Rate My Custom Headstock Logo!

[carlo3874]

Hello,

I kinda of liked how it was on the back of the headstock minus the .com. I not so sure about it on the front and curved.

 

[-=DanAtkinson=-]

Personally, I really think that's to large Dan. But that's just my opinion. The logo should show who created the instrument... rather than the instrument being a billboard for your logo. IMHO.

Hmmm. Well, to me it doesn't look any bigger than some of the Fender logos:

 

[-=DanAtkinson=-]

Hello,

I kinda of liked how it was on the back of the headstock minus the .com. I not so sure about it on the front and curved.

I had the decals made curved and non-curved. I can do either. I just personally like it to follow the shape of the headstock.

On the back, it should definitely be straight.

 

[DavidCertain]

Now now...don't be so harsh on Mongo2. I rather like having a stalker on TB.

Hi Dan,
welcome to the TB Stalkee Club. At least you didn't get the whole cadre of stalkers extraordinaire, but you're getting a good dose. The perennial naysayers. I'm not seeing any infringement on your part, but I see the accusations. Kinda' makes me sick: a dude designs his own logo, is kinda' proud of it, does good work in general, but merely wants comments and CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, then they try to make you out as a crook. I wonder: what do they do that's so noteworthy. What gives them license to poo poo on a good man's character? You do good work and certainly don't deserve this crap.

I like your logo especially given the fact you designed it yourself. I had a bass customer who is a graphic artist who told me I needed my own logo. He designed it, but I had to pay him of course. It was worth it. Elita in gold with black outline and CertainBass black with gold outline. Elita is cursive not unlike Fender, CertainBass is block font like early 70's Fender model names. The whole presentation is kind of a cross between early 70's and 60's style. I didn't want to reinvent the wheel, I wanted something that looked conventional.

It's good to know there's someone who is doing about the same thing I am and whose company is about the same size, small. Never know where it might take us, but we both love the feeling of having satisfied customers and making the bass world a little better because we gave someone something they wanted and couldn't get elsewhere. Who can mess with that?

 

[Shadi]

Hi Dan,
welcome to the TB Stalkee Club. At least you didn't get the whole cadre of stalkers extraordinaire, but you're getting a good dose. The perennial naysayers. I'm not seeing any infringement on your part, but I see the accusations. Kinda' makes me sick: a dude designs his own logo, is kinda' proud of it, does good work in general, but merely wants comments and CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, then they try to make you out as a crook. I wonder: what do they do that's so noteworthy. What gives them license to poo poo on a good man's character? You do good work and certainly don't deserve this crap.

I like your logo especially given the fact you designed it yourself. I had a bass customer who is a graphic artist who told me I needed my own logo. He designed it, but I had to pay him of course. It was worth it. Elita in gold with black outline and CertainBass black with gold outline. Elita is cursive not unlike Fender, CertainBass is block font like early 70's Fender model names. The whole presentation is kind of a cross between early 70's and 60's style. I didn't want to reinvent the wheel, I wanted something that looked conventional.

It's good to know there's someone who is doing about the same thing I am and whose company is about the same size, small. Never know where it might take us, but we both love the feeling of having satisfied customers and making the bass world a little better because we gave someone something they wanted and couldn't get elsewhere. Who can mess with that?

+1000

 

[jpfbass]

Yeah it's pretty cool. It's a nice classic logo, nothing flashy, but it's still pretty awesome.

 

[ehque]

Uh dan, one other thing -

Many instrument makers have a single image which they use concurrently with the long name.

Think of Fender and the big stylised F, Fodera with the butterfly, Sandberg with the 4 dots, Peavey with the triangle - there's always some sort of instantly recognisable single image that is linked with their name.

I would like to have seen your headstock do that.

 

[bongomania]

Small detail: the "o" in "son" looks like an "a", as in "Atkinsan". Otherwise it looks great, I totally dig it.

 

[DavidCertain]

Man, I need a charged fire hose, because this thread is flaming up good.

I think if Dan was doing something illegal; him, Bill Nash, and David Certain would be shut down via legal injunction. While I understand and respect Mongo's opinion, I don't think Dan or any of his peers in the Fender clone field make any attempt to deceive potential customers. Hell, Dan even discloses his parts sources. The bass world is chock full of so many vendors who offer something different. I’m glad Fender clones are available along with other unique low-end offerings.

Fact is: when we use the Fender headstock shape, we're buying from a Fender Licensed shop such as AllParts, Warmoth, etc who pay FMIC its license fees. I have my own headstock shape now, but I still provide the Fender shape for those who must have it.

