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Quilter Bass Block

#861
J.Wolf said:
I'm pretty darn impressed with the Quilter, and I'm pickier than I like to admit. Great power delivery and even though the EQ controls are unique and somewhat limited, they cover a lot of ground. I find I have to run the gain lower to not get too much limiting happening. I figured that out after this pic was taken :) . If I dime the master, and use the gain as a volume control I get a lot more slam out of it. Very nice overall, especially given the price.


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Do your basses have a fairly hot output?
 
#862
Brad Johnson said:
Most of my basses are pretty hot and my cab is efficient so having both gains around noon = cranking for me. The Master thing is an annoyance for me... I can easily work through it.
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I can dig that.
I normally play a fEarful 12/6 so I'm all about the clean headroom.
But the dayjob has me running a friggin' stack that's "never loud enough" so I have to crank the master (and the gain) : /
 
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I was able to gig with the 1x12 bottom cab and 2x10 wedge on top (with the BB800 secured in back), and this rig performed very well. With the two cabs, the controls on the BB800 are placed at a very convenient level. It was a smaller venue, and the bass was not in the PA. The rig easily carried the room, with plenty of headroom left. :thumbsup:
 
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#869
John D Harris said:
Whatever works.
Seems like a lot of users do just the opposite.
Should we do a poll?
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what do you mean? That they set the gain where they want it and use the master for volume, as opposed to diming the master and getting volume by adding in input gain? That was the preamp/poweramp gain staging model from back in the day, but I never felt the need to use that model with a class D had before. It just seems to work better on the quilter for getting the most open and transparent sound.
 
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J.Wolf said:
what do you mean? That they set the gain where they want it and use the master for volume, as opposed to diming the master and getting volume by adding in input gain? That was the preamp/poweramp gain staging model from back in the day, but I never felt the need to use that model with a class D had before. It just seems to work better on the quilter for getting the most open and transparent sound.
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Yes - just the opposite from your approach.
Maybe they are seeking a gruntier tone - I'm looking forward to trying one out if they make some of the suggested changes, to see what the tonal effect is between the two approaches!
 
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#872
seang15 said:
Hey folks, very intrigued by this amp.

I would plan on running it in 2ohm. Is anybody doing this; and if so, mind sharing your experiences? Thanks!

Note: there's a disclaimer somewhere stating that, generally, "clipping may occur at higher volumes when running in 2ohm," or similar statement.

Thanks!
/ Sean
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I wouldn't... a caveat like that tells me that there's a line that I could cross on a gig that could cause my rig to shutdown. Very high on my list of risks I avoid gigwise.

The idea that I'm going to use two 4 ohm cabs but keep my volume down to a safe level is foreign to me.
;)
 
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J.Wolf said:
what do you mean? That they set the gain where they want it and use the master for volume, as opposed to diming the master and getting volume by adding in input gain? That was the preamp/poweramp gain staging model from back in the day, but I never felt the need to use that model with a class D had before. It just seems to work better on the quilter for getting the most open and transparent sound.
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I do this. I prefer a little edge but your method will provide the most headroom. Depends on what you want/need for the magic you're making
 
#874
seang15 said:
Hey folks, very intrigued by this amp.

I would plan on running it in 2ohm. Is anybody doing this; and if so, mind sharing your experiences? Thanks!

Note: there's a disclaimer somewhere stating that, generally, "clipping may occur at higher volumes when running in 2ohm," or similar statement.

Thanks!
/ Sean
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I've cranked it up at 2.67 with three 8 ohm loads. didn't flinch. Have not tried it at 2 though
 
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#875
Stu_Bass said:
I do this. I prefer a little edge but your method will provide the most headroom. Depends on what you want/need for the magic you're making
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It definitely fills out the tone/heft, the more front end gain you use! I like it with my P bass, but my Skjold seems to really like the other (crank the master and nudge up the gain).
 
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J.Wolf said:
It definitely fills out the tone/heft, the more front end gain you use! I like it with my P bass, but my Skjold seems to really like the other (crank the master and nudge up the gain).
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There is definitely some significant voicing variations when you play with the pre and post. I was following the Pat Quilter model of setting the post to match the speaker load then bringing up the gain to taste.

But I noticed I can nail my thick, juicy dream tone by rolling the post back slightly and goosing the gain a tad.

If you own one of these bad boys, you owe it to yourself to 'speriment with it, don't just dime one knob and fiddle with the other like you'd normally do, get in there and start tweaking. I promise you won't break it and you might just hit new tonal territory!
 
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BigEarl said:
There is definitely some significant voicing variations when you play with the pre and post. I was following the Pat Quilter model of setting the post to match the speaker load then bringing up the gain to taste.

But I noticed I can nail my thick, juicy dream tone by rolling the post back slightly and goosing the gain a tad.

If you own one of these bad boys, you owe it to yourself to 'speriment with it, don't just dime one knob and fiddle with the other like you'd normally do, get in there and start tweaking. I promise you won't break it and you might just hit new tonal territory!
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for sure. I guess I never actually "dime" the master, i just run it generally pretty high, and dial in the gain to taste. 'Sperimentation is key :)
 
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#879
I have now tried it at rehearsal with two different bands. One is a doom band where I play very distorted/fuzzed stuff with loads of effects. The other is a thrash metal band where I plug straight into the amp and want a clean tone. The BB800 delivers. I used to use an Ampeg V4BH, but I was pushing that way into overdrive and things were getting too mushy. Now I have oodles of headroom and the clean sound is thick and very detailed. Sort of Ampegy, before the V4BH breaks up. In the doom band the fuzz and the effects come through very clearly and everything is audible and the same goes for the faster band where I play clean: the bass just comes forth so nicely without getting in the way of the guitars, yet very audible and clear.

I am so happy with mine. Next gig is in 2 weeks, we'll see what else besides carrying changes. :)

Maybe Quilter will make an even more "boingy" version next. I want both. :)
 
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