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Reggae Bassists Club!!!!

I'm with you- technique trumps bass brand or style any day of the week! If you don't feel it or can't play the feel, the audience won't get it either, and there are very few basses out there that won't sound big and fat with a little coaxing, especially with modern rigs and PAs.
 
Here is a copied portion of a blog written by Andy Bassford, primarily a reggae guitsy, but also plays bass. He is a well respected musician and has played with many and knows his stuff. He is here: Link Removed
Pretty much all his blogs are worth reading for any musician regardless of genre.
I have never met him, but I respect his vibe and we recorded/played together on a song even tho we've never met...the wonders of the Internet knows no bounds...(Check out "All The Way In" on the "Here's To Love" CD by Link Removed to hear the song).
This blog lists Reggae Bassists who Andy knows/played with and is a very well written and informative piece.

".....So here it is: Reggae Bassists I Have Known!

The context: I was talking about how you can tell who is playing on a particular record in the absence of credits (more the rule than the exception), and the different stylistic and audio cues that may help, starting with Jackie Jackson, my Maytals bandmate and the architect of easily a third of the bass lines that get recycled.

Jackie says that he differs from all other reggae bassists in that his style is primarily rhythmic, rather than melodic. He tries to create bass lines that the listener can hum and to play the simplest thing possible. Jackie is also the only Jamaican bassist I've seen who regularly uses open strings other than the low E in his lines. His lines also tend to emphasize the downbeat, though this isn't always the case. Jackie also plays his lines as close to the nut as possible.

My old bandleader Lloyd Parks was inspired by Jackie, but his playing tends to be busier. Especially live, he drives the band like a great rock bassist, though he can play way behind the beat when he wants to. In his early work he explored the upper registers more than most reggae players, but moved away from that in the late seventies and early eighties.

Leroy Sibbles consciously modeled his style around not playing the downbeat, to help distinguish his playing from Jackie's. There is a tremendous forward motion in his lines, and he has a big, powerful sound.

Boris Gardiner's tone has a real elegance to it, and is a bit less less bottom-heavy. His lines also show a tremendous awareness of the harmonic climate around him. The notes are cleanly articulated.

Family Man is probably the most idiosyncratic bass player in the music. His feel is almost always behind the beat and his lines are quite melodic, often following the chorus of the song. He also uses the most quarter-note triplets. He plays with his right hand over the fingerboard where the strings are loosest, which also contributes to the way his playing feels.

Robbie Shakespeare was mentored by Family Man, and he started out sounding quite a bit like him. But he rapidly went his own way, and his right hand technique is very different. He generally plays with his thumb, with his palm resting lightly on the bridge to mute the strings slightly and improve the note definition. Robbie's lines, to me, hearken back to the rhumba box in mento music. He is not harmonically sophisticated, and his note choices don't always fit the chord. But his rhythmic imagination is incredible and his sound and feel are so strong that the lines work.

Ranchie McLean doesn't get the credit that he should have; a lot of the Seventies Channel One lines were played by him rather than Robbie. He's out of music now, but in his time he was a formidable player with an unfettered rhythmic imagination. Ranchie had a way of constantly evolving a line during a take while making the music feel like he was playing the exact same thing over and over.

Val Douglas has this same capability, coupled with serious chops and a deep knowledge of harmony. His playing has an elegance to it that is reminiscent of Boris Gardiner. Duggie is one of my absolute favorite bassists to play with. Though most reggae bassists would cite James Jamerson as a hero, Duggie strikes me as his truest heir, constantly innovating without ever losing sight of the instrument's function in the music. When Duggie really gets going, the instrument seems to become alive and move around in his hands like a funky snake.

I only got to work with Fully Fullwood once, but I saw him play many times with Word, Sound, and Power when Dennis Brown opened for Peter Tosh in 1983. Fully has a great attitude, a terrific feel, and is never at a loss when coming up with lines. Like Lloyd Parks, he's not afraid to play up the neck when it's called for, and was one of the busiest bassists on the scene until he emigrated to California, where he still plays. He played on much of the Bunny Lee and Niney stuff recorded in the seventies.

