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S/D Bassists #86 - Dollar Tree Romance
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I use Bill Me Later for most of my purchases and use the 6 months same as cash, and always make sure I pay at least 1/6 of the total amount every month. If you have reliable and consistent income it is pretty convenient.
you need to learn your scales first. dont try playing chords without understanding how they are built. once you get the scales down, the chords become second nature. do you know your major/minor scale and know them all over the fretboard?
i struggle with this. i know my scales in the "standard" postion but i am terrible at using scales in multiple positions during a riff/run or playing the scale on 1 string instead of 3 or 4 strings. I know it wouldn't take too much to learn but i just don't have the patience these days. trial and error seems more appealing to me for now.
It is a pretty sweet deal, I used it for one or two things last year. Pretty good system they've got going.
Once you learn the non open string paterns for each type of scale, you can just move it around.
that I can do. it's things like the D minor scale on the 5th fret of the A string. I can play the scale going up and down between that fret and the 7th fret on the G string. but playing a D minor scale below the 5th fret is tricky for me because the physical pattern is not the same.
just continue playing down the fretboard like you would when you come down the scale from the position above it. you only run out of space at the 3rd fret (G). F and E are the next two and then youre done haha.
Ah gotcha. This is one of the reasons I love my 5 string. I can play in D from the third fret on the B string.
scales are for fat women.
More stories about my head in the sand. I've tried to learn scales, but I always go, "Oh! I knew that already, just didn't know the name. Well shvt, I don't care about the name!" then I put the learning on hold.
When I hear a guitar riff my brain instantly says, "play this riff" and my hands have been on guitar/bass long enough to go, "you mean here?" and then my riff comes pouring out. It's worked well enough and long enough that I have abandoned learning theory all together.
It's my cup 'o tea and it's sweet enough.
More stories about my head in the sand. I've tried to learn scales, but I always go, "Oh! I knew that already, just didn't know the name. Well shvt, I don't care about the name!" then I put the learning on hold.
When I hear a guitar riff my brain instantly says, "play this riff" and my hands have been on guitar/bass long enough to go, "you mean here?" and then my riff comes pouring out. It's worked well enough and long enough that I have abandoned learning theory all together.
It's my cup 'o tea and it's sweet enough.
Good MDT practice last night. Ran through our set list for Friday's gig and worked a little on a new tune. I'm not usually one to share demos of stuff in-progress, but I was amazed at how well this turned out as a smartphone recording! Zeus must've smiled on our amp placement and levels.
I like giving weird working titles to songs. Sometimes they stick.
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-hussein-moss/turkish-delight/s-xX3uU
The whammy is always fun, especially when it's not just a noisemaker and actually adds something to the song.
I like giving weird working titles to songs. Sometimes they stick.
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-hussein-moss/turkish-delight/s-xX3uU
The whammy is always fun, especially when it's not just a noisemaker and actually adds something to the song.
Whoa, slow thread and actual theory discussion?! What's going on here? Has the rest of TB actually infiltrated us?
I know my scales, and I know my fretboard (in standards anyway - I can figure alternate tunings out from there). I always felt like I had a better understanding of theory than I do a working knowledge of it. Particularly when it comes to modes. I've gone through them all, and taught myself, Even used flashcards and other learning techniques, but I always find myself playing them and understanding them differently.
For Example: C Ionian; CDEFGAB. vs C Dorian: DEFGABC I know the technical differences, but when I have a bass in my hand I tend to think of this as... Ok still C, but we start on the second and use the upper octave. Or I like to think of it as a D scale with a sharp 3rd and sharp 7th.
- Is that all there is to it? Are they really just antiquated Jazz references? Do I have to commit them tore thoroughly to my memory to really get it?... No Idea
All and all, I've learned to trust me ears and really don't play with too many people who fluently use this language. I've also learned that keeping my tuner plugged in while writing my riffs can be a super helpful tool to ensure that I'm grabbing the notes I want, notes that are in key, or just the ones that sound the best.
Just my 2 cents.
I know my scales, and I know my fretboard (in standards anyway - I can figure alternate tunings out from there). I always felt like I had a better understanding of theory than I do a working knowledge of it. Particularly when it comes to modes. I've gone through them all, and taught myself, Even used flashcards and other learning techniques, but I always find myself playing them and understanding them differently.
For Example: C Ionian; CDEFGAB. vs C Dorian: DEFGABC I know the technical differences, but when I have a bass in my hand I tend to think of this as... Ok still C, but we start on the second and use the upper octave. Or I like to think of it as a D scale with a sharp 3rd and sharp 7th.
- Is that all there is to it? Are they really just antiquated Jazz references? Do I have to commit them tore thoroughly to my memory to really get it?... No Idea
All and all, I've learned to trust me ears and really don't play with too many people who fluently use this language. I've also learned that keeping my tuner plugged in while writing my riffs can be a super helpful tool to ensure that I'm grabbing the notes I want, notes that are in key, or just the ones that sound the best.
Just my 2 cents.
C ionian (major) is the same as D dorian, not C dorian.
C major = D dorian = E phrygian = F lydian = G mixolydian = A minor = B locrian - all the same scale, just starting on a different root. this is why if you know a major scale, you pretty much know everything, you just dont know you do yet haha.
and theory is good to know so you know what youre playing. its like knowing the alphabet then learning how to read. you understand things a lot better when you have a solid foundation, and you will understand why songs go where they go, or what someone was attempting to do with their notes (for the most part, its drugs for the rest lol).
I've been trying to improve my theory recently. Helps to be able to pick beebass's brain. I never had trouble learning any subject, but for some reason music theory is really slow moving for me.
I learned all that theory back in elementary through high school orchestra, but I didn't listen in class so now my body knows theory but my head doesnt. I just let my hands do what they've always been doing while I keep kicking myself in the head for not listening.
Moral of the story, LISTEN IN CLASS KIDS MMMmmm'kay?
Moral of the story, LISTEN IN CLASS KIDS MMMmmm'kay?
S'up, kids? With the heavy winter, I've been absolutely buried at work. Besides that, not a heck of a lot happening with me.
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
Yes I know the major scale and it's modes and how that relates to chord theory and to chord progressions. But I tend to use the intervals as my master template way of thinking going through the chords. I am trying to be better about learning all the notes of the scale possible in any position to and find it helps to think of modes this way too. Since I can think difference of the Minor Scale compared to the Major as a flat 3rd flat 6th and flat 7th intervals, I tend to just think I am starting on the 6 scale degree of the major scale and just count 6, 7, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
I guess since I play guitar too I want to have down the major scale and minor scale chord progressions(thinking that would cover most styles of music I dig, I get the Natural, Harmonic, and Melodic thing but not thinking I am going to rolling out or thinking in terms jazz to need to know the mods of the different minor scales, doubt I will be dropping super locrians out there LOL)
I ii iii IV V vi dim VIII
then take this to the minor scale and get chord theory down enough to match the chords/chord tones /modes back to them.
I have a bit of a mental block jumping/skipping strings when I build chords I want to play on guitar, example would be wanting to find that find minor 9th for instance faster and in different inversions.
Trying to not overwhelm myself with theory but understand enough of the major and natural minor scale and their modes and to build chords from them.
Sorry if this random and I am a layman to music theory and I am writing this on my smart phone during a migraine. Very excited to see some theory talk on here, very helpful to me, and I don't like the theory threads on TB the usual jump someone's crap over music theory like jumping someone for buying a Squier kind of thing.
