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SBMM Stingray Short scale

The wood is different (nyatoh rather than Asian mahogany) but other people who own the Dropped Copper model are reporting weights of around 8 lbs., not really any different from other colors. Maybe 10 lbs is just on the high end of the distribution.
Nyatoh is not a species of wood but a trade name. It is pretty similar to Asian mahogany in density. It seems unlikely that a maker would choose a wood that is significantly different for what is the same model. But who knows.
Musicians Friend and Guitar Center have the white one for $504. My guess is that the white doesn’t sell as well… or maybe for some reason they got a lot more of them. Other than color and fingerboard material, they are the same.
Just judging on the posts here it seems like the white is slightly less popular. So there may be a surplus of them in some shops. FWIW they’ve been listed at $549 since I saw them appear on the GC website two years ago.
 
25511845[/URL], member: 358331"]Nyatoh is not a species of wood but a trade name. It is pretty similar to Asian mahogany in density. It seems unlikely that a maker would choose a wood that is significantly different for what is the same model. But who knows.

Just judging on the posts here it seems like the white is slightly less popular. So there may be a surplus of them in some shops. FWIW they’ve been listed at $549 since I saw them appear on the GC website two years ago.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/sterling-by-music-man-stingray-short-scale-electric-bass/l72808000001000?rNtt=Sterling short scale stingray&index=3

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Sterli...gc?rNtt=Sterling short scale stingray&index=1
 
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Here's one with a genuine stingray shagreen pickguard.
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Just saw Long & Mcquade increased the price for the SBMM short scale stingrays. It was $699CAD (~557USD) last August and $829CAD (~660USD) now for the exactly same model. Not sure the reason behind this. Glad we grabbed one early!

PS: for anyone who doesn't know Long & McQuade is the largest chain of musical instrument retailers in Canada, kinda like guitar center but worse lol
 
Just saw Long & Mcquade increased the price for the SBMM short scale stingrays. It was $699CAD (~557USD) last August and $829CAD (~660USD) now for the exactly same model. Not sure the reason behind this. Glad we grabbed one early!

PS: for anyone who doesn't know Long & McQuade is the largest chain of musical instrument retailers in Canada, kinda like guitar center but worse lol
Maybe these new ones have better tuners, nuts and volume boost switches to justify the increase…?;)
 
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I review of my Sterling by Music Man Stingray Short Scale in in order.

First off, I got a great deal on it from someone here on TB. $400 shipped in mint condition. And this is one of those rare cases where the seller said mint, and it actually was mint!

Some background - I never liked Stingrays. Why? I like a deep full tone, not the aggressive highs I hear from Stingrays. And I never liked the round pickguard. Also I could never figure our the nomenclature ... Sterling, Ernie Ball, MusicMan, SUB ... just too much to keep track of :smug:

So why did I buy it? It popped up on the TB classifieds one day and I loved the short scale and the color. It was a great deal. And I thought maybe it would be a good addition to my short scale collection, even if it didn't get played much.

Here are my thoughts on the bass in no particular order.

The dropped copper color is amazing and unique.

The bass is heavy, but it doesn't neck dive when held on a strap. The result is it feels solid, really solid. I Like.
[Let me add a comment to this. Its "on the verge" of neck diving. I can feel it. I can see where other ones might. Maybe mine has a heavy body that is balancing it. Lightweight tuners might be a good upgrade.]

The neck is super stiff and holds position well after adjusting the truss rod. Was able to set the action easily and it hasn't moved since. The truss rod wheel is the best thing ever! I don't know why this hasn't caught on with other manufacturer's? Is it patented?

The neck feels great in my hand. I don't know the radius, but its thicker and rounder than my other short scales. Feels very comfortable.

The neck feel unfinished. Obviously it has something on it, but its matte and you really can't see or feel it much. It feels almost like raw wood in your hand. Some people may not like this, or may associate it with being cheap, but not me. Its super smooth and your hand slides easily. To me this is one of the best features of the bass. Plays like butter as sellers like to say.

