3555 g = 7.83 lb or 7 lb and 13.39 oz
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SBMM Stingray Short scale
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3555 g = 7.83 lb or 7 lb and 13.39 oz
Sorry, no idea why the pictures were posted multiple times.
Now to the most important thing - how does it sound?
The MM coil on the bridge as expected. Brighter and with less pressure. The pole pieces of a standard jazz pickup would be a little closer to the bridge, but it comes pretty close.
The DiMarzio Model J in the neck position also sounds as expected. Almost closer to a P Split Coil than to a Jazz Single Coil. Very round and full.
As many have already written - the front MM coil sounds fantastic. It must be right in the sweet spot.
So far I like it best:
Solo neck pickup
Solo MM neck coil
MM parallel mode
Neck pickup and MM with the bridge coil.
Let's see how it sounds in rehearsals.
So much after one rehearsal:
The Model J can easily keep up with the Neodym MM. You can set the distances from the strings to the pole pieces approximately the same.
With the Model J, the bass comes through very well with a tone very close to a P-bass.
For me, this additional pickup is an enormous extension of the sound spectrum of this bass.
An alternative to this pickup could be the DM Ultra, which also has plenty of power and more bass and treble. Maybe I'll try it out too, just for fun. I'm very happy with the Model J.
This weekend I'm going to install the DiMarzio Ultra pickup. And try it out in the next rehearsal. Curiosity wins out.
I've never had a DM Ultra in the neck position, which is why I'm so curious.
I would expect the ultra to sound more open like the model j, clearer and with a much wider frequency range.
I've only ever used Ultra J pickups in the bridge position and that was always good. And an ultra j in the bridge position harmonizes well with a model J on the neck.
Here is my first impression at home. The DM Ultra has slightly less output than the Model J. However, it is very close to the Model J and also goes very well with the MM neodymium pickup. The information on the website about the output is completely wrong.
My first sound impression:
With the Model J it sounds like a P bass, with the Ultra it sounds like a jazz bass. The Ultra J sounds like a vintage pickup to me, only much louder. This sound has addictive potential for me.
You could also say it sounds similar to the front single coil of the MM pickup, only much more like a jazz bass.
I can't describe it any better at the moment and the first rehearsal with it will be decisive anyway.
The findings from the rehearsal with the Ultra Pickup are surprising and it shows once again that it is difficult to reliably evaluate such a change at home.
In my constellation (band, musical material, my equipment) the following emerged:
The Ultra pickup doesn't really harmonize with the MM pickup. The two sound very different. The Ultra is something like a vintage pickup with an extended frequency spectrum and more volume. While playing I switched back and forth between the Ultra and the MM (front coil, parallel, rear coil) and with the Ultra the A and D strings disappeared in the mix. You would have to play the Ultra with different amplifier settings, which would then not be suitable for the MM pickup.
I'll put the Model J back in and it'll stay that way.
The DM Ultra is undoubtedly a very good pickup, but not in this / my configuration.
Yesterday's test with the DiMarzio Model J pickup once again confirmed my first impression. This pickup goes well with the MM pickup and adds another unique tone. I prefer to use the Model J alone, together with the MM bridge coil, the bridge coil alone, the MM neck coil alone and the MM alone in parallel connection. Lots of really different sounds.
Because the individual coils of the MM pickup are single coils, background noise can occur when using them. But I haven't noticed that at all yet. There is certainly still some room for improvement here.
Pickups with noise-free single coils that could be considered for replacing the MM pickup:
Delano MC HE/M2 Double Split Coil Series
Delano MC FE/M2 Double Split Coil Series
Bartolini '2J Squared' MM Dual Split Coil Hum canceling
Nordstrand 4 String Musicman MM 4.4 Quad Coil
Does anyone have experience with one of these pickups? And how does it compare to the original neodymium MM pickup?
Delano MC HE/M2 Double Split Coil Series
Delano MC FE/M2 Double Split Coil Series
Bartolini '2J Squared' MM Dual Split Coil Hum canceling
Nordstrand 4 String Musicman MM 4.4 Quad Coil
Does anyone have experience with one of these pickups? And how does it compare to the original neodymium MM pickup?
After the overwhelming response, I decided to test the Delano MC FE/M2 Double Split Coil Series.
What do I expect from this?
Hopefully a tone that is a little clearer and tighter than with the neodymium pickup. And of course all circuit variants without any background noise.
I'll report back after the first rehearsals. May take some time.
The Delano MC FE/M2 Double Split Coil Series is installed.
In terms of connections, brown must be soldered to MM-green, white to MM-black, green to MM-red and yellow to MM-white.
The front coil on the Delano is white (hot) / brown, the rear is green (hot) / yellow.
The individual coils (split coils) measure 2.58 kOhm.
Previously, I had to connect the DiMarzio Model-J out of phase because of the original MM pickup, otherwise the two pickups would have been out of phase together. I was now able to connect the Model-J correctly again.
In terms of connections, brown must be soldered to MM-green, white to MM-black, green to MM-red and yellow to MM-white.
The front coil on the Delano is white (hot) / brown, the rear is green (hot) / yellow.
The individual coils (split coils) measure 2.58 kOhm.
Previously, I had to connect the DiMarzio Model-J out of phase because of the original MM pickup, otherwise the two pickups would have been out of phase together. I was now able to connect the Model-J correctly again.
My first impression at home:
The Delano is a little bit quieter than the MM neodymium pickup. I adjusted it about the same and turned the Model J down a bit. Fits perfectly.
The Delano actually has a slightly clearer tone, which I really like. The Delano pickup also has a more balanced tone overall. And the bass growls a little more prominently.
And of course, because of the two split coil 'single coils', it doesn't hum and is free from background noise.
The Delano is a little bit quieter than the MM neodymium pickup. I adjusted it about the same and turned the Model J down a bit. Fits perfectly.
The Delano actually has a slightly clearer tone, which I really like. The Delano pickup also has a more balanced tone overall. And the bass growls a little more prominently.
And of course, because of the two split coil 'single coils', it doesn't hum and is free from background noise.
The pickup is potted. The magnetic discs that can be removed are interesting. The pickup will probably no longer be as loud and may also sound different.
Some audios before/after would be great !
I didn't open mine yet. Does the pickup come by factory with these magnetic discs?
