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Recone Speakers or have I lost my mind.

#43
Red Planet said:
I think you need to run more than just one of my posts Jimmy.

I never stated that I was running all of the QSC's output into the cabs.
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Andy's comment above this one aside, let's suppose you're not running all the output into the cabs currently. The only possible reason I could see for your mod is to be able to run all of its output into your cabs. If you're running at a lower volume, then I see no need to drop the impedance. If you're trying to squeeze more juice into your cabs, then I think that's a waste too because you're more than likely not going to be able to run it all anyway, for reasons Andy stated.

Hey, you want honesty or do you just want people to tell you it's a great idea even though it's not? If that's what you wanted, you should have started your post out with something like, "I'm not looking for honesty here. I just want people to tell me what a great idea this is."

That was a yuk-yuk, BTW...just wanted to make that clear. I wish you luck whatever you do, but I don't think it's a very good plan at all.
 
#44
As I have said about a gazillion times here there is just something about having that kind of engine that is better to my ears than running a smaller amp. Even the speakers like it more. :bassist:
 
#45
So apparently the votes are in and the "You've lost your mind" is leading the pack at nearly 90%....

Man that would sure depress me if I didn't hear it all day - everyday from my wife, kid, supposed friends, past business partners, next door neighbor lady, gunsmith....

BOB
 
#47
Red Planet said:
As I have said about a gazillion times here there is just something about having that kind of engine that is better to my ears than running a smaller amp. Even the speakers like it more. :bassist:
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But you don't have a big cab rig, you have a medium cab rig, and merely changing out the drivers to ones with less resistance isn't going to make them perform any better than they do now, IMHO, and also might make them significantly less good. You're assuming that they're going to be great without knowing for sure, and you're getting a lot of good advice from Andy, whose business it is to know such things, and I would listen very hard to him if I were you.

Having said that, it's a free country, and if you want to try it, you have nothing to lose but money and your cabs' original drivers and possibly the sound that made you like them in the first place. If it works, feel free to laugh in our faces. If not, it's only money. Of course it's a lot of money, but still just money. Either way, my life is good (well, slightly better than crappy), but I do like to help people save money when I think they're beating their heads against the wall. This just happens to be one of those times, so please pardon my concern.
 
#48
If you like the sound of the cab DONT mess with it! Keep it as is and try different gear to get the sound you are looking for. Also keep in mind that RMS ratings are what the mfg. want them to be. I have a 1000 solid state amp that is no louder than an Ampeg SVT (300 watts).
 
#49
rbonner said:
So apparently the votes are in and the "You've lost your mind" is leading the pack at nearly 90%....

Man that would sure depress me if I didn't hear it all day - everyday from my wife, kid, supposed friends, past business partners, next door neighbor lady, gunsmith....

BOB
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Mr Bonner have I ever told you how much I enjoy your posts?;)
 
#51
Red Planet said:
Not trying to do that.
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Well you may not be but it could very well happen.

Listen, I see what you're trying to do. But again, you're trying to assign something happening under one scenario as happening right down the line with everything. You're wanting to change a possibly unrelated variable to get the result you get with a main variable. Might work, but if this was Vegas, I'd bet $1000 against it.

EDIT: Bob, no I'm not going to take you up on it. That was a metaphor ;)
 
#52
There are 2x10 Cabs that are 4 ohm available on the market and they are not exploding right and left as well as 4 ohm 15's. Granted not many of the 15's.

What I'm talking of achieving is the perfermance I have with the higher power available form the QSC with these cabs Xmax, thermal, and all.
 
#53
Red Planet said:
There are 2x10 Cabs that are 4 ohm available on the market and they are not exploding right and left as well as 4 ohm 15's. Granted not many of the 15's.

What I'm talking of achieving is the perfermance I have with the higher power available form the QSC with these cabs Xmax, thermal, and all.
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OK, well good luck with it. I don't buy into the idea but it's not my stuff so I hope it works.
 
#55
I sort of did a similar thing.
When I changed from an Eden WT400 to a WT800, I exchanged my 8ohm cabs for 4ohm cabs...to get the max power out of the new head.......Sounded much bigger, but eventually all the Eden drivers needed reconing......an Eden problem I believe. 2 210 cabs was not enough for my needs at the time....2 410 cabs would have been better....2 4ohm 410's .
I kept a 410XLT 8ohm and can pair it with my Berg 15 or 210 or anything else I feel like and it always sounds good.
8ohms always gives you flexibility
 
#57
BassmanPaul said:
let's look at cost here. Average cost to re-cone a speaker $40-50 each plus the cost of the kit, if actually available. Kits can vary in cost from $50 on up. That's about $100 per speaker. You could probably buy replacement 4Ω drivers , again if available, for that much and sell your existing units to offset cost. If you don't use the exact kit for the re-cone the results will be a crapshoot at best.

To my mind you would be better served by picking up a stereo power amp and drive THAT from your amp of choice.

All thst being said, it's your equipment and your money! Do as what pleases you.

Paul
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Sorry missed this earlier. The most I have ever paid for a re cone with factory parts is $55.00 each.
 
#59
Paul lives in Canada, they have to pay big bucks for everything... Especially if the parts come from the USA...

You know RED you might be better off adding additional cabs to get 4 ohms than changing your current speakers. I'd rather run more power to more speakers than more power to the same number of speakers.

Especially if you are using small cabs anyway.

The trick with bass is to HIT THE SWEET SPOT on the speakers with just the right amount of power to get the "perfect sound" from them.

You regulars around here know what I mean about the sweet spot... RIGHT?

BOB
 
#60
rbonner said:
Paul lives in Canada, they have to pay big bucks for everything... Especially if the parts come from the USA...

You know RED you might be better off adding additional cabs to get 4 ohms than changing your current speakers. I'd rather run more power to more speakers than more power to the same number of speakers.

Especially if you are using small cabs anyway.

The trick with bass is to HIT THE SWEET SPOT on the speakers with just the right amount of power to get the "perfect sound" from them.

You regulars around here know what I mean about the sweet spot... RIGHT?

BOB
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They always taste a little bland to me untill well charred :D
Yes I do understand, when I used to run, eh hem, ceramics. :hiding:
 

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