The fret work is well done. No high frets. And the edges are super smooth.

I like the fact that its passive. No batteries in my bass collection. The passive boost is just about too much - it may over-drive your amp! But even without the boost, its got a really hot output. The pickup is a beast. Please, no comments or arguments about "passive boost". I'm an engineer and I understand how this works. Bottom line is that you turn the knob and it gets louder. Marketing people are gonna call that a boost. Let me and my fellow engineers stick to making things, and let the sales and marketing types name them. Who am I to argue with them?

The tone is surprisingly versatile. This is very surprising to me, I did not expect it on a Stingray. It came with what I assume were the original strings and I was not happy with the tone, which I will exaggerate and call shrill. OK, not really shrill ... lets call it overly aggressive and mid focused. I put flats on it and it was much better, but a little bland. It seemed to lose its personality. So recently I put D'Addario EXL160S Nickel Rounds (50 to 105) on it. WOW. These strings sing on this bass. Now I can get anything from low and powerful to bright and snarly out of it. I never thought I'd like Stingray tone, but I have to admit to being into it now. I like to dial back the tone to maintain the deep low end, but it still always has that little bite on top of it.

Overall the fit, finish, hardware, and quality is such that I have no complaints at all. I can't find anything wrong with it. Its an amazing value for the money. I can't imagine how the USA version could be better enough for the extra cost.

The only thing I don't really like is the headstock. The 3+1 configuration is growing on me. It makes a lot of sense from a practical standpoint, as it places the tuners in optimal locations. But aesthetically the headstock looks big and ugly to me. I'm tempted to take it the band saw :D

The "round" pickguard doesn't bother me anymore. I guess I got used to it over time.

Overall this is a great bass and I'm going to keep it and play it. I never thought I'd say that about a Stingray.

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I review of my Sterling by Music Man Stingray Short Scale in in order.

First off, I got a great deal on it from someone here on TB. $400 shipped in mint condition. And this is one of those rare cases where the seller said mint, and it actually was mint!

Some background - I never liked Stingrays. Why? I like a deep full tone, not the aggressive highs I hear from Stingrays. And I never liked the round pickguard. Also I could never figure our the nomenclature ... Sterling, Ernie Ball, MusicMan, SUB ... just too much to keep track of :smug:

So why did I buy it? It popped up on the TB classifieds one day and I loved the short scale and the color. It was a great deal. And I thought maybe it would be a good addition to my short scale collection, even if it didn't get played much.

Here are my thoughts on the bass in no particular order.

The dropped copper color is amazing and unique.

The bass is heavy, but it doesn't neck dive when held on a strap. The result is it feels solid, really solid. I Like.
[Let me add a comment to this. Its "on the verge" of neck diving. I can feel it. I can see where other ones might. Maybe mine has a heavy body that is balancing it. Lightweight tuners might be a good upgrade.]

The neck is super stiff and holds position well after adjusting the truss rod. Was able to set the action easily and it hasn't moved since. The truss rod wheel is the best thing ever! I don't know why this hasn't caught on with other manufacturer's? Is it patented?

The neck feels great in my hand. I don't know the radius, but its thicker and rounder than my other short scales. Feels very comfortable.

The neck feel unfinished. Obviously it has something on it, but its matte and you really can't see or feel it much. It feels almost like raw wood in your hand. Some people may not like this, or may associate it with being cheap, but not me. Its super smooth and your hand slides easily. To me this is one of the best features of the bass. Plays like butter as sellers like to say.

The fret work is well done. No high frets. And the edges are super smooth.

I like the fact that its passive. No batteries in my bass collection. The passive boost is just about too much - it may over-drive your amp! But even without the boost, its got a really hot output. The pickup is a beast. Please, no comments or arguments about "passive boost". I'm an engineer and I understand how this works. Bottom line is that you turn the knob and it gets louder. Marketing people are gonna call that a boost. Let me and my fellow engineers stick to making things, and let the sales and marketing types name them. Who am I to argue with them?

