I got the original bass driver a week ago and I love it. I tried it out at GC on a weak combo amp and it made it sound good. I bought it and it made my rig sound even better I love the tone and it is simple to use. It made my amp sound like it grew a extra set of balls no remorse on this purchase. I was looking to warm up my tone and it did, nice tube sound in a little pedal IMO
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Sansamp Tech 21 Bass Driver DI
- Thread starter jlt5x
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Hello
The Deluxe looks nice, maybe a little excessive for what I need it for though.
Which to go for? BDDI or PBDDI? What difference does no parallel out mean? Is it for desks that use the parallel only? Its £20 difference in price in UK...so if the PDDI is the same, and the parallel out is something i dont have to worry about, then ill go PBDDI.
Help?
The Deluxe looks nice, maybe a little excessive for what I need it for though.
Which to go for? BDDI or PBDDI? What difference does no parallel out mean? Is it for desks that use the parallel only? Its £20 difference in price in UK...so if the PDDI is the same, and the parallel out is something i dont have to worry about, then ill go PBDDI.
Help?
The PDDI sounds different from the BDDI.
The BDDI is essentially the floor pedal version of the RBI (but with no mid control)
The PDDI is essentially the floor pedal version of the RPM
The parallel out on the BDDI gives the same signal you put in. So its basically bypassing the effect of the BDDI. For if you want to use the BDDI sound on the stage, but have a clean bass sound going to the front of house.
The BDDI is essentially the floor pedal version of the RBI (but with no mid control)
The PDDI is essentially the floor pedal version of the RPM
The parallel out on the BDDI gives the same signal you put in. So its basically bypassing the effect of the BDDI. For if you want to use the BDDI sound on the stage, but have a clean bass sound going to the front of house.
Yay! Yet another Sansamp thread. That being said I have the programmable and love it when I use it (I get lazy since I play at church every week and don't feel like lugging my pedals). However, I really need to make a note or something to stick to the backside so I know what settings were on there last. I like having two channels set for a cleaner sound and a grittier sound, but I'm sure I could live with just the regular BDDI or the Para.
The Sansamp is supposed to emulate a good tube amp, so putting it in front of one seems kind of pointless to me.
The Sansamp is supposed to emulate a good tube amp, so putting it in front of one seems kind of pointless to me.
I meant the programmable BDDI...and the BDDI...which ones should I choose?
I think the Para Driver isnt for me.
Thanks for the help
I think the Para Driver isnt for me.
Thanks for the help
When I had my regular BDDI, I never used the parallel out...FWIW.
If you change tones (or would like to) then spend the extra for the programmable feature. If you are a set and forget player, then get the basic.
If you change tones (or would like to) then spend the extra for the programmable feature. If you are a set and forget player, then get the basic.
I owned both the non programable and the programable versions and they sounded exactly the same. The option to store three presets is very cool because the unit is capable of achieving some very different tones. I never got bored tweaking this think and I usually don't like to tweak.
I would have one patch set to be a very subtle warm tone with only a little drive and blended about 50%. Then a second channel set to the SVT settings from the manual which gives a scooped but very cool tone. Then I had a heavy overdrive patch set up which was fun as well.
All that being said, I liked the simpler non programable version for just tweaking as you can see where the knobs are set just by looking at them. With the three chanel unit, you have to move each knob until the light flashes a certain way to know where its set. This is a minor pain but can get iritating after awhile.
So there are slight pros and cons for each unit. If you think you will only ever use one sound from the pedal and will have it sitting on top of your amp, then go for the original version. If you are going to keep the unit on the floor and switch between three presets, then obviously the programable version is the one for you!
I would have one patch set to be a very subtle warm tone with only a little drive and blended about 50%. Then a second channel set to the SVT settings from the manual which gives a scooped but very cool tone. Then I had a heavy overdrive patch set up which was fun as well.
All that being said, I liked the simpler non programable version for just tweaking as you can see where the knobs are set just by looking at them. With the three chanel unit, you have to move each knob until the light flashes a certain way to know where its set. This is a minor pain but can get iritating after awhile.
So there are slight pros and cons for each unit. If you think you will only ever use one sound from the pedal and will have it sitting on top of your amp, then go for the original version. If you are going to keep the unit on the floor and switch between three presets, then obviously the programable version is the one for you!
I've been following this thread with interest because a buddy of mine uses one of the earlier models (not sure which one) as a preamp into his power amp. From what I've been able to figure out I'd want the Para because it has a mid control. I like mids.
If anyone has any comments on my thinking I'd appreciate it.
If anyone has any comments on my thinking I'd appreciate it.
I have the programer one, and I LOVE IT! It gives me 4 very different, but GREAT sounds. I can go bypass to get the origional sound of my bass, or tap one of the 3 buttons to give me three distinct sounds that I use each dance. (We play Country and classic rock,and it's NICE to be able to just step on a pedal to give me the sound I need for each.) I guess you just need to get ahold of one to see what I mean,but for my 4-string it's "THE CAT'S MEOW" for my sound!!!Kent
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How do the Fishman Pro EQ Platinum and the Sansamp BDDI compare??? I'm going from full stack with rack (EQ, tube compression and Aphex Exciter) to high-end combo (something along the Eden, Aguilar, etc. genre) and want to have an even, punchy sound.
