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REDDI Tube DI Mega-thread-III
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svtb15
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is there anything such thing as 1000% +1
Steve, you've agonized over this for about 2 years nowI hear you, though...I agonized over it as well because it's a lot of money for a DI. But I was only moderately happy using the VT as a DI in comparison to my tube Ampegs, and I wasn't at all happy with any other DI unless it was hooked up to the speaker out of my tube Ampegs. And just like the mic I loved, I'd get flack from unfamiliar soundmen doing that.
I kind of agree with Kirk, though...might want to try the VT first. Good little pedal for the money for sure. But nothing gets it done for me like the REDDI and I'm very glad I got it.
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a VT is really different than the BDDI... However, a really good P bass and a REDDI is a wrecking ball wrapped in velvet...
It was my secret weapon a few years ago.. but now everyone i know is getting one.. I bring it to a session the next day they owner or engineer will buy one...
I bring it to live gigs and the sound crews eyes pop out and they love it.. They seem to turn the bass up louder in the mix too since it makes a difference.. Not night and day difference. but enough to be like "whoa!" That sounds great! Happens all the time
It was my secret weapon a few years ago.. but now everyone i know is getting one.. I bring it to a session the next day they owner or engineer will buy one...
I bring it to live gigs and the sound crews eyes pop out and they love it.. They seem to turn the bass up louder in the mix too since it makes a difference.. Not night and day difference. but enough to be like "whoa!" That sounds great! Happens all the time
I haven't cared for the BDDI when I've tried it. Maybe "tube" isn't what I want. I just think that my sound with just my Roscoe and the JDI is lacking something. We have a decent (soon to be better) system at church - pair of subs, 3 way crossover, etc. so I don't think it's that.
Maybe I need to get a P bass instead huh Jimmy?
I know it isn't always possible, but in an ideal world you don't care about the make. You sit down and try them all till you find one that feels good and plays in a way that inspires you. This from a guy who has driven nothing but Chevy cars all his life. 
The REDDI makes it easy, you don't have to audition them. They all sound good.
The REDDI makes it easy, you don't have to audition them. They all sound good.
I eliminated Lakland because of the oval bridge. Blech. Lull's nice, but I ended up with an 09 AmStd Fender because I got a decent price, and it was black and maple. The pickup sucked on it, but I put a 62 Original on it and now it rips.
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I have a few P basses.. my two best ones are a beat to death Alleva Coppolo kbp4.. and I picked up a used Fender Road Worn P bass that just kills on my REDDI and i only paid $500 for it..
I dont dig laklands at all... They all feel HARD and too brite to me.. i LOVE the Alleva because they feel like a worn in vintage fender bass , but its new,, and the resale values seems to hold better than any of those basses. Lull is nice, but very much like a sadowsky that sounds like a tweaked out fender and not a fender. Ive owned and gigged them all.... and then some..
Engineers always ask for my Alleva or my fender.... I did resurrect my old 71 Black/ Maple neck P bass a few months ago... and i have to say wow... at 40+ years it has opened up.. .and it growls.. no lakland is going to growl like that through a REDDI,,,
I dont dig laklands at all... They all feel HARD and too brite to me.. i LOVE the Alleva because they feel like a worn in vintage fender bass , but its new,, and the resale values seems to hold better than any of those basses. Lull is nice, but very much like a sadowsky that sounds like a tweaked out fender and not a fender. Ive owned and gigged them all.... and then some..
Engineers always ask for my Alleva or my fender.... I did resurrect my old 71 Black/ Maple neck P bass a few months ago... and i have to say wow... at 40+ years it has opened up.. .and it growls.. no lakland is going to growl like that through a REDDI,,,
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You dont have to spend alot of money...
Like my MIM Road Worn P.... if you dont mind Road worn.... My bud has a MIA USA P bass 2011.. its lightweight and sounds incredible....
just find the right bass and you are almost there..
Like my MIM Road Worn P.... if you dont mind Road worn.... My bud has a MIA USA P bass 2011.. its lightweight and sounds incredible....
just find the right bass and you are almost there..
That's very true, cost doesn't have to factor into it. I've found some amazing low cost instruments. Sometimes you can tweak the pickups like Jimmy did and make them better. You can take three identical model P basses and find that one of them shines over the others. Maybe it's the wood, the pickups, or some other factors that combine to make things come together to make that instrument special. This can happen at any price point. The problem is, you can spent a lifetime searching. When people buy higher end instruments, the builder supposedly took the time to build one that is special. This doesn't always translate to magic though.
The same can be said of amps and speaker cabinets. In the case of the REDDI, there are less variables and strict quality control can ensure that they all perform as intended.
The same can be said of amps and speaker cabinets. In the case of the REDDI, there are less variables and strict quality control can ensure that they all perform as intended.
[I put this together for the Monique forum, but include it here in case you don't follow that.]
Here are results of a quick-and-dirty DI test comparing Monique's DI with REDDI. I played a short syncopated arpeggio through the cycle from bottom to top of the neck of a Rob Allen Solid 4 (similar to an early 50's-style P bass) strung with ground wounds, tone knob on full. All Monique knobs were set to the noon position to make its DI signal as neutral as possible (i.e. equivalent to REDDI's "pre-EQ" setting).
For best results, load the files into your DAW, which makes it simple to jump back and forth between the tracks to compare tone.