The tone is surprisingly versatile. This is very surprising to me, I did not expect it on a Stingray. It came with what I assume were the original strings and I was not happy with the tone, which I will exaggerate and call shrill. OK, not really shrill ... lets call it overly aggressive and mid focused. I put flats on it and it was much better, but a little bland. It seemed to lose its personality. So recently I put D'Addario EXL160S Nickel Rounds (50 to 105) on it. WOW. These strings sing on this bass. Now I can get anything from low and powerful to bright and snarly out of it. I never thought I'd like Stingray tone, but I have to admit to being into it now. I like to dial back the tone to maintain the deep low end, but it still always has that little bite on top of it.

Overall the fit, finish, hardware, and quality is such that I have no complaints at all. I can't find anything wrong with it. Its an amazing value for the money. I can't imagine how the USA version could be better enough for the extra cost.

The only thing I don't really like is the headstock. The 3+1 configuration is growing on me. It makes a lot of sense from a practical standpoint, as it places the tuners in optimal locations. But aesthetically the headstock looks big and ugly to me. I'm tempted to take it the band saw :D

The "round" pickguard doesn't bother me anymore. I guess I got used to it over time.

Overall this is a great bass and I'm going to keep it and play it. I never thought I'd say that about a Stingray.

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Nice review! Thanks. :thumbsup:
 
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I review of my Sterling by Music Man Stingray Short Scale in in order.

First off, I got a great deal on it from someone here on TB. $400 shipped in mint condition. And this is one of those rare cases where the seller said mint, and it actually was mint!

Some background - I never liked Stingrays. Why? I like a deep full tone, not the aggressive highs I hear from Stingrays. And I never liked the round pickguard. Also I could never figure our the nomenclature ... Sterling, Ernie Ball, MusicMan, SUB ... just too much to keep track of :smug:

So why did I buy it? It popped up on the TB classifieds one day and I loved the short scale and the color. It was a great deal. And I thought maybe it would be a good addition to my short scale collection, even if it didn't get played much.

Here are my thoughts on the bass in no particular order.

The dropped copper color is amazing and unique.

The bass is heavy, but it doesn't neck dive when held on a strap. The result is it feels solid, really solid. I Like.
[Let me add a comment to this. Its "on the verge" of neck diving. I can feel it. I can see where other ones might. Maybe mine has a heavy body that is balancing it. Lightweight tuners might be a good upgrade.]

The neck is super stiff and holds position well after adjusting the truss rod. Was able to set the action easily and it hasn't moved since. The truss rod wheel is the best thing ever! I don't know why this hasn't caught on with other manufacturer's? Is it patented?

The neck feels great in my hand. I don't know the radius, but its thicker and rounder than my other short scales. Feels very comfortable.

The neck feel unfinished. Obviously it has something on it, but its matte and you really can't see or feel it much. It feels almost like raw wood in your hand. Some people may not like this, or may associate it with being cheap, but not me. Its super smooth and your hand slides easily. To me this is one of the best features of the bass. Plays like butter as sellers like to say.

The fret work is well done. No high frets. And the edges are super smooth.

I like the fact that its passive. No batteries in my bass collection. The passive boost is just about too much - it may over-drive your amp! But even without the boost, its got a really hot output. The pickup is a beast. Please, no comments or arguments about "passive boost". I'm an engineer and I understand how this works. Bottom line is that you turn the knob and it gets louder. Marketing people are gonna call that a boost. Let me and my fellow engineers stick to making things, and let the sales and marketing types name them. Who am I to argue with them?

The tone is surprisingly versatile. This is very surprising to me, I did not expect it on a Stingray. It came with what I assume were the original strings and I was not happy with the tone, which I will exaggerate and call shrill. OK, not really shrill ... lets call it overly aggressive and mid focused. I put flats on it and it was much better, but a little bland. It seemed to lose its personality. So recently I put D'Addario EXL160S Nickel Rounds (50 to 105) on it. WOW. These strings sing on this bass. Now I can get anything from low and powerful to bright and snarly out of it. I never thought I'd like Stingray tone, but I have to admit to being into it now. I like to dial back the tone to maintain the deep low end, but it still always has that little bite on top of it.

