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Range Rover Runs Over Bikers

#181
skychief said:
The video DOESN'T lie. I agree with that. Then please explain why the SUV driver hasn't been charged with attempted vehicular homicide.

Clearly, he was attempting to kill the biker caught under his wheels.

If I were driving a 5000-pound vehicle and purposely ran over a motorcyclist, I would presume he would be dead. Anyone care to dispute that?

edit: and i think the biker that was run-over was not the same individual who did the "brake-check".
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I would surmise that it's probably because the video shows the driver was in reasonable enough jeopardy to justify his actions as self defense. You're right, the victim of the driver is a different member of the group than the one who caused the initial accident. It's hard to say how involved he was with the actual attack on the SUV, but again that's something the courts will have to decide. The driver may get some sort of sentence, but I'd think it would be significantly less than what the gang members receive.
 
#182
skychief said:
Kudos to Gloria Allred who is championing the family of the the biker who was deliberately run over by the SUV driver.

Why that guy was not charged with assault is beyond me. He tried to KILL that guy. This is a no-brainer assault case.
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Tried to kill or was acting in defense of himself and his family when confronted by hundreds of potential threats? I see the latter, not the former.
 
#185
Can we rename this thread "reprobate biker PLACES HIMSELF under Range Rover wheels where he receives his just desserts" ?

I think it's more accurate. The biker is to blame for playing chicken with a 4 wheel drive vehicle driven by poppa bear when baby bear is inside.
 
#186
jmattbassplaya said:
Tried to kill or was acting in defense of himself and his family when confronted by hundreds of potential threats? I see the latter, not the former.
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"Self-Defense" is a poor, feeble excuse used much to frequently these days.
Folks should be accountable for their actions.

Granted (from the video), the biker(s) seemed to have initiated the confrontation.

But I would have put the safety of my family first. I mean, after he ran over that poor guy, what good could possibly come out of the SUV driver's assault?

I know,, Its easy to do Monday-morning quarterbacking, but seriously,, what was the guy thinking?
 
#187
I believe he was probably much more concerned with the immediate imminent danger being posed to himself and his family at that moment than the possible moral or legal consequences of his escape. He was in survival mode. I believe the video shows that pretty clearly.
 
#188
skychief said:
I know,, Its easy to do Monday-morning quarterbacking, but seriously,, what was the guy thinking?
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Probably something like: Holy $***! These A-holes are slashing my tires and beating on my truck with their helmets! I gotta get out of here before they kill us!

Tell me skycheif, what would you have done in this situation?
 
#189
bassinplace said:
I believe he was probably much more concerned with the immediate imminent danger being posed to himself and his family at that moment than the possible moral or legal consequences of his escape. He was in survival mode. I believe the video shows that pretty clearly.
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the video also shows him plow through several bikers who were not the one individual who started this whole mess. he could've (did he?) kill one or more of them.

the brake check move is rude and obnoxious and that guy was riding like a complete moron. but running over an entire crowd of people is more than just rude..
 
#190
groooooove said:
the video also shows him plow through several bikers who were not the one individual who started this whole mess. he could've (did he?) kill one or more of them.

the brake check move is rude and obnoxious and that guy was riding like a complete moron. but running over an entire crowd of people is more than just rude..
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No, but multiple people converged on the SUV simultaneously in attack mode. The ones hit were the ones in the closest proximity when the driver made his escape. The courts will have to decide if the drivers actions were excessive.
 
#193
groooooove said:
the video also shows him plow through several bikers who were not the one individual who started this whole mess. he could've (did he?) kill one or more of them.

the brake check move is rude and obnoxious and that guy was riding like a complete moron. but running over an entire crowd of people is more than just rude..
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The other riders are guilty by association. Look at how they acted and reacted. It wasn't the lone actions of a few of them, mob mentality is a scary thing.

He was surrounded, they were already up to illegal activities and they were clearly trying to intimidate him. Are you telling me that a bunch of people, flagrantly breaking the law, surrounding you and forcing you to a stop in the middle of the highway is simply rude and obnoxious?

They say hindsight is 20/20, going by the way the bikers acted, his forsight was bang on the money. Of course, I'm sure the rider with no license and no insurance was going to be a friendly chap :p
 
#194
skychief said:
"Self-Defense" is a poor, feeble excuse used much to frequently these days.
Folks should be accountable for their actions.

Granted (from the video), the biker(s) seemed to have initiated the confrontation.

But I would have put the safety of my family first. I mean, after he ran over that poor guy, what good could possibly come out of the SUV driver's assault?

I know,, Its easy to do Monday-morning quarterbacking, but seriously,, what was the guy thinking?
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Uhhh, how about, "Holy moly! These guys are going to attack me and my family! I'd better get out of here any way I can!" Which is exactly what I would have done.

Also, one comma will suffice between clauses, if any.
 
#196
skychief said:
You got the cart in front of the horse.

Review the video.
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Try again.

The rider that brake checked the Rover also got up in the drivers face, basically tapping his driver side window or trying to get him to stop before the brake check. That's in the video. And THEN he brake checked the Rover. According to accounts, that brake check caused the bike to go down.

It remains unclear whether the bike gang was stopping to assist the rider whose bike went down due to his own stupidity and reckless riding, or if they were indeed SHUTTING DOWN A HIGHWAY for the purposes of racing or tricks. Either way, these riders were acting in a completely irresponsible fashion.

During this stop a group of riders had surrounded the Rover and were reportedly beating on it. It's unclear if the tires of the Rover had been slashed at this time. It seems to have been this that prompted the driver of the Rover to take action, resulting in him running over 2 bikes and the one rider who was attempting to assist the biker who had performed the brake check.

So if you were in that SUV with your wife and young child, are you just going to sit there as your vehicle is beaten with helmets and your tires get slashed? From your perch you seem perfectly content to assign malicious intent to the driver, when in reality he was acting in the interest of protecting his family and himself from a mob.
 
#198
The driver of the SUV should not be charged with a damn thing, but rather given a medal for dad of the year.
When you're facing perceived danger and have seconds to make a decision, it may not always be the right one, but in this instance it's totally understandable in my book. He chose to get the hell out of dodge rather than to wait and see if he and his family were going to be attacked and even possibly killed. How the heck do you know what the intent is of a mob of angry people beating on your windows? What, are you supposed to wait and see? Screw that.
 
#199
skychief said:
Kudos to Gloria Allred who is championing the family of the the biker who was deliberately run over by the SUV driver.

Why that guy was not charged with assault is beyond me. He tried to KILL that guy. This is a no-brainer assault case.
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he was being attacked .

Attack me while I'm in my car and it juat might be my self defense weaponof choice.
 
#200
Ziltoid said:
The bikers are dickwats and I blame them. BUT if he would of just stopped, let them do their stunts or whatever they do it is likely none of this would of happened.
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It's definitely true. But it's also true that if they did not decide to get on their bikes and behave in a manner that instigated this to begin with none of this would have ever happened.
Don't forget that before this happened, the local police had about 200 calls to them from people complaining about these bikers...
 

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