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Sadowsky MetroExpress

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rzeoli

Jan 1, 2025
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I just bought this metro-express and I love it, however, this inert for the pickup screw keeps popping out. Any recommendations on re securing it?

I know they make several types of epoxy and adhesives that i can use, I'm concerned that if I put too much and fill the hole, the screw wont pass through once cured and I don't want to start drilling a hole in a week old bass...thanks!!
 

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rzeoli said:
I just bought this metro-express and I love it, however, this inert for the pickup screw keeps popping out. Any recommendations on re securing it?

I know they make several types of epoxy and adhesives that i can use, I'm concerned that if I put too much and fill the hole, the screw wont pass through once cured and I don't want to start drilling a hole in a week old bass...thanks!!
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Send it back and get one that does not have this issue.
 
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If you don’t know what you’re doing take it to someone who does. It’s a new Sadowsky!

If that thing is threaded some wood shim like a toothpick can tighten the hole. Or wood glue and some saw dust and tighten it back up.

I’d keep away from non wood products on wood but I’m only a hobby woodworker with a credit card.

Keeping the screw in the anchor when reattaching can be helpful to keep the threads clear. Ever try and clear a 4-40 tapped hole that isn’t thru?
 
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I would go the super glue route. Also….

Use the “gel” kind of glue. Easier to control where you want it to go. Use a toothpick to put the glue exactly where you need it. Agreed about keeping the screw in the insert. Good call, @meisi.

The instructions say to give it a few minutes to set and be ready to use. I don’t know any better, but no harm in giving the glue 1/2-hour or so to cure. It goes without saying, you wanna do this repair once….😁.

Good luck!
 
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rzeoli said:
I just bought this metro-express and I love it, however, this inert for the pickup screw keeps popping out. Any recommendations on re securing it?

I know they make several types of epoxy and adhesives that i can use, I'm concerned that if I put too much and fill the hole, the screw wont pass through once cured and I don't want to start drilling a hole in a week old bass...thanks!!
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Ooh, that sucks!. I think the repair depends on how much if any damage there is to where that piece is supposed to go. I understand your concern about getting glue on the inside of that piece (Anchor) that will prevent the mounting screw going in properly. I think if you put a very small piece painters tape on the bottom and top of the anchor before applying adhesive should keep it clean. Once it sets up, remove the tape from the top. The screw will just break through the bottom as the screw is tightened.

Before you do anything, I would check the depth of the hole where that screw goes. If the screw is longer than the depth, that may be the reason that anchor came out .

Best wishes.
 
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Hillie said:
I would not use glue, because it's pretty permanent and if you need to break the screw out, you've got a bigger hole.

Go with a bit of toothpick, or something like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Mr-Grip-Screw-Hole-Repair-Kit-8-Pack-801724/204273767

I've had a pack of this stuff for over a decade and I use small strips in worn out screw holes with much success.
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That kit is pretty cool, haven't seen that. However.....

The issue in question here is not a wood screw with a stripped hole. It's a threaded insert that has pulled out of the hole. Usually not as deep as a wood screw.

I still stand by the gel version of the superglue repair. I'm by no means an expert on screw hole repair, but I've used super glue for worn wood screw holes in piano repair for many years. And the idea is that I don't want the screw or threaded insert to come out again, ever.
 
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That's very common on those. Happened on mine the first day I had it. A little wood or super glue on the insert will do it. Just use it sparingly and be real careful to not get any glue on the threads. Let it dry thoroughly
 
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Geri O said:
That kit is pretty cool, haven't seen that. However.....

The issue in question here is not a wood screw with a stripped hole. It's a threaded insert that has pulled out of the hole. Usually not as deep as a wood screw.

I still stand by the gel version of the superglue repair. I'm by no means an expert on screw hole repair, but I've used super glue for worn wood screw holes in piano repair for many years. And the idea is that I don't want the screw or threaded insert to come out again, ever.
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Ah crap, missed the insert part. In that case I'd try to restore the insert as well and the less runny the adhesive, the easier it is to avoid getting it inside the insert.
 
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This is an unneeded solution to a problem that never existed. Putting threaded inserts into a wooden guitar when a wood screw would’ve done the job perfectly well. Just throw the screw away, throw the insert away, and put a damn wood screw in it and call it a day. I guess Warwick is still having issues with quality on these Chinese Sadowsky’s . I had a brand new Chinese modern, the machine screws would back out of the inserts while on a gig. The pick up would raise up out of the body muting the strings. All because Warwick chose to put machine screws where a wood screw would have done the job perfectly well.
 
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I'd also simply super glue or epoxy it.

BUT!!!! I'd remove the screw, coat the end that goes in the insert with vaseline, put it back, then glue it. Once the glue dries / cures, remove the screw and clean off the vaseline with alcohol, paint thinner, or nail polish remover, whatever you have.

Epoxy and super glue will not stick to vaseline. The coated screw in place during gluing will prevent anything from fouling the threads or sticking the screw in place.
 
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pb9717 said:
This is an unneeded solution to a problem that never existed. Putting threaded inserts into a wooden guitar when a wood screw would’ve done the job perfectly well. Just throw the screw away, throw the insert away, and put a damn wood screw in it and call it a day. I guess Warwick is still having issues with quality on these Chinese Sadowsky’s . I had a brand new Chinese modern, the machine screws would back out of the inserts while on a gig. The pick up would raise up out of the body muting the strings. All because Warwick chose to put machine screws where a wood screw would have done the job perfectly well.
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I think the use metal inserts for screws is done because many will see it is higher quality than a simple wood screw, and selling stuff is often just as much about perception as reality.
 

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