I played a lot with Flabba Holt when I first broke into the session scene in the early eighties with Roots Radics. Flabba plays with his thumb, like Robbie, but up over the fretboard, like Family Man. So he gets a deep, powerful sound with a laid-back feel. His lines are simple, like Jackie's, but his tone is very different. Flabba is primarily influenced by reggae itself, I think, rather than any particular bass player. He reminds me a bit of Bagga, one of Coxsone's bass players, with whom I also worked. Both are real street players who are all feel and have enough technique to get by.

I know I'm leaving some people out...Derrick Barnett, who I now work with regularly, was inspired by Boris Gardiner, though his playing is very different. Derrick can put it anywhere you want it, really knows harmony, has jazz chops to spare, and yet can play better dance hall one-note bass lines than anybody.

Courtney Panton, who I never see any more since he started a band with his kids and is working on world domination, is a super-solid player with immaculate time. Courtney started out as a hand drummer under the tutelage of Cedric Brooks, so he will kill you with binghi when the time is right. Also an excellent producer and great friend.

Of the younger players, I've worked most with Toots's son, Hopeton Hibbert. His playing comes out of Derrick's to me, and he has similar virtues. Hopeton's playing is tremendously aggressive and in-your-face, and like Derrick, he's a joy to watch on stage. But Hopeton can play late like Family Man when he wants to. Also like Derrick, he's an excellent singer.

I should also mention Hoover Simpson, who I've worked with as part of Super Cat's Wild Apache band and on his own gigs. Hoover is not a flashy player, but always seems to have something extra in his back pocket that he pulls out when it's called for. I particularly love how he plays better when more is at stake. He also sings well.

And I can't forget Benji Myaz, who I toured with as a Maytal for a summer. Benji is now, I think, best known as a singer, but he is a wondrous bass player. Tone and groove for days, fabulous chops, and a great sense of the whole of the music rather than just his part.

I haven't worked with Mikey Fletcher or Pablo Stennett, but I know they can play! Don't have anything specific to say about them beyond that...

In going back over this, I notice that nearly half of these bass players are also excellent singers. That couldn't be said of reggae guitarists, drummers, or keyboard players. I don't know what, if anything to make of this, except to observe that the coordination involved in playing a reggae bass line while singing (as opposed to playing rhythm guitar) is pretty frightening to contemplate. I certainly can't do it. And it must in some way affect their bass lines."
 
I have to reiterate here again, that while bass choice is an important consideration, there is no rule that says one must use a particular brand of bass to achieve a desired tone - even in reggae. Technique should not be discounted. If there were other basses available (or cheap enough for a bassist to buy back then) they would have bought it. It depends on what you want. Many people swear by Steinberger including Leroy Sibbles, Fully Fullwood and others. I've seen people back home locking it in DEEP with Sadowskys..It depends on what the player wants and how they play.
Because Fams does it, doesn't mean it's gospel (I'll stand back and let the flames fly!!). There's a pic of him playing a Hohner BBass on the forum. I play the BBassV, and I tested said Yamaha and Fenders and found them wanting and the Hohner was my choice. I don't regret it for a second.

I totally agree, one would have to be an idiot to think there is a rule. But as I think anyone who plays reggae should know how to make a bass sound as fat as possible techique wise, I didn't see any point into going there. And after that, pretty much any bass will do well. And if people were talking about which basses they use, those are my selections and those are the two ways I use them described in a way I think most people would understand. I'm in very similar situation like the people back in the day. I'm broke and there's very few decent basses around here. So obviously I chose the two I could afford and liked best of the available instruments, just like you did.

And the last place I look for an opinion on an instrument when thinking about buying one is an internet board. In fact any other place than what's between my ears would be the wrong spot to go to. If the instrument happens to be popular it's only a small minus. But as I can't afford and haven't found anything I liked better, I don't mind blending in.
 
