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Quilter Labs InterBass!

#381
It depends on how much money you want to spend & how light you want to be. A pair of Barefaced One10s is the bees knees with the Interbass or any small head, but any good 112 should do. Beyond that, hauling more cab than the Interbass can push to capacity starts becoming silly. It'd make more sense to have a more powerful amp with a 112 than to sit the Interbass on top of a 210, 115 etc. Just my .02.
 
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Thanks everyone for your input. I've narrowed down my current search to these two: RevSound RS110 and Barefaced One 10. Thinking is that for now, playing without a drummer or electric guitars at only at small gigs, one of these will suffice but also be a good building block to add another of the same cab and more powerful head down the road if needed.

RevSound RS110
Sensitivity: 98db AES 1 watt/1 meter 121.6db @ 300 watts/ 1 meter
Frequency response: 45-4500hz

Barefaced One 10
Max Output ~119dB
Frequency Range 30Hz - 6kHz

Regarding the efficiency/sensitivity, is the 119dB on the Barefaced just the second component of the "98db AES 1 watt/1 meter 121.6db @ 300 watts/ 1 meter" the Rev? I.e. did they just include the high end # at max watts? Or is this something else?

Trying to make an apples to apples comparison on specs. But more importantly, if anyone has played both of these, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how they are different/same.
 
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mikeynets said:
Thanks everyone for your input. I've narrowed down my current search to these two: RevSound RS110 and Barefaced One 10. Thinking is that for now, playing without a drummer or electric guitars at only at small gigs, one of these will suffice but also be a good building block to add another of the same cab and more powerful head down the road if needed.

RevSound RS110
Sensitivity: 98db AES 1 watt/1 meter 121.6db @ 300 watts/ 1 meter
Frequency response: 45-4500hz

Barefaced One 10
Max Output ~119dB
Frequency Range 30Hz - 6kHz

Regarding the efficiency/sensitivity, is the 119dB on the Barefaced just the second component of the "98db AES 1 watt/1 meter 121.6db @ 300 watts/ 1 meter" the Rev? I.e. did they just include the high end # at max watts? Or is this something else?

Trying to make an apples to apples comparison on specs. But more importantly, if anyone has played both of these, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how they are different/same.
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The Interbass's product page says it outputs 45 Watts at 4 Ohm, 33 W at 8 Ohm. You really don't have to worry about the max power capacity for either of these speakers.

The One10 is an 8 Ohm speaker, the RS100 is available with either a 4 or 8 Ohm rating.

The One10's product page says: "Broadband sensitivity 95dB", which I assume is measured at 1 Watt/1 meter, since that's the convention. But you can contact them and ask.

So the hypothetical maximum volume you can get out of the One10 is 113 dB. The hypothetical maximum volume you can get out of the RS110 is either 116 dB (at 8 Ohm) or 117.3 dB* (at 4 Ohm), assuming both versions have identical efficiency and sound signatures.

So they're fairly close, when compared by these relatively minimal specs; the RevSound should be perceptibly louder. The 4 Ohm RS110 will be slightly louder than the 8 Ohm version but probably not by enough to notice. The downside with the 4 Ohm RS110 is you won't be able to use two of them; the InterBass is only rated for loads of 4 Ohm or greater.

The other thing to factor is how each of them sound. The Barefaced has a low-frequency response (the point where the signal has dropped at least [something] dB below average volume)** of around 30 Hz, the RevSound around 45 Hz. So the One10 might be a little quieter but it might also sound louder at lower frequencies, albeit probably not enough to matter unless your bass has a low B string.

*(Calculated by dead reckoning, probably off by a point or two.)
**(This is an important but also pretty fraught measurement for bass players. Neither manufacturer says what the dB level cutoff is with their frequency ranges, so I'm making some pretty broad assumptions here.)
 
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#389
Just another testimonial:

I ve mentioned before about just using the Interbass for gigs, but tonight I noticed how big my sound was and looked at my settings... master /gain at 9:30ish! So much room to grow and with the Interbass FR/Vin switch along with a HXS, the possibilities are countless. I just settled on a Nano board for everything (powered by a DC7) and had its maiden voyage tonight for a concert thru a AI DoubleShot.

