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PYPB 44: ...like Tetris with boxes, wires and cables

Ok, I know this was from a long time ago, and I'm not sure if this is the spot to post this, but I thought I'd ask, since you guys know everything!!

Would any of you fine folks happen to have any idea of the, or an, app or program needed to do this type of diagram?

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I tried to Google it, but I'm either using the wrong search terms or I'm asking for it in the wrong way, because I can't find an answer. I just figured some of the effects users would be just a lil more tech-savvy than the average bear. I'm guessing it's some photo editing stuff, but I'm not sure. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
I've been playing for over 30 years, and have been on here a long time. I'm getting back into pedals, and it seems like people are loving Broughton, and I had never really heard of them.

Also, what is the draw to the high pass and low pass filters?? I'm missing the point of that.

High Pass Filter is very useful for removing subsonic content that causes boominess or muddiness. I find it makes my whole pedalboard sound clearer and more responsive when placed first in the signal chain.

I use Low Pass Filter to remove the highest treble frequencies that accentuate finger noise and pick attack. You can also set the frequency lower to use it as a cab sim.

And yeah, Broughton stuff is great. SV-Pre is maybe my favorite pedal of all time.
 
I've been playing for over 30 years, and have been on here a long time. I'm getting back into pedals, and it seems like people are loving Broughton, and I had never really heard of them.

Also, what is the draw to the high pass and low pass filters?? I'm missing the point of that.
Broughtons are really high quality with low production numbers. Some are referred to as 'unobtanium' on the Broughton Audio Super Thread.

The early bird gets the worm when there's a release coming, as there is no wait list to get on > https://www.broughtonaudio.com/
 
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Ok, I know this was from a long time ago, and I'm not sure if this is the spot to post this, but I thought I'd ask, since you guys know everything!!

Would any of you fine folks happen to have any idea of the, or an, app or program needed to do this type of diagram?

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I tried to Google it, but I'm either using the wrong search terms or I'm asking for it in the wrong way, because I can't find an answer. I just figured some of the effects users would be just a lil more tech-savvy than the average bear. I'm guessing it's some photo editing stuff, but I'm not sure. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
Pretty confident that is from the magazine art department or graphic design team, don't believe there is an app or program for this kind of computer generated graphic yet. There has been a PedalBoardPlanner program offered by PedalTrain for a while now.
 
really interested in Morningstar stuff, what's your midi setup beyond the mc6?

I use the MC6 to control most of my board. I have it running to the HX Effects, then the Source Audio Hub (under the board- controls both SA pedals via 1/8" cables), and finally, the Future Impact. I have the FI and C4 in one effects loop on the HX, and the Manta in the other. I can basically call up anything I need on the HX, as well as choose patches on the other 3, then determine which ones are in the signal via the effects loops. The way I have things set up, I do probably 75% of my effects switching from the MC6, then the rest on the HX (mostly turning effects/loops on/off during specific points of a song.

I have made a few changes since then:
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I use the MC6 to control most of my board. I have it running to the HX Effects, then the Source Audio Hub (under the board- controls both SA pedals via 1/8" cables), and finally, the Future Impact. I have the FI and C4 in one effects loop on the HX, and the Manta in the other. I can basically call up anything I need on the HX, as well as choose patches on the other 3, then determine which ones are in the signal via the effects loops. The way I have things set up, I do probably 75% of my effects switching from the MC6, then the rest on the HX (mostly turning effects/loops on/off during specific points of a song.

I have made a few changes since then:
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Sweet setup. I have an HX and an Aftershock. Looking to probably add another Source Audio pedal. I’ll probably get the hub so I can do some midi presets. Can the HX easily enough control the hub via midi? If possible I’d like to avoid buying a separate midi controller if possible.

Also, I’m a midi newb and have a question about the SA pedals. For all of the models can I save preset versions of each within the app, save them to the pedal and then call them up via midi? For example, I tweak the Rat model to my liking, the Big Muff, the Fuzz Face, plus 8 others with all of the extended settings available in the app. Will all of those extended settings be saved and recalled by midi or just the positions of the physical knobs on the pedal? I thought I read somewhere that the hub only stores positions of the pedal knobs and doesn’t do anything with the other settings on a given model. Despite watching all of the SA videos on YouTube that they demo I haven’t been able to figure things out yet.
 
Ok, I know this was from a long time ago, and I'm not sure if this is the spot to post this, but I thought I'd ask, since you guys know everything!!

Would any of you fine folks happen to have any idea of the, or an, app or program needed to do this type of diagram?

