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#841
That’s beautiful, is the top stained maple? Can you say what each one of the controls are in the layout? The controls sound very versatile, very cool! Congrats again, you have some awesome noise makers, and have fun!
 
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#842
RVBASS said:
That’s beautiful, is the top stained maple? Can you say what each one of the controls are in the layout? The controls sound very versatile, very cool! Congrats again, you have some awesome noise makers, and have fun!
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Yep, I'd call this a tobacco-burst on flame/quilted maple, full-gloss finish and double-binding are Deluxe features. Standard for Model One is mahogany body, rock maple neck with graphite reinforcement. Not sure about the headstock veneer. Might be koa... I don't think maple though.

On the controls:

V= Volume
P= Pan or Blend
T= Tone (I think it's an active treble)
!
F/Q= Frequency parameter setting (works like a sweep)
B/C= Boost/Cut (with a center detent for what I assume is 'flat', or 0 dB.)

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The little red exclamation point (!) turned on an angle is a switch that bypasses both of these knobs. The easiest way I found to explore its potential was by isolating to either the magnetic or the piezo with the Pan function, engage the switch, (by the way, this is what the red LED indicates... light is on, you are in whoop-ass mode) set the Filter/EQ sweep somewhere, then slowly rotate the Boost/Cut pot. Rinse and repeat at different frequency settings. I think Rick says somewhere it'll do everything from "Whales to Bats", and if you have a rig that can handle those kinds of extremes, and you can appreciate it, then it's definitely there. I don't need the crazy extreme stuff, but this thing can do a very, very brittle high end and a very, very pillow-y low end. Getting where you want to be in between is just a matter of playing with it and understanding what the controls do, but it is not a simple circuit.

If you need a quick and dirty, flip that switch, and you're instantly down to Volume/Tone/Pan. It is possible to hard-pan to either source, piezo or magnetic, so you're only dealing with two knobs. Only one option gets easier than that!

*I'm posting this with the disclaimer that I've had 6 hours of contact time with these controls. I'm probably NOT calling things what they are supposed to be. Consider these to be first impressions and theories.
 
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#843
That’s a very helpful description, I have been wondering what each knob controlled. Have P, T, and V, but I think I could make good use of the F/Q, and ! Switch, and possibly the B/C. Does the B/C act like a CVQ? I will inquire with RT about having them added to my bass. Thanks!
 
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RVBASS said:
Does the B/C act like a CVQ? I will inquire with RT about having them added to my bass.
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Not exactly, but sort of like that. I tried to think of it as half of a Series II circuit, and it just isn't. If you have ever played with a parametric equalizer, it works kinda' like the bandpass function on our SF-2 (my Mesa WalkAbout has one, but coincidentally my first experience was with a D-Tar Equinox, Duncan-Turner Acoustic Research) it was a 3-band parametric equalizer preamp, with 2 additional notch filters. Here's an old MF ad for one...

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/dtar-equinox-parametric-equalizer-preamp

Anyway, my take on that switched circuit is that it works like one band of one of these, but specifically designed for a set of applicable frequencies, not completely unlike the lowpass filters on our Series basses.

Man, I hope I'm not misrepresentin'... gettin' in waaaay over my raisin' here! :roflmao:
 
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OK, I see, after looking at the D-tar in the link it looks like the B/C and FQ work together...set the frequency you want to affect and use the B/C control to cut or boost the selected frequency (or frequency range). It’s like the eq on an Eden 550 amp I had a number of years ago. As you noted I can get at that with my SF-2, but might be nice to have onboard the bass since I don’t always use the SF-2. Thanks for the further explanation, that helps!
 
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#846
RVBASS said:
set the frequency you want to affect and use the B/C control to cut or boost the selected frequency (or frequency range)...
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Bingo. RT will explain it much better than I ever could, but essentially yes, this is what that section does... boost or cut the selected frequency range. It's tricky to learn how to use, but there's that *Ohhhh.... that's what it does!* moment when you get it. Then you figure out how to get where you want to be with it.

