Quilter Bass Block

[bdplaid]

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[J_Bass]

Well, I am still gonna buy one. That EQ is like someone was reading my mind. I hate complex EQ.

 

[peteratquilter]

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Thanks! That must be a typo. There are no plans for a 2x12 wedge, but the 2x10 wedge was in the both.

As for new stuff, we've also got something in the works so cue further cryptic "they're up to something" feelings.

I have no idea when the next bass thing will be out. The Bass Block 800 took around 3 years to develop. It was started long before I started working here and several revisions we thought were done were scrapped in the process. Whatever comes out next will be ready when it is ready and even we will be surprised when we decide whatever it is is finally done.

 

[Hypercaffium]

Thanks @peteratquilter for clarifying.
To all the other guys here, I'm gonna say I'm really sorry. It wasn't my intention to be arrogant or pretentious, I just expressed my point in a bad way and even if I didn't want to start anything, I did.
Since I'm a cool guy, I'm gonna apologize.
Sorry again, I love you guys and I love TB. And I love my BB800.

 

[TrevorOfDoom]

Cabs are the bane of every amplifier manufacturer's existence. Putting tolex on is skilled labor that takes time and is expected in this traditional market. It costs a ton of money to have done and essentially adds no perceived value. Double whammy!

I'm sure you've looked into this, but I'll throw it out just in case.
Have you looked into Duratex, or whatever that industrial truck bedliner stuff is? Makes a rugged finish, and a spray booth/assembly line would be more efficient than tolex appliers.
I could be wrong, though.

Again, thanks for responding, and thanks for making a killer amp!

 

[svtb15]

Well to be accurate ... We have been in a TRADE WAR for 50 years. It's only now that the we have decided to fight back in that trade war and not just roll over and take it where the sun doesn't shine. .
From all stats that i have read recently. China is in bad shape. And will and have been seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. It will work out in the end for us. But you have to be patient. Everyone wants it all right NOW. The McDonalds generation of gimmy gimmy gimmy. ughhhh

We raised our prices because we had to. I am probably going to regret posting this, and I hate to make this about politics, but politics are having an effect on our business. I am posting this to correct the misinformation earlier in this thread. Also, please don’t let this divulge into what we should do about China. I am posting this give you some insight on what all of your favorite US manufacturers are trying to figure out right now. This is going to be a controversial statement, but from our perspective the trade war we are in with China is hurting our US manufacturing way more than our Chinese manufacturing.

We are a US based manufacturer that sources the best components we can buy. As someone else pointed out, electronic components are almost exclusively manufactured in China these days. We live in a global economy and everything has a supply chain that is several steps from raw materials. You have things like our cardboard boxes that are made in Los Angeles but the raw materials come from China. Our knobs are like that too. They are injection molded in Orange County but the plastic beads and dye probably aren’t made here, we have no idea where but the cost went up. Think about how many companies components get passed between before they end up in a finished good. Everyone from the importer and on just got faced with a cost increase and a higher inventory balance sheet. No one wants to make less money so that just gets passed onto the next company and ultimately the consumer.

For example, electronics had a tariff at 2.5% whether they were raw materials or a completed assembly. That went up to 12.5% in October and threatened to go up to 27.5% in January. As you might know, the January bump is in the middle of a 90 day hold right now but who's to say where it will be once those 90 days are up? There is no talk of the 12.5% going back down. That’s just the electronic components. Covers are up way more than 27.5%. Almost everything we buy just got more expensive. How do you plan for having no idea what your parts are going to cost?

Compare that to if we just made the whole product out of the same spec parts in China. The Chinese factory buys everything locally without an inflated cost and then we buy it directly from them and pay one tariff on whatever harmonized code the finished good is sold under.

Let me be clear though, there are no plans to move Bass Block 800 production to China. The Bass Block is our best seller and we regularly have more batches made at QSC. We are trying to figure this out.

PS. Just a pet peeve of mine, but is your amplifier really US made if you use an ICEpower module? Literally the amp part isn’t made in the US.

 

[bdplaid]

Cabs are the bane of every amplifier manufacturer's existence. Putting tolex on is skilled labor that takes time and is expected in this traditional market. It costs a ton of money to have done and essentially adds no perceived value. Double whammy!

