isn't the case. The Behringer gear works as advertised.

What processor are you currently using?

-eSmith.

 

[AntekStalich]

I'm using Line6 POD XT Live with all extensions. As I said, the Bass Extension does not meet my needs. So I use solely my G-K MB Fusion for tone creation for bass.

As I also mentioned before, only some L6 models sound adequately for electric quitar. The ones that sound right are worth all the money invested in the gear.

You ask about examples of crappy B equipment? Mixers; I wrote earlier about a XENYX 1204 that broke totally after 2 years of use and about a small XENYX that gives electrical shock. I also have Behringer OD that I'm ashamed to use due to its crappy tone.

Sorry eSmith -- it is your choice what wine you're drinking but it is not my wine.

 

[Berthos]

Who knows maybe they cleaned up their act. The fact is they got rich are still in existence because they had no qualms about stealing other companies designs. Because of Behringer most musical equipment is now made off shore. Is that a good thing? I would rather pay more money knowing that I was keeping Americans employed.

"Because of Behringer most musical equipment is now made off shore". That's one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever heard. Is most clothing and shoes made offshore because of Behringer too? Most consumer electronics made offshore because of Behringer too? I think I need to elaborate or those rhetorical questions might not be understood. Corporations' main interest is in shareholder return. In many, many cases shareholder return can be increased by manufacturing offshore.

Suggestions that Behringer is unethical because they reverse engineer stuff is a joke too. Les Paul invented the electric guitar. Is everyone but him who made an electric guitar since hideously immoral and we should not purchase their products?

I have a ship load of Behringer stuff because it's great quality and sounds great and is realistically priced. It's outrageous the prices some companies charge for a wooden box with a few tubes, resistors and capcitors inside and knobs on the outside of them. I can't think of any Behringer products I've owned that I've had problems with. Besides the Bass stuff listed in my signature block I own a Behringer PA.

Behringer rocks. Especially the Bass V-amp Pro - what a fantastic bit of gear.

Berthos.

 

[mark107]

Old old old lawsuits and they weren't found guilty. Find something new. It's just as easy to say Mackie settled because Behringer was going to counter sue and Mackie knew they didn't have a chance. We'll never Know! There is no public evidence that Behringer stole anything. Innocent until proven guilty. Thank gawd for civilization.

Did you ever SEE the board they copied from Mackie (the old 8-bus one). You couldn't tell them apart, right down to the color of the knobs. How much more proof do you need?

 

[mark107]

I have no moral issues with Behringer. I have moral issues with abusive mark-ups and product elitism, though.

From whom did Behringer steal the design for the Bass V-Amp Pro 10 years ago? Boss and Digitech do not have a similar product. Or Roland.

I also play a fernandes strat-copy looking bass fitted with a Precision and Jazz pups.

Line6. Ever hear of "the Pod"?

 

[dincz]

Line6. Ever hear of "the Pod"?

Vaguely similar cosmetically to the Bass V-Amp Pro, but totally different control-wise. And have you had a look inside or at the schematics?

File under alien abduction, cosmic teapots and the like.

 

[Electricblue]

I have a Behringer Compressor pedal. I got it for 20 pounds five years ago, never had a problem with it. Its not the greatest sounding pedal in the world, but for the price I paid for it, its not bad.

However, I would never get a head or cab from them.

 

[modulusman]

"Because of Behringer most musical equipment is now made off shore". That's one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever heard. Is most clothing and shoes made offshore because of Behringer too? Most consumer electronics made offshore because of Behringer too? I think I need to elaborate or those rhetorical questions might not be understood. Corporations' main interest is in shareholder return. In many, many cases shareholder return can be increased by manufacturing offshore.

Suggestions that Behringer is unethical because they reverse engineer stuff is a joke too. Les Paul invented the electric guitar. Is everyone but him who made an electric guitar since hideously immoral and we should not purchase their products?

I have a ship load of Behringer stuff because it's great quality and sounds great and is realistically priced. It's outrageous the prices some companies charge for a wooden box with a few tubes, resistors and capcitors inside and knobs on the outside of them. I can't think of any Behringer products I've owned that I've had problems with. Besides the Bass stuff listed in my signature block I own a Behringer PA.

Behringer rocks. Especially the Bass V-amp Pro - what a fantastic bit of gear.

Berthos.

I'm sure it sounds wonderful. Maybe someday you will be in a band that makes money and then you can step up to gem sound or Nady.

 

[caeman]

You know what sucks more than Behringer? Boss pedals.

For too long, people have towed the old tired lines about them, gleefully ignoring that they are assembly-line made in some foreign country, with designs have that long since paid for themselves, yet the prices keep going up or stay the same.

And then there is the lack of true bypass. Talk about tone suck! You put more than one or Boss pedals on your chain and you have to add a boost pedal to get back the lost signal.

My first Boss pedal, a DS-1, hissed and popped. What kind of crappy QC is this? I vowed never to buy another pedal from Boss, but I gave their RE-20 a chance. Little did I know that the input knob WAS ALWAYS ACTIVE, even when the pedal was "off"! What sort of ******** engineer thought THAT would be a good idea? If I wanted a boost pedal, I would buy a boost pedal. OFF MEANS OFF!

I really am swearing off Boss pedals forever more. I've been burned twice now by the so-called claims of quality.

 

[Electricblue]

You know what sucks more than Behringer? Boss pedals.