View attachment 3775444

I tried to Google it, but I'm either using the wrong search terms or I'm asking for it in the wrong way, because I can't find an answer. I just figured some of the effects users would be just a lil more tech-savvy than the average bear. I'm guessing it's some photo editing stuff, but I'm not sure. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks!

you'll have to do most of that on your own, or find instructional piece-meal since that's such a comprehensive diagram. specifically for pedalboards arranging there are sites for Pedal Playground but nothing for technical diagrams like that
 
Also, what are people using the Eventide H9's for? Those things are hella expensive.
everything - maybe not dirt and to be honest I prefer my empress compressor... the h9 is excellent for reverbs, pitch shifting and choruses. It can do anything pretty much but one thing at a time which is why you see many boards with multiples. sound quality is second to none.
 
Ok I'm officially done. I replaced the velcro with 2" strips so everything is in place better. I also added a Wampler Mini Ego, which surprisingly I was able to fit on top of the board.

I reconfigged the Qtron to be the only thing going through the blender. Everything else sounds better not going through the loop and I have better control over the Qtron if it's the only thing in it.

I'm using EBS flat patch cables, mostly 4", 11" x 2, and a 22". I love these things.

I also organized underneath a lot better. I got some cable organizers and went to town lol

I have to say it's a lot of effort for a pedal board that I intend on it never leaving the house lol

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AFTER:


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Sweet setup. I have an HX and an Aftershock. Looking to probably add another Source Audio pedal. I’ll probably get the hub so I can do some midi presets. Can the HX easily enough control the hub via midi? If possible I’d like to avoid buying a separate midi controller if possible.

Also, I’m a midi newb and have a question about the SA pedals. For all of the models can I save preset versions of each within the app, save them to the pedal and then call them up via midi? For example, I tweak the Rat model to my liking, the Big Muff, the Fuzz Face, plus 8 others with all of the extended settings available in the app. Will all of those extended settings be saved and recalled by midi or just the positions of the physical knobs on the pedal? I thought I read somewhere that the hub only stores positions of the pedal knobs and doesn’t do anything with the other settings on a given model. Despite watching all of the SA videos on YouTube that they demo I haven’t been able to figure things out yet.

Thanks! I have an Aftershock, but I like the distortions on the HX enough to not need it.

The HX does have MIDI switching capability, but it was limited for my use. I needed to send multiple MIDI signals, depending on the patch... switching presets, turning pedals on or off, controlling the effects loops. The MC6 has many more options. I tried to get the HX to do what I wanted, but couldn't, which is why I got the MC6. For basic MIDI switching, like changing patches, and turning a pedal or effects loop on or off, it's not terrible, and was something of a gateway for me to get crazier.

If you get a Hub, you'll be able to save up to 128 presets per SA pedal. You can have each one be completely unique- any dirt, with any combination of settings, or blending of settings or whatever. With the HX, you can call up any of those settings, whenever you want. If you put either one in an effects loop, then you can insert it into the signal chain of the HX, which allows for effects before and after. The Hub is a great little box that opens up a lot of options.

MIDI can be a little tricky, but it's all about numbers. Most MIDI capable pedals have a list of what number controls what. Get the correct ones dialed in, and everything will work wonderfully.
 
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In the process of moving my home office cum music room, decided to clean up my board and box up everything I'm not actively using, and now facing an ugly realization...

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Korg Pitchblack tuner
Fairfield Accountant compressor
Idiotbox Blower Box distortion
EHX Bass Clone chorus
MXR Script Phase 90 phaser
 
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In the process of moving my home office cum music room, decided to clean up my board and box up everything I'm not actively using, and now facing an ugly realization...

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Korg Pitchblack tuner
Fairfield Accountant compressor
Idiotbox Blower Box distortion
EHX Bass Clone chorus
MXR Script Phase 90 phaser


Time for a Nano+!!!!

Mine just arrived today so I can have a "board to go"!!
 
Ok, I know this was from a long time ago, and I'm not sure if this is the spot to post this, but I thought I'd ask, since you guys know everything!!

Would any of you fine folks happen to have any idea of the, or an, app or program needed to do this type of diagram?

View attachment 3775444

I tried to Google it, but I'm either using the wrong search terms or I'm asking for it in the wrong way, because I can't find an answer. I just figured some of the effects users would be just a lil more tech-savvy than the average bear. I'm guessing it's some photo editing stuff, but I'm not sure. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
They were from a now-defunct site called guitargeek. I used to be a member of their forums.
 
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