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Question about pedals..

The PA is a Bose with the small speakers that plug in and sit on top of the subs. I think the PA is capable enough…
Capable enough… no.

I’ve played through one of these - probably a smaller one than what your guys have. I swore I never would again. I’m convinced they’re adequate for a couple of guitars and maybe some v-drums, assuming nobody needs to hear a kick.

I went to their website, and they don’t provide specs other than what size room it’s designed for, measured in terms of people, eg. 1000. So who knows what’s in them?

I’m very skeptical of their ability to deliver low freqs for a full room of 100 people, let alone 1000. If they were, wouldn’t the clubs with pro sound installations be using them?
 
Thanks again for the suggestions; here's some more info about our setup.

The PA is a Bose with the small speakers that plug in and sit on top of the subs. I think the PA is capable enough, and my best approach is to either use a small bass amp with a line out to the Yamaha MG20 board, or follow the diagram in the Yamaha manual that shows a DI between the bass and the board. Their diagram shows that a guitar can plug directly into the board, but they recommend a DI when a bass goes through the board.

I already have a DI that I have never used, so I'm going to try both the small amp and DI and go from there. We play again in three days, so I'll report back after that gig.

Thanks again for your interest and input.

Thump on,

One_Dude
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Thanks again for the suggestions; here's some more info about our setup.

The PA is a Bose with the small speakers that plug in and sit on top of the subs. I think the PA is capable enough, and my best approach is to either use a small bass amp with a line out to the Yamaha MG20 board, or follow the diagram in the Yamaha manual that shows a DI between the bass and the board. Their diagram shows that a guitar can plug directly into the board, but they recommend a DI when a bass goes through the board.

I already have a DI that I have never used, so I'm going to try both the small amp and DI and go from there. We play again in three days, so I'll report back after that gig.

Thanks again for your interest and input.

Thump on,

One_Dude

I could be mistaken, but I thought a key selling point of those compact Bose PAs was their ability to be positioned behind the band to double as monitors.
 
I recall that as well, from a Bose PA advert from LONG ago — PA behind the band.


It's a great concept, and it did seem a good idea to me at the time, which was before I started gigging.

Now the idea seems to me like using a motorcycle (cheap and efficient to run/service/gas-up etc)...
... to haul wet-concrete — it's possible, but...


And I'm by no means a seasoned gigging veteran, just a few years.

Haven't used IEMs, just DI with monitor wedges or backline amps (rarely ever had to haul my own amp to a gig) and ALL THAT was always a struggle to get adequate monitoring-balance. I can't even imagine playing a gig while relying on the PA to bounce off the back wall of the venue.
 
I recall that as well, from a Bose PA advert from LONG ago — PA behind the band.


It's a great concept, and it did seem a good idea to me at the time, which was before I started gigging.

Now the idea seems to me like using a motorcycle (cheap and efficient to run/service/gas-up etc)...
... to haul wet-concrete — it's possible, but...


And I'm by no means a seasoned gigging veteran, just a few years.

Haven't used IEMs, just DI with monitor wedges or backline amps (rarely ever had to haul my own amp to a gig) and ALL THAT was always a struggle to get adequate monitoring-balance. I can't even imagine playing a gig while relying on the PA to bounce off the back wall of the venue.
Love the wet concrete and motorcycle analogy, it’s perfect.
 
The Bose is fine, you just need a preamp and you really need something to monitor, either IEM or a floor monitor, whichever suits you best. If floor space is an issue, I think it is maybe PJB that makes this earbox thing that is small and will sit right next to you and direct toward your ear. I can't imagine something that small would sound really great, but if you just need to monitor and only care about what is out front, could be a good solution.

It was PJB.

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OK, here's a report from today's gig. I connected my DI between my bass and the Yamaha board; wow, what a difference. Nice tight bass tone with no booming and no strange noises coming out of the PA.

We play small rooms, so the audience is usually fewer than 50 people, and of course the acoustics are different for each venue. I have played bass for 40 some years, but never through the PA ; I always used a bass amp. I also play guitar and mandolin, and that's what I originally played in this band. There were seven band members for a number of years, and the BL pulled the plug on the band with no notice; cancelled all our gigs and said he was done. Two other band members decided to take a break and the remaining four of us decided to continue with much of the same material under a new name.

So we were a female singer, an acoustic/electric guitar player, a bass player, and me on guitar and mandolin. Our bass player passed away a few months back, so now there's three of us. That switched me to guitar and bass, depending on the song. I also do most of the lead singing. The bass player we lost always played his acoustic/electric bass that probably had a built in preamp, and therefore had no trouble plugging straight into the board. I play a straight electric bass and that was the difference; I need the DI.

So thanks again for your suggestions and for helping figure this one out.

Thump on,

One_Dude
 
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