My reason for even commenting is that too many people on this forum get caught up in brand names. I'm not questioning anyone's choice in what they choose or the reasons why they choose it. If I had that kind of control, everyone would be playing Steinberger basses....
I WILL say that not everybody who plays reggae will know how to get the tone out of their bass. It's just the way of the world.
In no way was I denigrating your comment. It was not clear (to me anyway) from your post that those are YOUR instruments.
We're on the same page; at least I think so.
 
Count me in. I'm in 2 Reggae bands. Guns of Navarone, which is ska and reggae and Dreadrocks which is roots reggae with some ska.
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Link Removed I use an old Fender P or a Fender Jazz. Both have GHS flats on them. Although I used to use very old GHS Boomers and they sounded great too. Tone knob turned almost off. Little Mark head and 2 Bergantino 12 inch cabs.

At practice last week they guys asked me to make sure I turn up nice and loud at the gigs. How can you not love playing a style of music that requires the bass to be so prominent in the mix?
 
Guess I should pipe up. Though I am a dabbler of a bass player reggae is most of what I am playing. But let me back up: I played guitar as a kid, put it away in my 20s, came back to it in my 40s (!) with a much more serious attitude, and got a whole lot better. Mainly this was through classes at Chicago's Old Town School of Folk Music, where I worked on everything from old-school soul to jazz to Carter family country, learning bits and pieces throughout.

Though I never did anything about it, I had always been 'bass curious,' and secretly thought that the bassists had some of the coolest parts in my favorite songs, esp funk.

So sometime last year I decided to jump in--like a lot of middle aged guys I realized it was getting to be 'now or never' time. I picked up an SX Jazz style, a little Acoustic practice amp, and some books. Also I started looking at TB and the many useful videos on youtube. (MarloweDK rules!)

At Old Town School I joined the Reggae Ensemble, which is a class/band that meets for about eight weeks. Honestly I'm not even that big a reggae fan, but the teacher/leader of that group is awesome, and I had already played lead guitar in the group for a year or two. I had a blast on bass. Tunes like Marley's 'Caution' are even more fun on bass than on lead!

Then other musical interests took over for a while and I put my bass down for several months. Picked it up a month or so ago as the teacher of the Reggae Ensemble asked me back. It took about a day to get back to where I'd been and I'm now playing an hour + a day, as it is so much fun. I even tried my hand at writing a funk tune on bass...not exactly Bootsy but it's not too bad!

The ensemble is doing okay, not as well as the lineup we used to have with male/female singers. We have only a short repertoire which includes 'Stir It Up,' 'Pressure Drop,' 'Johnny Too Bad,' 'Marcus Garvey,' possibly a few more by the end of the session. But I think I'll stick with it in future sessions; it's a great musical workout.

More power to the low end!
 
Bassist for The Island Swings. Website soon. We're mostly acoustic with me playing electric. About 25 % of our material is 'resort reggae' with another 25% in western swing and the other 50 in blues, reels, standards and straight up swing. Needless to say the reggae part is my fav - but it's all about the beat.

For the most part we're taking the old Marley (Bob, Rita and Ziggy), Peter Tosh, Dennis Brown, Ken Boothe stuff and working it into the acoustic format. Lightweight in comparison to the heavier Tosh, Burning Spear, Black Uhuru, etc but hey - it's a start. My singer and second guitarist Polly lived on Jamaica for about 10 years off and on - she's got the feel of it in her bones ... last night we worked up Jackson Brown's Everywhere I go - like I said 'resort reggae' - to get the work in these parts we kinda have to tone down the uber-political, ganga thing - sad to say but it's the age old quandry 'if a reggae band falls in the forest and there is no one to hear it... did it fall ?'

Another from the mine is John Hiatt / Little Village - 'Do you want my job ?' - at least that one get's a little of the political side across.