Any input (pardon the pun) appreciated.
Thanks
How do the Fishman Pro EQ Platinum and the Sansamp BDDI compare??? I'm going from full stack with rack (EQ, tube compression and Aphex Exciter) to high-end combo (something along the Eden, Aguilar, etc. genre) and want to have an even, punchy sound.
Any input (pardon the pun) appreciated.
Thanks
I am loving my PBDDI! OLP MM 5 string (with upgraded pickup) into PBDDI into SWR SM900 with the EQ set flat. Love it. The PBDDI seems to slightly compress your signal which tube amps running hard naturally do and I think that that's why everyone is loving these things. I pretty much get this great sound no matter where I play out of whatever amp,..... although having 800 watts of clean power and head room really help.
Benner
Benner
I was wondering if somebody can tell me the actual size for the SABDDI Deluxe? The width would be good to know. I have tried to find everywhere on the net even at the Tech 21 website, but there is no luck.
I like to buy one just need to know if it will to fit on my board for updating the SABDDI single version, or I have to get a bigger board as well. I like very much the single one, I am using mainly for sending to the PA, or home practicing, not for my amp-cab setup, so I can use the parallel out from the dlx, but I also like to be able to get a fast tone changing on the stage! Sounds like the DLX will be the one!
Many thanks if you can give me the actual sizes for the DLX!
OK! I know the actual size (25 cm x 13 cm / 9.84" x 5.12") after I have ordered and I have got the new PBDDI Deluxe, still fit on my PTJ board, but next effect purchase will be with a new pedaltrain 2
I like to buy one just need to know if it will to fit on my board for updating the SABDDI single version, or I have to get a bigger board as well. I like very much the single one, I am using mainly for sending to the PA, or home practicing, not for my amp-cab setup, so I can use the parallel out from the dlx, but I also like to be able to get a fast tone changing on the stage! Sounds like the DLX will be the one!
Many thanks if you can give me the actual sizes for the DLX!
OK! I know the actual size (25 cm x 13 cm / 9.84" x 5.12") after I have ordered and I have got the new PBDDI Deluxe, still fit on my PTJ board, but next effect purchase will be with a new pedaltrain 2
The NEW PBDDI Deluxe 6 factory presets are very good (rock) sounding in headphones with headphone amp connected with balanced XLR cable, using as a DI box
This way I use on the stage for ear monitoring my bass, and for recording too. Great bass tones in one pack!
Not tried front of my amp, cos I am not using that way; I have got a tube sounding amp, and when there is a chance to use amp on stage I using my Mesa M-Pulse 600 DI out, at "no-amp gig" this SansAmp unit will be a great choice for lot of bass player.
This way I use on the stage for ear monitoring my bass, and for recording too. Great bass tones in one pack!
Not tried front of my amp, cos I am not using that way; I have got a tube sounding amp, and when there is a chance to use amp on stage I using my Mesa M-Pulse 600 DI out, at "no-amp gig" this SansAmp unit will be a great choice for lot of bass player.
I went for the Para Driver DI. I needed something for bass, acoustic, electric and mandolin and this works great for all. Nice small footprint as well. Very well built.
Any more opinions on the SansAmp Bass Driver Deluxe? Is the FX loop suitable for Boss pedals? Does it ad or subtract gain?
I'm starting to but some of the FXs of my BOSS ME-50B back into action and would like to completely take it out of the loop when not needed?
The SansAmp Bass Driver Deluxe would certainly fit the bill but I'm not sure if I have enough bills to upgrade from the Programmable Bass Driver DI?
I'm starting to but some of the FXs of my BOSS ME-50B back into action and would like to completely take it out of the loop when not needed?
The SansAmp Bass Driver Deluxe would certainly fit the bill but I'm not sure if I have enough bills to upgrade from the Programmable Bass Driver DI?
I just picked up a slightly used Sansamp Bass Drive DI pedal. I'll only be running it directly into my Acoustic B200H amp. What setting should I leave the 3 switches (Phantom,, Line, etc., e.g. left to the right or left side, etc.)? Also should I use the Parallel Output or XLR one?
Is it better to leave the amp EQ flat when using the pedal?
Is it better to leave the amp EQ flat when using the pedal?
Well, it depends. If you are using it as an effect pedal, set the switch to Instrument output. If you are using it as a preamp directly into the power amp of the Acoustic, set the switch to Line Level.
If you want the BDDI to actually have an effect on your sound, you should use the regular output on the left side of the box, not the parallel out. The parallel out (like the XLR) is intended for DI use when you want to send a wet signal to the FOH (via XLR) and an unaffected signal to your amp on stage.
To get an idea of what the Sansamp is doing I´d suggest setting your amp´s EQ flat at first. You can always dial in a different sound later.
