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Quilter Labs InterBass!

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"Anybody" even considering 2 of these (or even 1) - Just Do It!
F112 Top cab = chorus pedal after the aby and tuner. Amp dialed in for highs and on the FR setting.
F212 = yyz pedal after the aby and tuner. On the vintage setting. Tube sound was perfect but the whole biamped setup filled in so much for our 3 piece sound. Truly incredible.
Volume settings were no more than 11:00 o'clock.
I tried all of one song with the bottom cab on the FR setting. Halfway through I immediately flipped it back to vintage.
Party had at least 60 people in this backyard. Many compliments on sound. A few guys remarked how our sound was perfect at the far wall and near us in the patio area. Very cool.
It's weird how much I really like my BB800 and how I dropped a few tube preamp'd amps in favor of it. But now, the sound coming out "of these pedals" is something to hear firsthand. It's a whole new sonic value for sure. And so much less to carry.
Did I mention the volume 'never' went above 50%. :hyper::bassist::thumbsup::)
 
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The vintage mode on this unit doesn't act like the majority of cab sims I've tried. There is actually more presence, almost like a really organic aural enhancer, in that it makes the FR mode (and any other pre and amp I've tried) sound 2 dimensional in comparison, simultaneously making notes stand out but sitting nicely in the mix.
It has the same effect on a P bass with flats and an active Jazz bass with rounds, somehow smoothing out the clanky new string sound of the rounds while not darkening the sound. Flats don't sound muffled either, but the notes bloom and the dynamics and "string feel" make playing fun.
I think Pat may have missed a trick not including the vintage switch on the 802.

Also, for anyone disappointed about the laptop style power supply, the rather more boutique Jules Simone pre has a similar PSU...
 
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GBass001 said:
Absolutely. I've been practicing with my Fearless F112 by itself and can easily set off seismic alarms in my house. :woot:;)
For practice I barely have the volume past 9:00 o'clock. Live band use volume is no more than 11:00 o'clock.
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Sounds great, might keep this as an option. It's not available yet over here. Was thinking originally to go for the 802 head but I think this may be enough. I thought I'd need a much more powerful head as cab is 8ohm but yesterday I had my first gig with it and I ran it with a p.a head and preamp at barely 200watts and it was plenty loud.
 
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Anton65 said:
Sounds great, might keep this as an option. It's not available yet over here. Was thinking originally to go for the 802 head but I think this may be enough. I thought I'd need a much more powerful head as cab is 8ohm but yesterday I had my first gig with it and I ran it with a p.a head and preamp at barely 200watts and it was plenty loud.
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Yeah, the Fearful and Fearless cabs are very sensitive and can handle the lowest to the most watts. Truly incredible boxes. I used to run 2k watt amp through my F212 and it would laugh no matter how loud I pushed it. Never farted, ever..

I play out live probably 3-5x a month. This month happens to be 6x. We never have FOH or any P.A. support beyond what we bring (2x 15" speakers on poles for vox only & occasional kick). I can confidently say I do not need more power than the Interbass delivers to cover "all" our live needs. Especially since I am actually using 2 in my current bi-amp rig. But even then I know 1 will cover with either cab - F112 or F212.

After the party I played outdoors Saturday night I now know 45 Quilter watts is far beyond my live needs. Running bi-amp also gives me the proverbial back-up amp. And we're talking 1.3 lbs total for both. Oh, and what a deal, you can buy 2 instead of 1, compared to the BB800 or BB802. :)
 
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GBass001 said:
A very tiny sample of the end of Sweet Caroline. Use headphones for appreciation.
Remember, I'm running bi-amp with 2 interbass pedals into both an F112 for highs on the FR setting and the F212 is slightly bass boosted on the Vintage setting.
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Sweet! sounds hefty. I will try it out when I get a chance and I can always send it back if its not enough power as it will only be 33watts at 8ohm.Yeah i'm blown away by my cab can't believe how great they sound. Didn't think it would turn out near as good as it did. Halfway through making it I thought "what the hell i'm I doing"
 
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Anton65 said:
Sweet! sounds hefty. I will try it out when I get a chance and I can always send it back if its not enough power as it will only be 33watts at 8ohm.Yeah i'm blown away by my cab can't believe how great they sound. Didn't think it would turn out near as good as it did. Halfway through making it I thought "what the hell i'm I doing"
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That's too funny. I'm an ex-carpenter myself and was just about to pull the trigger on all the materials when I decided to just have one of the builders create a Fearless box for me. I couldn't decide what to get either. I was on the fence between them so I told the dude - Screwit, make me one of each. :woot::)
 
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Anton65 said:
You think there is enough power for a fearful 12/6 ? I don't need to be crazy loud.
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I have never found a definition of the the volume level at ''not crazy loud''. It definitely won't be crazy loud though. It could also turn out to be the other undefined volume ''not loud enough''.

