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Quality Control issues

So when they "inspect" it do they do anything about missing parts like screws, or even mention it because, they failed to catch this on mine. This one is even missing two screws right now, so I couldn't attest to their "inspection" being any better than any other seller on the market imo. View attachment 7379147
Apparently, the missing screw was the "56th point" and considered an upgrade. Cut 'em a break...they're (Fender) pulling parts from bins and slamming them together as fast as they can.

Riis
 
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Not going down that rabbit hole. On a more positive note, here's a handful that I trust explicitly:

*Turnaround (Richard)
*202dy (Frank)
*walterw (Walter...local tech at Alpha Music!)
*Matt Liebenau
*Bruce Johnson

...and the list goes on with apologies to anyone I've overlooked. I persevere armed with only my HS shop skills and insight gleaned over the past 23 years. To answer the original question, I avoid any tech tagged as "trusted, well-known"...the forum is glutted with requests for assistance / remediation once the damage is done.

Riis
Just wanted to see how you'd respond; agree with your list :)
 
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Just wanted to see how you'd respond; agree with your list :)
I try to be gracious. It does pain me to think of all those folks who are ripping-out their bridges under the misassumption they were incorrectly installed / misaligned at the factory. Overall, I think we've been effective soundly addressing the most commonly-encountered issues but, when weighing the options, always consider the source. Design flaws / deficits / limitations can be challenging, as well...but that's another thread!

Riis
 
Having worked in several stores over the years, I disagree. Inspecting instruments before putting them on display catches most potential issues and gave us time to correct them before a customer would even see them. The inspection and associated setup was a value add that our customers may not have known about, but they always appreciated.

What I’m trying to say is that, let’s say you have a 500-dollar bass. You spend 50-100 dollars worth of employee labor by inspecting and setting up , and you still end up with a 500-dollar bass.

I wouldn’t mind giving a paying customer a free setup once they have purchased the bass though.
 
What I’m trying to say is that, let’s say you have a 500-dollar bass. You spend 50-100 dollars worth of employee labor by inspecting and setting up , and you still end up with a 500-dollar bass.

I wouldn’t mind giving a paying customer a free setup once they have purchased the bass though.
If that bass unboxed in uncomfortable or unplayable condition, a purchase would be less likely.

The stores I worked in were smaller and we were not busy with customers from open to close. UPS deliveries arrived in the morning, shortly after we opened. There were routine chores to be done - cleaning the store and lesson rooms, unpacking deliveries, stocking shelves, sheet music and book management, and so on. As part of stocking the displays, we inspected every instrument we put out. If there were basic issues that needed to be addressed before we added the instrument to the display, we took care of them - acoustic guitar endpin installed, good (not oxidized) strings, reasonable action, neck adjustment if necessary, good battery, instrument tuned, and so on. We received salary whether we sat or worked, so why not give that extra little bit that would help to encourage a purchase? If a customer expressed specific preferences during a purchase, we could decide to include them as a value add or as a charge-for extra. Examples being: flatwound bass strings instead of the supplied rounds, change of string gauge, action adjustment, ... We were not always able to compete with the big box stores and mail order resellers on price, so service had to be a distinguishing factor.
 
Not going down that rabbit hole. On a more positive note, here's a handful that I trust explicitly:

*Turnaround (Richard)
*202dy (Frank)
*walterw (Walter...local tech at Alpha Music!)
*Matt Liebenau
*Bruce Johnson

...and the list goes on with apologies to anyone I've overlooked. I persevere armed with only my HS shop skills and insight gleaned over the past 23 years. To answer the original question, I avoid any tech tagged as "trusted, well-known"...the forum is glutted with requests for assistance / remediation once the damage is done.

Riis
Not familiar with 202dy or walterw, but the other three listed I trust implicitly.
 
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Not familiar with 202dy or walterw, but the other three listed I trust implicitly.
Funny you mentioned Frank (202dy) and Walter. Frank is "extended family" and we loosely go-back ~46 years in western PA. Walter has the best in-store shop in eastern VA...one of the last mom & pop's...and within 15" of my house. He knows pickups, harnesses, preamps inside & out.

Riis
 
Funny you mentioned Frank (202dy) and Walter. Frank is "extended family" and we loosely go-back ~46 years in western PA. Walter has the best in-store shop in eastern VA...one of the last mom & pop's...and within 15" of my house. He knows pickups, harnesses, preamps inside & out.

Riis
I may want to follow up with you RE Walter; I've got some wonky-wired basses that my local guys seem unable to sort out. I am not averse to shipping a bass out-of-state for repairs, particularly if they are repairs necessary to make to make the bass sellable. Where in eastern VA is his shop?
 
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As a postscript to my reply above I will say that most of the basses I have bought online are vintage and decades old already when I bought them. They have histories, and I expect them to show their life scars, so I am not surprised to find flaws/damage of varying degrees. I go into these purchases with my eyes open and expect to find things that need to be corrected.

Or, as the poet A. E. Housman once wrote, "Luck's a chance but trouble's sure."
 
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I may want to follow up with you RE Walter; I've got some wonky-wired basses that my local guys seem unable to sort out. I am not averse to shipping a bass out-of-state for repairs, particularly if they are repairs necessary to make to make the bass sellable. Where in eastern VA is his shop?

He's here in Virginia Beach.


Goes by "walterw"...I don't think he'd object if you contact him via PM first for guidance. Tell him Riis sent ya!
 
Funny you mentioned Frank (202dy) and Walter. Frank is "extended family" and we loosely go-back ~46 years in western PA. Walter has the best in-store shop in eastern VA...one of the last mom & pop's...and within 15" of my house. He knows pickups, harnesses, preamps inside & out.

Riis


Within 15”? Walter’s shop is in your front yard? Your house is in his parking lot? We need details!
 
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I purchased a Steinberger five string last summer. The neck was twisted and two of the tuners were no good. I needed pliers to turn them. I returned it and purchased another one from a different dealer. This one had sharp unfinished frets so I returned it. I now have an Ibanez SRH505f that is eating batteries like candy. I bought it last Sept and the original battery died within two weeks. I figured maybe it was a weak battery to begin with so I replaced it with a Duracell. That one lasted just over three weeks. I just put another Duracell in and made an appointment with a luthier who specializes in electronic problems. I am hoping it's just a bad jack or something simple. If not then it goes back. Three basses in a row, different brands, all with QC problems. I hope this isn't the beginning of a trend.:meh:
Not trying to be a dick, but are you unplugging your cord. I’m typically on top of these things but I never knew keeping the cord plugged in completes the circuit for the onboard preamp and leaving it plugged in will drain the battery.
 
I've worked as an electronics tech for over five decades. In recent years something has changed with Duracell batteries such that I no longer use them. I've had instruments come in for repair when the whole problem has been a bad batch of Duracells. At the least, they do not last. At their worst, they leak and damage whatever they are installed in. If you can find them, get Varta batteries (marketed toward the photographic industry) - in my experience they outlast and outperform all others. If you cannot find Varta batteries, my recommendation is for Energizers.
+1 on this. I've had numerous leaks from Duracells and never a problem with Energizers.
 
If I'm looking to purchase a bass at GC, I take a few key tools with me.
Wow, they allow you to touch their basses with tools? At the GCs I've been in in L.A., they don't even allow you to touch any of the basses you would actually want to buy. They hang those way out of human reach. All the other, crappy basses are sitting there and they ignore you and the bass room, so you could even change strings on those if you wished.