Yeah the standard cable is really thin...which is nice from a pedalboard-space stand point. I honestly think that George L's work best on a board that doesn't change a whole lot...or at least doesn't put stress on the cable where it meets the jack.
Enjoy the benefits of a premium membership!
Upgrade Account
-
TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
Join free Log in
Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.
PYPB 38: When 'a few' just isn't enough...
- Thread starter pantherairsoft
- Start date
Yeah the standard cable is really thin...which is nice from a pedalboard-space stand point. I honestly think that George L's work best on a board that doesn't change a whole lot...or at least doesn't put stress on the cable where it meets the jack.
I think I've finally got everything where I want it...
This started out on a PedalTrain Nano, then a Mini, and then I just gave up and went to the Junior, so I could fit the power supplies down below.
The order is: Tuner -> Phaser -> Deep Fryer -> Envelope Filter -> Micro Thumpinator -> Compressor -> Turbo Tube Screamer -> VT Bass -> Chorus.
The DS9TX has the AnalogMan Silver mod and a Jack DeVille Clickless True-Bypass switch. The chorus has the fixed Deep mod and a mix knob.
I use the Barber Deep Fryer for "Live at Leeds" Entwistle-style `60's overdrive and to fuzz up the envelope filter. The VT Bass is for SVT and B-15 sounds, and I use the Tube Screamer for a little bit of fattening and grit. The Deep Fryer can also do a great tube amp simulation or mild tube grind, but since I play through a really clean Fender tube head, I really didn't need a straight-up "tube emulator," just something to dirty it up a bit.
I played around with the pedal order for quite a few months before settling on the current layout. Although it's not terribly practical, I just love the sound of the phaser (maybe it reminds me of `70's RUSH...). So, after being on and off the board a few times, it's probably back for good. Although I like the chorus at the end of the chain, I think the phaser sounds more organic when placed before all of the other effects...less "effect-y." The envelope filter sounds terrible before dirt, but it also didn't work well after the compressor and the buffers in the Micro Thumpinator and the VT Bass, so I moved it closer to the front, with only true bypass pedals ahead of it.
I originally had the compressor near the end of the chain, but found that the dirt pedals caused a jump in volume when engaged before the compressor, so I moved it as far forward as I could. The compressor is about the only "always-on" pedal, followed by the TS9DX. I usually have the VT Bass set for a very distinct overdriven SVT tone, so it's not something that I leave on constantly. So far, this setup seems to be a good compromise between flexibility and simplicity.
Gut shot:
This started out on a PedalTrain Nano, then a Mini, and then I just gave up and went to the Junior, so I could fit the power supplies down below.
The order is: Tuner -> Phaser -> Deep Fryer -> Envelope Filter -> Micro Thumpinator -> Compressor -> Turbo Tube Screamer -> VT Bass -> Chorus.
The DS9TX has the AnalogMan Silver mod and a Jack DeVille Clickless True-Bypass switch. The chorus has the fixed Deep mod and a mix knob.
I use the Barber Deep Fryer for "Live at Leeds" Entwistle-style `60's overdrive and to fuzz up the envelope filter. The VT Bass is for SVT and B-15 sounds, and I use the Tube Screamer for a little bit of fattening and grit. The Deep Fryer can also do a great tube amp simulation or mild tube grind, but since I play through a really clean Fender tube head, I really didn't need a straight-up "tube emulator," just something to dirty it up a bit.
I played around with the pedal order for quite a few months before settling on the current layout. Although it's not terribly practical, I just love the sound of the phaser (maybe it reminds me of `70's RUSH...). So, after being on and off the board a few times, it's probably back for good. Although I like the chorus at the end of the chain, I think the phaser sounds more organic when placed before all of the other effects...less "effect-y." The envelope filter sounds terrible before dirt, but it also didn't work well after the compressor and the buffers in the Micro Thumpinator and the VT Bass, so I moved it closer to the front, with only true bypass pedals ahead of it.
I originally had the compressor near the end of the chain, but found that the dirt pedals caused a jump in volume when engaged before the compressor, so I moved it as far forward as I could. The compressor is about the only "always-on" pedal, followed by the TS9DX. I usually have the VT Bass set for a very distinct overdriven SVT tone, so it's not something that I leave on constantly. So far, this setup seems to be a good compromise between flexibility and simplicity.
Gut shot:
I really like the Lava cables for a fixed setup (my board above is all Lava cables), especially when space is tight. However, for just tossing a few pedals on the floor, I'd definitely prefer some regular store-bought or home-made soldered cables.
In my experience, there's a sweet spot when assembling the Lavas: Too tight and it can short out. Too loose and it can unscrew and short. I do make sure to test all my cables with a multimeter once they're assembled and before I place them on my board. So far, I haven't had any problems with the Lavas. You can make some very short jumpers and they sound transparent, as far as I can tell.
One nice thing about the Lavas is that the cable is relatively inexpensive and you can reuse the plugs a few times if your setup changes.
Me likes
Always enjoy it when I see something different on a board. Don't recall seeing a Turbo TS around these parts, cool choice !
Thanks! It's been a blast just figuring out what all the Timeline is capable of!
The Thumpinator is mounted with Invalid Link Removed, which is like a super-strong Velcro. I'd originally mounted the Thumpinator by drilling two small holes in the PedalTrain and using two of the Thumpinator's case screws to secure it to the board. Unfortunately, the metal-to-metal contact between the Thumpinator housing and the pedal board caused a ground loop and a bad hum. The Dual Lock provides some insulation and is plenty strong. The cables running to and from the Thumpinator also help keep it in place.
Can you tell I'm sort of:
Me likes
Always enjoy it when I see something different on a board. Don't recall seeing a Turbo TS around these parts, cool choice !
Merci, Bassmike. With all the good tube screamer clones out there, the Ibanez pedals sometimes get overlooked. In an ideal world, the TS9DX would have a blend knob...but that's just the pedal geek in me talking. The Turbo mode lets you keep plenty of low end, even without a blend.
What's the pedal on the right of the EBS?
Agreed, I was satisfied with a TS9DX, sounded great on gtr and bass and the TS9B is also a pretty nice pedal. Something else came along i liked better so it was passed to one of my gtr players.
There are so many choices for OD, distortion and fuzz it can be quite a journey to find the right one and a challenge to stay satisfied once you have it.
- Sep 3, 2003
- 3,312
- 756
- 41
- Disclosures
- Endorsing Artist: Fuzzrocious Pedals
Rawrrbass said:
I rarely get truly jealous of a pic in this thread* but damn I wish that was mine.
*dont get me wrong, there's a lot of cool boards, but I like old big pedals the best still.