Right now the Island Swings is a trio but soon - we'll add percussion. Instead of the traditional trap kit, I'm looking for conga, timbale's, afusche etc ... something that won't step all over the acoustic nature of what we do.

I'm working on the website now (well later actually) and some MP3's so you can get an idea of what seems to work in my parts.
 
oh yeah, gear wise... 75 RI J with Thomastic Super Alloy Rounds and Vintage Vibes with a slight overwind & Alnico magnets - really punchy and really 'earthy' for something with rounds. At rehearsal last night it was a GK 1001 RBII and Avatar 2x12. Sounded great. Not my rig though...

Normally it's my Godin Acoustibass with TI flats. Big, woody, lot's of bloom - electric but reaching for URB - works like dynamite for this stuff. Higher volume, I'll use a pair of J's. 62 RI with flats and the 75 RI with rounds. The woody bloom, isn't going to cut through at volume. My normal rig is a WT-800 and a 2x15 setup. Biamped with a co-ax 15 on top and 'bare' 15 on the lows. Small but effective. We do a lot of real low volume stuff where an EA Micro 300 and Avatar 1x12 is getting the job done.

Currently I'm experimenting with a Godin A4 and Roland GR-20. it's a little tricky but early in the game so who knows. In my fingerstyle, I often whack the next lower string and use that as a ghost note - no drums so I'm getting a little more rhythm that way. Well - you can throw that out the window with the synth. There I use a pick as you have to be super clean and articulate. For the most part the latency down low makes things unusable for my style, so I'm transposing the patches an octave down and playing lines higher up the neck. It's a little weird and definately a work in progress. Time will tell is this is useful or not...
 
Bassist for The Island Swings. Website soon. We're mostly acoustic with me playing electric. About 25 % of our material is 'resort reggae' with another 25% in western swing and the other 50 in blues, reels, standards and straight up swing. Needless to say the reggae part is my fav - but it's all about the beat.

Welcome!

Wow, sounds like your band has a nice vibe.

I'd like to check out your work when you get the website going.

Peace. :bassist:
 
I AM IN! Been waiting for a club like this since I joined TB in 01'! Although my main gig for the past year and a half has been on the R&B/Hip-Hop vibe I picked up the bass in 96' BECAUSE of the love for Roots & Dance Hall Reggae...

Bands: Last Trumpet (original roots & dance hall), We A Dem Band (originals and backing unit in the NorCal/Bay Area) - original bassie for this unit but my cousin has been holdin it down for this wicked crew for the past 2 years.

Gear: I will agree with several folks here that gear is just a tool for Reggae and no specific bass is best suited for this passionate music. I've used Fender, Ibanez, Pedulla, Warwick, Zon, Cirrus, Roscoe, Fbass the list goes on and they all got the job done. I would say, play what YOU can afford and are comfortable with and COMMIT to the Riddem like no other! An artist once told me "if ya cyan't hold a bassline for 5 minutes non-stop without changing...don't play the bass"... I also agree that FEEL runs this genre big time. Technique can only help but If ya ain't feelin it, chances are the rest of the band and the audience aren't either! For the most part when I was only playing Reggae I used a GK700RBII Head with SWR 210's & 115. That wasn't easy on the back so now I use a very light set-up: Markbass LMII head with 2 Bergantino AE112's. Have not had a chance to play a full blown reggae show with this set-up but hoping to do so in the near future! Thanks again for gettin this club rolling. Give thanks!
 
man its so hard to get a freaking reggae band together or land a reggae gig!

this dude responded to my craiglist ad, and said he had full band, tight drummer, front man/percussion, a MC, 2 guitarists and 3 person horn section just needed bassist...


so i find the email.. imediately call the dude! and i'm like a few hours too late, he already promised to give this other dude who is a "flake" but a killer bassist a shot... DAMNIT! I'm not a 'killer bassist' but i'm a roots reggae bassist who is super dedicated and can run riddims all day and night and am not a flake! damnit.... hope that dude flakes out!!!