It will be roughly half as loud as a 500w amp going hard. Half as loud is 10dB less loud. You can demonstrate that roughly on a mixer desk. Crank a channel. Drop it to where the meter shows 10dB less.

I don't know if the 500w amp going hard into 12/6 even qualifies as ''crazy loud'' for some of TB. Some of those guys can't deal with a 200w amp being enough for others who only need to be ''not crazy loud''.

200w is good for +6dB over 50w. That's the kind of woohoo you from doubling up on cabinets in a big crazy loud system.

At the low power end of the scale all cabs are incredibly much louder per watt than at the high end. Going 5w to 50w gives the same +10dB from 45w increase but you have pile on another 450w to get another 10dB.

The difference in sensitivity of the cabs is very noticeable at low power level. Yours is relatively low in sensitivity and high in power handling. A 3dB deficit of sensitivity requires a whole doubling of power to make up.

Beware the KoolAid.
 
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Chuck King said:
Well, last weekend I gigged with the Interbass again. Here was the room:

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. . . and here was my rig:

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Again, the amp got plenty loud. I asked whether the sound man had been running me through the PA, and here's the response:

"I really didn't need a whole lot of him in the mains! He was a little loud but it wasn't a problem."

A little loud. In that big room. With that itty bitty amp.
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Gorgeous bass, what kind is it?


ctmullins said:
Will have to check one out.

Just proves how little wattage is really needed for most situations. I suspect many of us don’t realize that we typically only use around 50 watts of our 800 watt amps.

And that’s a good illustration of how misleading the entire “watts” concept can be.
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I'm always amused by the guys worried about driving a multi-kilowatt PA amp with a pedal that won't push it to the full rated capacity. It's like, even if it'll max out at 2500 watts instead of a full 3000 would that really not be enough?
 
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Downunderwonder said:
I have never found a definition of the the volume level at ''not crazy loud''. It definitely won't be crazy loud though. It could also turn out to be the other undefined volume ''not loud enough''.

It will be roughly half as loud as a 500w amp going hard. Half as loud is 10dB less loud. You can demonstrate that roughly on a mixer desk. Crank a channel. Drop it to where the meter shows 10dB less.

I don't know if the 500w amp going hard into 12/6 even qualifies as ''crazy loud'' for some of TB. Some of those guys can't deal with a 200w amp being enough for others who only need to be ''not crazy loud''.

200w is good for +6dB over 50w. That's the kind of woohoo you from doubling up on cabinets in a big crazy loud system.

At the low power end of the scale all cabs are incredibly much louder per watt than at the high end. Going 5w to 50w gives the same +10dB from 45w increase but you have pile on another 450w to get another 10dB.

The difference in sensitivity of the cabs is very noticeable at low power level. Yours is relatively low in sensitivity and high in power handling. A 3dB deficit of sensitivity requires a whole doubling of power to make up.

Thanks for the knowledge!
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Downunderwonder said:
I have never found a definition of the the volume level at ''not crazy loud''. It definitely won't be crazy loud though. It could also turn out to be the other undefined volume ''not loud enough''.

It will be roughly half as loud as a 500w amp going hard. Half as loud is 10dB less loud. You can demonstrate that roughly on a mixer desk. Crank a channel. Drop it to where the meter shows 10dB less.

I don't know if the 500w amp going hard into 12/6 even qualifies as ''crazy loud'' for some of TB. Some of those guys can't deal with a 200w amp being enough for others who only need to be ''not crazy loud''.

200w is good for +6dB over 50w. That's the kind of woohoo you from doubling up on cabinets in a big crazy loud system.

At the low power end of the scale all cabs are incredibly much louder per watt than at the high end. Going 5w to 50w gives the same +10dB from 45w increase but you have pile on another 450w to get another 10dB.

The difference in sensitivity of the cabs is very noticeable at low power level. Yours is relatively low in sensitivity and high in power handling. A 3dB deficit of sensitivity requires a whole doubling of power to make up.

Beware the KoolAid.
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Thanks for the knowledge
 

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