So, I guess being in big time successful band is not all it's cracked up to be but, I would love to find out
Roger Waters Pink Floyd website - Bing
Roger Waters Pink Floyd website - Bing
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Roger Waters
- Thread starter tgriley62
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I know it was Roger's (and Nick's) band originally, but he left. In 1985. 35 years ago.
I'd say arguably he has a bigger social media presence under his own name now and hardly needs the official Floyd site to publicise whatever he's up to.
If this came up here in a Band Management post, most of us would advise him to just move on, life's too short for this sort of nonsense.
I'd say arguably he has a bigger social media presence under his own name now and hardly needs the official Floyd site to publicise whatever he's up to.
If this came up here in a Band Management post, most of us would advise him to just move on, life's too short for this sort of nonsense.
Well, it was Syd's band originally, but yeah. Always been a huge PF fan, never been a Roger fan though.
Granted Roger was a founding member but it was his choice to walk away, and after this long of time I'm suprised he still wants to be part of the Floyd, I mean he's done pretty well for himself all these years as a solo act.
The guy sure wasn't very friendly...
I'm no fan either. The way he treated other Floyd's members is properly shameful.
Still, the pros and cons of hitchhiking is a fantastic album!
Much better than radio chaos...
IMHO
I'm no fan either. The way he treated other Floyd's members is properly shameful.
Still, the pros and cons of hitchhiking is a fantastic album!
Much better than radio chaos...
IMHO
Roger is certainly not one to cross but I lost interest in Floyd after he left. Floyd seemed to become very safe coffee table music thereafter.
Maybe if he learned to play the instrument?
I'm a fan of PF, basically from Meddle forwards, though I don't care for The Final Cut. Waters certainly showed a great deal of talent as a songwriter during the 1970s but it sure seems like he thought he was the entire band and he, to this day, comes off as a right proper git, to be British about it.
Seriously, man, let it go. You quit, remember?
Seriously, man, let it go. You quit, remember?
Rodger lives by the feud.
From the outside looking in, and just a guess, though the way this lines up, I may possibly be right in some ways:
That Gilmour can ban him from 'official' Pink Floyd online (or print, video, etc.) would tell me that as a business entity, aside from royalties from songwriting or performances, or any other stipulations in place when Waters and the rest of the band went separate ways at that time, he has no legal say in the band after that, may have been bought out, etc. Legally, he's on the outside looking in would be my guess: Otherwise, he would have some say, some presence, etc., you'd be able to buy RW stuff in their online store, etc. Now all he can really do is bitch about it, probably 'till he draws his last breath.
These things happen. The oft-repeated Journey BEHIND THE MUSIC episode with Steve Perry complaining more than once that he somehow just 'never felt he was part of the band' could very well mean that he was paid as a sideman and never extended a piece of group ownership. Zeppelin was owned 100% by Richard Grant and Jimmy Page, so when I hear about how Robert would never come back, it's not hard to assume why. Grant passed, and now Jimmy owns it lock, stock, and barrel. These sorts of things go on quietly, and are one more part of signing contracts with occasionally lifelong consequences without benefit of experience, sobriety, or counsel. This is how a lot of famous bands wind in court with their new lawyers fighting their old deal(s).
And in a new world where so many of the former revenue streams are gone, and now even touring, where The Stones, McCartney, and so many older artists live on the road because of it at their age, is off line. It's just tough times for The Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless.
That Gilmour can ban him from 'official' Pink Floyd online (or print, video, etc.) would tell me that as a business entity, aside from royalties from songwriting or performances, or any other stipulations in place when Waters and the rest of the band went separate ways at that time, he has no legal say in the band after that, may have been bought out, etc. Legally, he's on the outside looking in would be my guess: Otherwise, he would have some say, some presence, etc., you'd be able to buy RW stuff in their online store, etc. Now all he can really do is bitch about it, probably 'till he draws his last breath.
These things happen. The oft-repeated Journey BEHIND THE MUSIC episode with Steve Perry complaining more than once that he somehow just 'never felt he was part of the band' could very well mean that he was paid as a sideman and never extended a piece of group ownership. Zeppelin was owned 100% by Richard Grant and Jimmy Page, so when I hear about how Robert would never come back, it's not hard to assume why. Grant passed, and now Jimmy owns it lock, stock, and barrel. These sorts of things go on quietly, and are one more part of signing contracts with occasionally lifelong consequences without benefit of experience, sobriety, or counsel. This is how a lot of famous bands wind in court with their new lawyers fighting their old deal(s).
And in a new world where so many of the former revenue streams are gone, and now even touring, where The Stones, McCartney, and so many older artists live on the road because of it at their age, is off line. It's just tough times for The Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless.
Most artists just want to create , they sign stuff along the way they may or may not fully understand and years down the road they dont get what they thought they had coming usually resulting in animosity toward some thing or someone. The devils always in the details.
Frank Zappa was a very sharp guy when it came to business and touring, I saw a piece on youtube or somewhere that he discussed the ins and outs of navigating the biz and the financial and logistics of taking a band of hired musicians on the road, the man ran a tight ship.
Frank Zappa was a very sharp guy when it came to business and touring, I saw a piece on youtube or somewhere that he discussed the ins and outs of navigating the biz and the financial and logistics of taking a band of hired musicians on the road, the man ran a tight ship.
Lol Eric the Clown. Some of Jon Favreau's best work.
Always loved PF, then only Rodger, now they really all seem to be complete D.B.'s
Well, he needed to be! He didn't sell as many records as Zeppelin, he couldn't spend money as frivolously, on hotels and hookers and black magic, as Zeppelin!
He may have made as much, didn't he make like 113 albums? Doesn't mean he had to live like dum dums on the road. LOL!