Overall the fit, finish, hardware, and quality is such that I have no complaints at all. I can't find anything wrong with it. Its an amazing value for the money. I can't imagine how the USA version could be better enough for the extra cost.

The only thing I don't really like is the headstock. The 3+1 configuration is growing on me. It makes a lot of sense from a practical standpoint, as it places the tuners in optimal locations. But aesthetically the headstock looks big and ugly to me. I'm tempted to take it the band saw :D

The "round" pickguard doesn't bother me anymore. I guess I got used to it over time.

Overall this is a great bass and I'm going to keep it and play it. I never thought I'd say that about a Stingray.

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Good review. Mine is pretty light, but I agree on pretty much everything you said. Both it and the G&L have very hot pickups. Hard to believe they are passive. I had to adjust them both lower. I dig the snarl as you call it. When playing the high register on the D and G strings, I get a fretless like mwah out of it. Very cool indeed. I don't use the "boost" at all live. Very good bass for the money.

Your pictures are about the best I've seen (better than ones i've posted) to capture the color indoors. It really is a unique and beautiful color.
 
I am new at posting here so sorry if this is posted in the wrong location. However, this is concerning a Sterling Stingray SS4.
I am wondering if you may help me with an idea I have. I have a Sterling Stingray Short scale bass. It has a 3-way switch selector that makes the humbucker pickup go from 1. Series 2. Single coil and 3. Parallel as you all know.
I want to add a p-bass pickup to it (Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound). I am able to mod stuff but when it comes to wiring, I am clueless. I have already routed the body and added the p-bass pickup on it.
I would like help wiring it.
I would like for the 3-way switch selector to go 1. P-bass pickup 2. Single coil (humbucker) 3. Parallel (humbucker). Basically, removing the series option for the p-bass option. Would this be possible with the current hardware? I added the wiring diagram that Sterling sent me and added the P-Bass pickups. Not sure where the black and white wires would go and what to take out. My guess was to remove either the green or white cable since position 1 lines up with those cables.
Any help would be appreciated. Even if it means with my current hardware is not possible and I need to rewire. I would like to keep the humbucker in parallel mode, I just prefer that sound.
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I am new at posting here so sorry if this is posted in the wrong location. However, this is concerning a Sterling Stingray SS4.
I am wondering if you may help me with an idea I have. I have a Sterling Stingray Short scale bass. It has a 3-way switch selector that makes the humbucker pickup go from 1. Series 2. Single coil and 3. Parallel as you all know.
I want to add a p-bass pickup to it (Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound). I am able to mod stuff but when it comes to wiring, I am clueless. I have already routed the body and added the p-bass pickup on it.
I would like help wiring it.
I would like for the 3-way switch selector to go 1. P-bass pickup 2. Single coil (humbucker) 3. Parallel (humbucker). Basically, removing the series option for the p-bass option. Would this be possible with the current hardware? I added the wiring diagram that Sterling sent me and added the P-Bass pickups. Not sure where the black and white wires would go and what to take out. My guess was to remove either the green or white cable since position 1 lines up with those cables.
Any help would be appreciated. Even if it means with my current hardware is not possible and I need to rewire. I would like to keep the humbucker in parallel mode, I just prefer that sound.
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I think you need a different switch to pull something like that off…. Schaller makes a couple of blade style super switches for fender style guitars that can be wired to do interesting combinations. I had one in a strat style SSH that allowed me to do some very cool things but I don’t know of anything that would work in the current space in your bass. My gut says the easiest way to address this is to add another three way switch that gives you P, P+MM, MM while allowing the current switch to change what is coming from the MM. You would need to add another switch though. Or, you could replace the rotary pot with a three way switch and sacrifice two of the options from the MM.