And tolex is the bane of every musician as it tears and looks like crap very easily! I rather think the market (us guys here at least) would be open to something different on the cabs. I mean, look at that BB800 EQ, fercrissakes!

 

[redstrand]

And tolex is the bane of every musician as it tears and looks like crap very easily! I rather think the market (us guys here at least) would be open to something different on the cabs. I mean, look at that BB800 EQ, fercrissakes!

Don't get me started on rat fur

 

[svtb15]

I dont mind ratfur.. Velcro sticks to it and it can be handy at times.

 

[J_Bass]

Thanks @peteratquilter for clarifying.
To all the other guys here, I'm gonna say I'm really sorry. It wasn't my intention to be arrogant or pretentious, I just expressed my point in a bad way and even if I didn't want to start anything, I did.
Since I'm a cool guy, I'm gonna apologize.
Sorry again, I love you guys and I love TB. And I love my BB800.

That was cool.

 

[CharlieC]

I share this not as a thread hi-jack, but for discussion as to the concept of this product.

Orange's new Pedal Baby 100 is marketed exactly as how I use the BB800, i.e. a power block for pedals with simple EQ for fine tuning.

Quilter again for the win!

 

[Chef]

Howdy kids:
Tread carefully with the us/china stuff. often that descends into a space where it gets moderated. I think some of that is valid discussion, but don't deep end it to where we have to moderate it. thanks.

 

[barrabajazz]

I bought mine from Thomann for 499 euros, now it's listed 555 euros.
As much as I love this amp, I don't like the raised price. Not at all. I've done some research and the product is exactly the same. No reason to charge more, in my opinion.
So... take my "boo!" as snarky.

Sometimes, in Thomann B-stock you find them for 490 euros.

 

[redstrand]

The deepness going through my Ampeg 2x12 is fantastic, been getting reacquainted with my Ampeg 15 which just thunders. The 15 likes the contour better than the 2x12. I'm thinking about getting a third cab of some sort, a 4x10 would be obvious...I'll have fun looking around

 

[sonofshel]

Glad to see the BB800 isn’t going to be Chinese made. I was nervous for a sec seeing some of the past conversations. It didn’t work for Gallien Krueger, and I had some great GK amps in the past,but saw what happened when they moved it all overseas. They had to finally bring it back home because QC was so whack.
In the early 2000s, I bought a brand new Aguilar DB750. I had lusted after this amp for awhile and discovered that they were about to jump the price up $1000. I found one locally at a friend’s music store and he gave me a great deal (I mean, really great!). I never mentioned to him that I was aware of the impending price increase because I was out to score that amp brand new and you just don’t mention some things during negotiations. Anyways, I stopped by the store a month or so after my purchase, and the owner told me that it costs him more than I paid for the amp to get another one back in his stock/store.
A $50 increase is nothing compared to the $1000 increase that Aguilar did on that amp. Thankful I got lucky that day because I used the amp for years and sold it and made a nice profit. I used to be lucky like that; not so much anymore

 

[bass4u]

The $50 price increase is what I spend easily on a Saturday night at the bar.....

Also, thumbs up for Duratex!

 

[TrevorOfDoom]

As to the wonderful sound of the amp:
I've had to rent a different amp since mine's having technical difficulties, and I decided that I'd test drive a Fender Rumble 500.
A fine amp, many knobs to turn and tones to find.

But I hate it.
It sounds so uneven with its baked-in tone.
And every soundguy that I've worked with before has communicated that.
Uneven is the best way to describe pretty much any amp other than Quilter (or other frequency flat amps).
I hate it.
I want my Quilter back.
I may just have to buy another one for backup.

How do I talk my wife into that?

 

[bdplaid]

How do I talk my wife into that?

Ask if she can only buy one earring, or are they always a set.

 

[ahbass2500]

How do I talk my wife into that?

Tell her you are buying one before the price increase hits (I have seen at least one retailer still at $599)? Add to that the money saved by not renting an amp and you would be crazy not to get a second one.

 

[TrevorOfDoom]

Ask if she can only buy one earring, or are they always a set.

Tell her you are buying one before the price increase hits (I have seen at least one retailer still at $599)? Add to that the money saved by not renting an amp and you would be crazy not to get a second one.

I like the way you two think...