What's really crazy is if the Fender people were on the ball in 1949, they could have trademarked or even patented the Fender Electric Bass, the whole thing. It was plenty unique enough. They should have gone after anyone who attempted to make anything that is remotely like a Fender bass. Fender got his trademark lesson when RCA went after him for the Broadcaster as they had a TV of the same name. Fender employed a guy whose job was just to make up names, from model names to custom color names. Today, that RCA suit would not have been victorious because it really doesn't cause confusion in the market place, the prerequisite for a successful trademark suit. Now the current FMIC is reduced to logos and headstock shapes when they could have had the electric bass. They claim a plethora of trademarks they have not yet defended such as the capital letters F, P and J. It's really not their trademark until it's been tested in court. They won the headstock shape suit but not the body shape and numerous other suits. FMIC is basically a branding company run by a bunch of lawyers. They've been buying companies right and left just for the brand names then in many cases they produce a lower quality product than the original company.

 

[savit260]

. Fender got his trademark lesson when RCA went after him for the Broadcaster as they had a TV of the same name. Fender employed a guy whose job was just to make up names, from model names to custom color names. Today, that RCA suit would not have been victorious because it really doesn't cause confusion in the market place, the prerequisite for a successful trademark suit.

I believe , from every source I've ever seen that it was Gretsch (another musical instrument company) that got Fender to stop using the Broadcaster name. Gretsch had a drum kit called Broadkaster.


Fender was probalby using RCA type circuts for it's amps, but I'm not aware of any lawsuits over it.

EDIT: ADDED: I also was under the impression that this was "gentleman's agreement" between Gretsch and Fender to stop using the Broadcaster name. I don't think there was any lawsuit.

Could you please link a source for this R.C.A. suit. I'm curious as to what this was about (if anything).

 

[Kwesi]

I dig it! Very clean and fits the headstock perfectly. However, if I were to give it any sort of criticism I'd have to say that it's too plain but I'm one of those guys who like flashy, blinged out basses with, shiny bits on them ;p (gold hardware, pearl tuning keys, mop inlays, inlayed logos, etc.) but I don't think that would fit your basses very well so good job, lol.

 

[mongo2]

Fender got his trademark lesson when RCA went after him for the Broadcaster as they had a TV of the same name.

As mentioned above by savit260 it was the Fender Broadcaster guitar and Gretsch Broadkaster drums.

A telegram was sent on Februrary 20, 1951 from The Fred Gretsch Mfg. Co. to Donald Randall at the then Radio and Television Co. that was a request to abandon the name based on a trademark registered by Gretsch o June 29, 1937 with the US Patent Office (#347503).

The telegram is reproduced on page 86 in "Fender the Sound Heard 'Round the World" by Richard R. Smith.

Randall immediately complied and notified his sales staff to stop using the name.

Clipping the "Broadcaster" name from the decal is the reason for the current "No Caster" moniker for the instruments with those clipped decals.

 

[ProfGumby]

Small detail: the "o" in "son" looks like an "a", as in "Atkinsan". Otherwise it looks great, I totally dig it.

Maybe it is Japanese? Atkin San





Seriously, do what you want, it is your bass.I can't wait till I design the logo for my franken basses, parts build basses and original build basses....but I don't think I'm gonna ask anyone about it here. Kinda like kicking a hornets nest while covered in honey, in a bear cage....

 

[Spencer!]

I just snagged the P Bass he had up on ebay - I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces.

 

[needmoney]

Sooooo the general consensus is, you can put your logo on a Fender headstock if the parts are licensed by Fender? What if they're made by Fender?

 

[ProfGumby]

Rowan Atkinson? Seriously..It looks nice.

Actually I quite like it! Maybe make one all black body, hardware, pickguard, headstock...call it the "Black Adder"








Sorry....

 

[Fuzzbass]

Hey gang, hopefully this isn't against the rules or something.

I've been asked by several people about a headstock logo on my basses. So I sat down last night with Photoshop and put this design together. Good? Bad?

(REVISED: This is the final logo in action - actual decal on headstock)

I like it. 85 out of 100.

 

[mongo2]

Sooooo the general consensus is, you can put your logo on a Fender headstock if the parts are licensed by Fender?

I suppose that'd be up to Fender's lawyers if they ever decide to pursue it.

What if they're made by Fender?

Then wouldn't the neck already have a Fender decal which is apparently what people really want?