Very happy...
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#390
I got my Interbass and have been experimenting with all the settings while playing my EAB and Fender P. at home through headphones. I've found a bunch of usable tones for the style of music I'm playing lately. Now I'm really itching to hear it through something else!

I've got my eye out for a small cab, but in the meantime, I'd like to play through the small PA my band has. The mixer has both XLR and 1/4" line level inputs — which is preferable? And any advice on using/buying a TRS/TRS cable with an XLR adaptor or TRS/XLR?

Thanks in advance for helping out this noob!
 
#392
So I got that Barefaced One10 a while back and it's been great. Coupled with the IB, it's a very solid little rig for home practice and playing with my acoustic group. I'm now considering getting another One10 and a Jay Ganz Straight Ahead power amp for a different situation playing with a drummer and electric guitar.

I emailed with Jay and he said his power amp needs a pre with 20db gain. I can't find that spec anywhere for the IB — or most other preamps for that matter. I'm pretty sure I read the active/passive switch on the IB is a 10db pad — but is that from zero? Is there a formula for figuring out what db gain a pre has based on other specs?

I also have a Source Audio Zio Bass incoming. I know it's new, but wondering if any of you have experience with that and the IB together. FWIW the Zio has +16db gain.
 
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mikeynets said:
So I got that Barefaced One10 a while back and it's been great. Coupled with the IB, it's a very solid little rig for home practice and playing with my acoustic group. I'm now considering getting another One10 and a Jay Ganz Straight Ahead power amp for a different situation playing with a drummer and electric guitar.

I emailed with Jay and he said his power amp needs a pre with 20db gain. I can't find that spec anywhere for the IB — or most other preamps for that matter. I'm pretty sure I read the active/passive switch on the IB is a 10db pad — but is that from zero? Is there a formula for figuring out what db gain a pre has based on other specs?

I also have a Source Audio Zio Bass incoming. I know it's new, but wondering if any of you have experience with that and the IB together. FWIW the Zio has +16db gain.
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If you email Quilter customer service, Pat will get back to you pretty quick and answer any questions you have.
That's one of the amazing things about Quilter,
 
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It's been a while since I've checked into this thread, but, for several years now I have been using the Interbass as my regular gigging amp with my 80s New Wave/Alternative cover band. We're a full band with drums, bass and two guitars, and while nobody plays at deafening stage volume it's definitely actual rock music---real acoustic drums and cymbals, for instance. I keep waiting for the Interbass to fall short but so far it has gotten the job done at every gig where I've used it, including a couple outdoor shows. We do run the bass through the PA, but I don't often feel like the PA is doing that much work with it.

One thing I did that made a big difference was getting an EA Wizzy-112 cabinet, which is (a) very efficient (103dB) and (b) 4 ohms, so I'm getting all the power out of the Interbass and making the most of every watt. But that combination, besides drastically dropping the overall weight of my rig, gets the job done in a scenario where I never used to play with less than several hundred watts of power through bigger cabinets (4x10 or 8x10).

What we do may not work for everyone, but I continue to be amazed by what that rig can do. If I could change anything about it I might wish for better tone shaping---I don't find the Interbass EQ stack to be optimal---but for playing bar gigs with a rock band, let's be honest: the subtleties of bass tone don't really matter. It sounds pretty good, and the convenience cannot be beat.
 
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#396
Agreed, I got an IB for sm/med gigs via public transit in the city and im always pleased by its performance. A quality cab will go a long way to making this sing. I use either an AI DoubleShot or UpShot with it and never fails, ALOT of ppl will come up to ask "whats up with that?" :roflmao:
 
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lomo said:
FYI: I emailed Quilter asking if the Interbass could be powered by a CIOKS DC-7 power source, which has a 24V accessory output that is 2 amps (the Quilter PS is 24V/ 3 amps). He said it should work fine at 8 Ohms, although it might struggle at 4 Ohms. That'll work fine for me, because all my cabs are 8 Ohms and I'll never use the Interbass as a power source if I haul 2 cabs/need to be loud. I plan to rig up a pedal board with the Interbass that can be plugged directly into a cab for practice/ small settings.
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Did you ever try this out? If so, how did it sound/work out? Any special cable needed?
 

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