For too long, people have towed the old tired lines about them, gleefully ignoring that they are assembly-line made in some foreign country, with designs have that long since paid for themselves, yet the prices keep going up or stay the same.

And then there is the lack of true bypass. Talk about tone suck! You put more than one or Boss pedals on your chain and you have to add a boost pedal to get back the lost signal.

My first Boss pedal, a DS-1, hissed and popped. What kind of crappy QC is this? I vowed never to buy another pedal from Boss, but I gave their RE-20 a chance. Little did I know that the input knob WAS ALWAYS ACTIVE, even when the pedal was "off"! What sort of ******** engineer thought THAT would be a good idea? If I wanted a boost pedal, I would buy a boost pedal. OFF MEANS OFF!

I really am swearing off Boss pedals forever more. I've been burned twice now by the so-called claims of quality.

Same here, that pedal really does sound like ass. I took it back the very next day.

 

[Mark Olson]

I will say this about Behringer... I like their gear more than Carvin. Carvin is the absolute worst. Behringer in close 2nd.

 

[Bass_Pounder]

I will say this about Behringer... I like their gear more than Carvin. Carvin is the absolute worst. Behringer in close 2nd.

ROFLMAO

Any credibility you may have had just went out the window son

 

[caeman]

ROFLMAO

Any credibility you may have had just went out the window son

Feh. It is all about name dropping and product elitism. I swear by my GK amp and have no interest in an SVT rig. And I prefer my guitar pedals to be hand-made in the USA analog, not some Asian assembly-line made junk. I want my junk to be hand-made with care.

From which pedal did Boss base their compressor pedals?

 

[Munjibunga]

You know what sucks more than Behringer? Boss pedals.

For too long, people have towed the old tired lines about them, gleefully ignoring that they are assembly-line made in some foreign country, with designs have that long since paid for themselves, yet the prices keep going up or stay the same.

And then there is the lack of true bypass. Talk about tone suck! You put more than one or Boss pedals on your chain and you have to add a boost pedal to get back the lost signal.

My first Boss pedal, a DS-1, hissed and popped. What kind of crappy QC is this? I vowed never to buy another pedal from Boss, but I gave their RE-20 a chance. Little did I know that the input knob WAS ALWAYS ACTIVE, even when the pedal was "off"! What sort of ******** engineer thought THAT would be a good idea? If I wanted a boost pedal, I would buy a boost pedal. OFF MEANS OFF!

I really am swearing off Boss pedals forever more. I've been burned twice now by the so-called claims of quality.

It's "toe the line," not "tow the line."

 

[caeman]

I meant tow. As in, you grab the same rope and pull along the same bull-crap the rest of the haters spew, all the while trying to ignore the truth about Boss pedals.

 

[Calaverasgrande]

I dislike Behringer because they exemplify the race to the bottom that has been going on as of late. You know, stuff made for dirt cheap someplace else. Stuff made so cheap that you would be crazy to think about fixing it if it broke. This applies to pretty much every kind of consumer product that you can buy. It is at the point now where I can't even find dishes, towels, flashlights or hardly anything that isn't made in China, 2 for $5.
That's great for the folks that only want cheap, but sometimes you want to spend an extra dollar and get the decently made version that will last. You know, not just good enough, but great?!
The way we are headed it's either the dirt cheap walmart junk or the overpriced Neimann-Marcus bling. Nothing left in the middle.
Hey thats a good metaphor innit?
And yes I have owned a few Behringer rack items that ultimately either blew up for no reason or were removed when it was determined that sound quality was better without them in the loop.



BTW I would say that even starting a "Pro Behringer" thread when you acknowledge that many folks on here are "haters" kinda qualifies as trolling.

 

[seamonkey]

Did you ever SEE the board they copied from Mackie (the old 8-bus one). You couldn't tell them apart, right down to the color of the knobs. How much more proof do you need?

The Judge threw out most all the suit, and Mackie & Behringer settled the rest.

Just because something looks the same doesn't mean it is internally the same. Even if some things internally are the same, it may be the only way to create some circuits. i.e. the chip manufacturer gives out a reference design of external components to use, and they are the best use of the chip.

Whatever happened - the Judge tossed it out, and Behringer and Mackie Settled for the rest. How more do you need? Does your car have a steering wheel and brake pedal - mine does - who copied who?

It's not a court case. Judges rule. Lawyers settle. It's over. Let it go, unless you're the Judge

 

[caeman]

I pray for the day that Behringer buys out Boss.

 

[caeman]

Cal, the way of the world is to reduce the cost of manufacture of pretty much anything that costs money, to maximize profit. Despite the drive by Behringer to provide cost-effective pedals to cash-strapped musicians, the market for hand-made pedal makers doesn't seem to be disappearing. Paul Cochrane's waiting list for TIM and TIMMY pedals seems to get longer and longer every year.

Musicians go through many stages of development, starting with low cost equipment. As they learn, save up money, play paying gigs, they upgrade their equipment until they have a rack or pedal board with bits and pieces of the very best examples of each pedal type.

I pick on Boss because they see them upheld as a standard, yet I think their pedals suck. I am astonished by the people that uphold Boss, and then insult Behringer and Digitech for making pedals in China. Um, have you checked where Boss pedals are made?

In the end, there is room for all of the pedal makers on this planet. What we don't have room for is narrow-minded music bigots who think they are the only expert and their opinion is a law. Not everyone starts out buying $250 hand-made fuzz pedals and a G&L custom strat.