ZIPed files from Dropbox:
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[Invalid or Expired Link Removed] in 192Kbps bitrate - 37MB
For immediate gratification, here are the MP3s (each about 4MB):
Monique/DI Tests - Monique - cabled - single DI
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DI Tests - Monique - cabled - split DI - Side A
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DI Tests - Monique - cabled - split DI - Side B
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DI Tests - REDDI - cabled
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DI Tests - Monique - wireless split DI - Side A
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DI Tests - Monique - wireless - split DI - Side B
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DI Tests - REDDI - wireless
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DI Tests - Monique - wireless cable simulation - split DI - Side A
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DI Tests - Monique - wireless cable simulation - split DI - Side B
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DI Tests - REDDI - wireless cable simulation
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Details:
Caveat: in the cabled tests, a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner ST-200 was in the chain. It was excluded during wireless tests. Sorry about that. The device has "true bypass" so don't make a big deal out of this one.
My impressions are that both of these DIs are superb. I wouldn't hesitate to use either in a critical recording situation. The recording quality with wireless is also very good, better than I though it would be. The non-sim wireless signal was hot compared to the cable sim setting; I left the Zoom H6's input volume the same as the wired settings so you can see how much hotter in a DAW. I liked the wireless cable simulator better than the non-sim setting. I also couldn't tell the difference in recording quality between plugging a single XLR into Monique's DI versus using the dual XLR splitter. The results are here so you can decide for yourself whether Monique or REDDI "won" the test. I like 'em both!
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Here are results of a quick-and-dirty DI test comparing Monique's DI with REDDI. I played a short syncopated arpeggio through the cycle from bottom to top of the neck of a Rob Allen Solid 4 (similar to an early 50's-style P bass) strung with ground wounds, tone knob on full. All Monique knobs were set to the noon position to make its DI signal as neutral as possible (i.e. equivalent to REDDI's "pre-EQ" setting).
For best results, load the files into your DAW, which makes it simple to jump back and forth between the tracks to compare tone.
ZIPed files from Dropbox:
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed] - 121MB
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed] in 192Kbps bitrate - 37MB
For immediate gratification, here are the MP3s (each about 4MB):
Monique/DI Tests - Monique - cabled - single DI
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DI Tests - Monique - cabled - split DI - Side A
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
DI Tests - Monique - cabled - split DI - Side B
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
DI Tests - REDDI - cabled
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DI Tests - Monique - wireless split DI - Side A
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DI Tests - Monique - wireless - split DI - Side B
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DI Tests - REDDI - wireless
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DI Tests - Monique - wireless cable simulation - split DI - Side A
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DI Tests - Monique - wireless cable simulation - split DI - Side B
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DI Tests - REDDI - wireless cable simulation
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Details:
- Recorder is a Zoom H6 solid state
- Raw files packaged with Presonus Studio One, NO EFFECTS applied other than a -1dB limiter to the master output bus (as mentioned, the standard wireless setting slightly overdrove the 2 Monique tracks, but not the REDDI)
- Monique rack mount has Demeter 800D power section
- "Cabled" means the bass was connected to the gear with high quality cables
- "Wireless" used a Line 6 G55
- "Wireless cable sim" used the G55 "Cable Tone" effect
- "Split DI" means I used an XLR female to dual-XLR male connector out of Monique's DI
- All DI connections used identical 25' XLR cables to the Zoom H6
Caveat: in the cabled tests, a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner ST-200 was in the chain. It was excluded during wireless tests. Sorry about that. The device has "true bypass" so don't make a big deal out of this one.
My impressions are that both of these DIs are superb. I wouldn't hesitate to use either in a critical recording situation. The recording quality with wireless is also very good, better than I though it would be. The non-sim wireless signal was hot compared to the cable sim setting; I left the Zoom H6's input volume the same as the wired settings so you can see how much hotter in a DAW. I liked the wireless cable simulator better than the non-sim setting. I also couldn't tell the difference in recording quality between plugging a single XLR into Monique's DI versus using the dual XLR splitter. The results are here so you can decide for yourself whether Monique or REDDI "won" the test. I like 'em both!
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Hi All!
Just wanted to drop a note to say how useful once again TalkBass.com has been for me in researching new gear. After reading through numerous threads and discussions regarding DI's, I've decided to go with the REDDI. I originally had intentions on getting the Avalon U5, until a friend recommended that I take a look at the REDDI. I started doing research and it seems like amongst bass players, the REDDI is the clear popular choice. Also, how it's been described in regards to the tone it provides to the FOH, is exactly what I want.
I will have it shortly and cannot wait to start using it on gigs and in the studio!
Thanks again fellow TalkBass.com members!
Cheers!
Just wanted to drop a note to say how useful once again TalkBass.com has been for me in researching new gear. After reading through numerous threads and discussions regarding DI's, I've decided to go with the REDDI. I originally had intentions on getting the Avalon U5, until a friend recommended that I take a look at the REDDI. I started doing research and it seems like amongst bass players, the REDDI is the clear popular choice. Also, how it's been described in regards to the tone it provides to the FOH, is exactly what I want.
I will have it shortly and cannot wait to start using it on gigs and in the studio!
Thanks again fellow TalkBass.com members!
Cheers!
svtb15
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We all love Pinos tone, we all don't have Pinos hands
The REDDI doesn't sound like you might think it would as a tube DI. There is no dirt, no grind like a tube amp. Its big, fat, clear, sits great in the mix. Killer DI.
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