**and FWIW, when I first started testing with it, I ran only into my F-1X preamp and on to the amp from there. I'll do some more tweaking with the SF-2 after I've finished getting my head around what all the onboard electronics will do. :wacky:
 
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#847
EdwardofHuncote said:
C'mon man... and bring your M.K. Elfin witcha'. And a 4004. And that super-sweet double cutaway custom Martin OM. And... that sexy little Japanese number too, iffn' you got room. :D
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I'll check with her if she wants to ride in the hatch, need the front passenger seat for the martin! :thumbsup: :smug: BTW, she's ABC (American born Chinese).
 
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#848
RVBASS said:
FenderP, sounds like a Walter Woods amp would be perfect for what you described although a little pricey. Maybe check out the Acoustic Image Clarous Amps, they have two channels with separate eq and outputs, light weight, and are reasonably priced.
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I actually have a Euphonic Audio iAmp Doubler that I'm waiting to pair with a speaker that is on order. I was looking at the WW stuff but the iAmp doubler was a recommended, well regarded, and cheaper - option. As an all-in-one, the Henriksen is good. I've been using it for awhile and handles both the RA and my P basses. The AI stuff tends not to do as well with electric basses from everything I've read so I ruled them out.
 
#850
Jeff Scott said:
BTW, she's ABC (American born Chinese)
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Doh! :facepalm: That Talus is beautiful guitar. I saw Yamamoto and assumed Japanese. Here's what I remember - Cocobolo sides and back & Pawlonia top. :D

I meant to tell you, the ol' gal that recently did the startup on our new Water Plant for Suez/GE Water Technologies was from up your way... she got stuck in Roanoke back in March when things started getting locked down for the virus. Man she was a tuff bird. It occurred to me one morning, she had her hair tied back with a length of 16 ga. wire... Southern Ohio ain't far removed from Northern West Virginia. She finally did get home, and we got set up so she could remote into my Plant's PLC and finish a few things up.
 
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EdwardofHuncote said:
Doh! :facepalm: That Talus is beautiful guitar. I saw Yamamoto and assumed Japanese. Here's what I remember - Cocobolo sides and back & Pawlonia top. :D

I meant to tell you, the ol' gal that recently did the startup on our new Water Plant for Suez/GE Water Technologies was from up your way... she got stuck in Roanoke back in March when things started getting locked down for the virus. Man she was a tuff bird. It occurred to me one morning, she had her hair tied back with a length of 16 ga. wire... Southern Ohio ain't far removed from Northern West Virginia. She finally did get home, and we got set up so she could remote into my Plant's PLC and finish a few things up.
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The Talus *and the MS-12) are indeed of Japanese talent, but made east of San Francisco, in Dublin. Tsuneyuki is now retired and back in Japan. The third Asian is my SO and is Chinese (MIA, though).

16 ga. wire... Southern Ohio - figures. Around here, in NEO they use barbed wire for such dainty details.
 
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#858
There it is!

I finally got some plug-in time today too. :bassist:

Been working on the bass part to James Taylor's "Whenever I See Your Smiling Face". I guess it's that Lee Sklar's lines are just so dang perfectly constructed, but man, that thing is a mental workout for me.

As an aside, I'm kinda' wanting to put some T-I PowerBass Rounds on my fretted Electroline 5. :whistle:

T-I PowerBass.jpg
:greedy::greedy::greedy::greedy::greedy:
 
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Gougedeye said:
Greetings. I have noticed that some RB models have "Renaissance" script in the body and some do not. Is there some difference in the models?
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There are differences between the Standard, Special, and Deluxe models, but I have seen all three with, or without the Renaissance brand decal. I don't see it listed in the specs.[Invalid or Expired Link Removed].

My Custom fretless doesn't have one, but it was made for the Winter 2013 NAMM Show.

LaMarDel Fuego_RB-5.jpg


The fretted RB-5 Special does, for whatever reason.
 
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