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Rack preamps with EQ: what's out there?

The SVP Pro is one of those I'm considering, but I haven't been able to find a 2nd hand one yet.

Francis Hylton (Incognito) uses an SVT-4 Pro - I think - and an Ampeg fridge live, and I like his tone.
Like I said - you're probably more likely to find an SVT-3Pro head than the SVP-Pro standalone preamp. It's perfectly fine to run the 3Pro with no speaker, I've used mine for recording (before I had the Zephyr). I still use that head when I need more power live.

But be careful about making assumptions about live sound and what you see on stage. The amp on stage is the player's personal monitor, the signal path to what the audience hears might not involve that at all ;) (but if you see a mic in front of the speaker, you might actually be hearing the amp).
 
I know that's just a cut and paste from the product info sheet... but this line made me chuckle.
Yes, I wish marketing folks in general wouldn’t make such ridiculous claims without a technical education! It’s everywhere these days.
 
Rack preamps are tough finds these days... I'm still hoping (but not holding my breath) that Mesa would release the Subway preamps in a rack format, or at least a format that fits on top of my Subway D-800+. All the flavors, one power amp.

How much do you lean into one component for your sound? I lean very little into my preamps the majority of the time. Bass into DI and done. Even when I use my preamps, I'm not a huge knob tweaker, a little here or there unless I need something radically different. I have no problem with studio/live gear, but you may not. EQs built for bass amps aren't inherently different, they are just voiced at specific points. A studio style channel strip may have less bass friendly EQ centers.

If you want to go down the pre/power rack path, here's some more information:

The Ampeg SVP-Pro is a nice unit; I still have mine. It's fairly flat frequency response wise with all knobs at noon and lots of tweaking ability. The XLR in pre-eq config, is taken at the beginning of V1 so the gain staging for both FoH and your amp start there. There is some pleasant saturation to be had at that first gain stage, but again it goes to FoH as well. If you tweak the first gain knob mid show, the sound man will be looking at you funny. The drive knob is an upper mid grind which also needs a bit of low compensation. The unbalanced line out brings the last of 5 tubes into action. I special ordered mine in the 90's and haven't seen another in the wild. My most gigged preamp and very flexible but there are reports of noisy samples.

BBE BMax Solid State - Still have one. The XLR is the Achilles heel, post-eq only. The Fender tone stack can get to flat, but little tweaks of the knobs make big moves. There are threads floating with the designer (Judd Levinson? I think) who describe design goals of a big bottom like the Alembic F1-X and the bright top like a Glockenklang. Something like that anyway. I never used the tube version. Dry/Clean sounding, fast transients, a very immediate sound. Ed Friedland, the Bass Whisperer, had one in his YouTube videos for a while when presenting various basses.

GK 2001-RBP - I had two that were unreliable. I didn't attempt to trust a third.

SWR Grand Prix - I miss it for nostalgias sake, but I think I get pretty close with the BBE Bmax. Not particularly tube-y like the Ampeg. At the right price, I would buy one to see how good my memory is.

Trace Elliot GP7 Preamp - Wasn't a fan, moved on quickly. Briefly ran one bass on the TE and another into the SWR.

All that said, if I'm jamming with someone, the Mesa D800+ is going with me, and the rack gear stays home.
 
BBE BMax Solid State - Still have one. The XLR is the Achilles heel, post-eq only. The Fender tone stack can get to flat, but little tweaks of the knobs make big moves. There are threads floating with the designer (Judd Levinson? I think) who describe design goals of a big bottom like the Alembic F1-X and the bright top like a Glockenklang. Something like that anyway. I never used the tube version. Dry/Clean sounding, fast transients, a very immediate sound. Ed Friedland, the Bass Whisperer, had one in his YouTube videos for a while when presenting various basses.
I could get one of these at a fraction of my budget, and yes I did read that thread - very informative.
The XLR out being post-EQ only is definitely not ideal though.

I'm wondering whether keeping it simple with a Sansamp RBI would make more sense. But then, I've mostly seen it praised for its driven tone and different genres than the ones I usually dig. Is this a myth?
 
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If the BBE Bmax ticked your boxes, you could grab an external DI of your choice and use that for the board, with the BMax feeding the power amp. Very inexpensive option to test with. Most sound guys at the places I played preferred it that way and only a few got to know me and used the Ampeg or the SWR. When I'm recording, I take a signal off of my RNDI and the preamp of whim.

I only tried the RBI once in a store and I'm surprised I never took one home, but that was around the time of the SVP-Pro purchase.
 
Wouldn't you just be duplicating the Preamp that's already in the D800+?
I'd be looking for the TT and the WD in dedicated preamp form. Me and like 7 others want it, which wouldn't make it financially viable. Just like Sir Bass A Lot said, I like tube preamps and I just can't lie... or something like that. I know, sell the D-800+, buy the TT-800, sell a kidney, and buy the WD.
 
2 SushiBox FX Underground Accellerators stacked. One for normal, One for boost / EQ override... and into an HX Stomp for global EQ, Comp, EFX, IR host and DI /thread. Don't use EFX ? simply ignore them...
 
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In the end I found a 2nd hand SansAmp RBI and will experiment with it for a while. I can always resell it.

But my crazy idea is to eventually go with a 2 channel outboard pre (like one of the many Neve clones) and an input selector to switch bass during lives while preserving their dedicated settings like gain, eq and level.
 
In the end I found a 2nd hand SansAmp RBI and will experiment with it for a while. I can always resell it.

But my crazy idea is to eventually go with a 2 channel outboard pre (like one of the many Neve clones) and an input selector to switch bass during lives while preserving their dedicated settings like gain, eq and level.
I love my RBI. It's a box I know I will never sell.

If you wanted to gig with a Neve clone, something that you weren't as precious about as you might be with a BAE clone or even a Heritage, consider the Warm Audio WA273-EQ, which gives you two channels, instrument ins, transformers. A lot to like.

WARM WA273-EQ

$1,599
 
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