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Professions with the biggest egos that you have observed ?

#101
iamlowsound said:
My one professor says all the time that engineers should get paid more than doctors, because when a doctor screws up, one person dies, when an engineer screws up, hundreds or thousands of people could die. I can see how some think that is being egotistical, IMO it is just being realistic.

lowsound
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if your profesor need an open heart surgery, then he will change his mind ....:hiding:
 
#105
iamlowsound said:
And my professor probably designed the hospital that the surgery would take place in ect and ect.

lowsound
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Certain* engineers design things that will be used by the public (like bridges) that could result in hundreds of deaths, but they design that stuff in the comfort of their own homes and offices. Surgeons operate on actual humans in real time with literal deadlines (if you excuse the pun), and then they have to see the families in person to explain what happened if they mess up. Engineers don't have to deal with that sort of thing. They also don't have to go to school nearly as long as doctors.

Like I said, instead of turning this into a pissing fest you (a general 'you', not you lowsound) should just learn to respect all other professions and remain humble in your own. Personally, if engineering for new things stopped today I would be 100% fine with life the way it is. I would hate it if trash guys stopped what they did for even a month.
 
#106
Lindsay said:
Someone said pilots and I say +1. Particularly older pilots - the 60's and 70's are long gone, guys. Get over it.
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So my father, and all of his friends, that I grew up around, are all arrogant egotistical jerks in your mind?

Interesting. I found them to be the most open, funny, helpful, thoughful people I've ever met. Maybe I don't know what this word "egotistical" means.

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SOMEONE needs to get over it. My money is not on the pilots, frankly.
 
#110
Chef FourString said:
Chefs.
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+10000 to this. I have worked in hospitality for almost 6 years and my fiance has worked in hospitality for almost 10 years and we both agree that head chef's, especially very highly respected head chef's, are ********.

We both worked at Crown Casino in Melbourne where they are willing to hand out half million dollar salaries to the world's best chefs. And with that comes alot of arrogance, they will abuse staff members of the hospitality department whether they work in the kitchen or not and not face consequences, which is usually a big no-no for other staff. The casino is more interested in keeping these head chef's as staff and usually tell victims "Don't worry about it".

Also, fellow venue licencee's that I have met have been overly egotistical . Glad I am not one, I would go out of business if I was.

Edit MAJOR METAL unnecessary language.
 
#111
Rickengeezer said:
Psychologists must make predictions all the time of things that are "objectively verifiable"--predicting risk for suicide, criminal recidivism, disciplinary offenses for police officers, you name it. There are decades of studies indicating which procedures can make these predictions at levels that exceed chance. Certainly, the accuracy rates aren't near 100%, but then again, the rates for engineering don't seem to be perfect, if the Challenger shuttle, the I-35W bridge, or my 1985 Pontiac Fiero are any indication.

Of course, I'm not trying to make you feel dumb....
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+1

I was going to rebut the original claim about psychology, but I was going to choose to go on a tangent about epistemology, validity, statistical inference, etc. But your post said very concisely what I would have taken five large paragraphs to say. :D

...and yes, the Challenger disaster is a prime example of how complete rationality can still lead to a catastrophe. Read about how NASA thought Thiokol's recommendation not to launch below a tempature of 53 degrees was asinine because they didn't have hard data that suggested otherwise. They had all of the hard data they needed with the O-ring failed at launch on that fateful day.
 
#112
jmattbassplaya said:
Like I said, instead of turning this into a pissing fest you (a general 'you', not you lowdound) should just learn to respect all other professions and remain humble in your own.
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This.

In my experience, everyone has a stereotype or schema they hold about professions that they are not in. I've found that most people's jobs are harder they people not involved in those jobs realize.
 
#113
That's an interesting observation on Chef's. Thinking back on it, all of the Churches I worked in had "Chef's" who were quite difficult to deal with. I didn't come away with the sense that it was the work of cooking that put them in this perpetual bad mood but rather years of being treated poorly by Priest's who had come and gone in the time they worked there.
 
#114
Gard said:
So my father, and all of his friends, that I grew up around, are all arrogant egotistical jerks in your mind?

Interesting. I found them to be the most open, funny, helpful, thoughful people I've ever met. Maybe I don't know what this word "egotistical" means.

:rollno:

SOMEONE needs to get over it. My money is not on the pilots, frankly.
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Mmmm, touchy. You may have overreacted there.

I have pilots in my family too and I maintain my position.
 
#116
Gard said:
So my father, and all of his friends, that I grew up around, are all arrogant egotistical jerks in your mind?

Interesting. I found them to be the most open, funny, helpful, thoughful people I've ever met. Maybe I don't know what this word "egotistical" means.

:rollno:

SOMEONE needs to get over it. My money is not on the pilots, frankly.
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I'm with ya Gard. But you would figured that out already. ;)

I am a pilot. I have been in airline business for many years. Pilots are not egotistical. Infantile, perhaps, but not egotistical.

Musicans and actors that have a the slightest success, leap off the deep end for me.
 
#117
bmc said:
I'm with ya Gard. But you would figured that out already. ;)

I am a pilot. I have been in airline business for many years. Pilots are not egotistical. Infantile, perhaps, but not egotistical.

Musicans and actors that have a the slightest success, leap off the deep end for me.
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Infantile...absolutely! :)

The old man always says I may grow old, but I refuse to grow up. Seems pretty consistent with all the stick & rudder guys I've ever met.
 
#118
I like the long standing line about the kid who told his mother than when he grew up he wanted to be a pilot. She said, "Son, you can only be one or the other".

There was a time, back about 15-20 years ago, when pilots considered themselves jet Gods. Deregulation, disappearance of pensions, much lower pay, has wounded that ego big time. This goes back a while, when the airlines used to hire fighter pilots.

I think all arrogant pilots need to be reminded that the first astronaut was a monkey.
 
#119
Sales guys...... or more accurately, Sales Managers. Now, most of them hide it well. But if you get them "off the reservation" and get a couple of drinks into them, it will begin to show.

I'd like to be able to say I'm immune, but the fact is that when I'm having a good month, I can get a bit full of myself.
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