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Schecter Hellcat VI

#63
Showdown said:
Do any of you bass VI players tune EADGCF? If you do, do you use different strings, or will the standard guages handle the extra tension? It might be nice to tune that way so that scale fingerings would remain the same going up to the higher strings instead of being half a step down.
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well, the way it is tuned is just like a regular guitar, so if you play guitar as well, as i do, then you will be used to the fingerings. This is why the high string on my 5 string bass is tuned to B instead of C, to help me play in a consistent manner with the same chord voicing shapes on both instruments... :bassist:
 
#64
eboe said:
well, the way it is tuned is just like a regular guitar, so if you play guitar as well, as i do, then you will be used to the fingerings. :bassist:
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I do play guitar well, that isn't the point. For chords the tuning is great, but if I want to move a I-IV-V pattern in E from, say, the 7th fret A string to the 2nd fret D string, the fingering is changed when you move to the IV and the V, making playing it more difficult. The song I'm thinking of is "I Saw Her Standing There", a fast bass line that is difficult enough without having to finger the IV and V differently from the I. It would give me more choices of where to play without having to change the pattern on the fly.

It would also allow me to play power chords with a G string root easier. Think about it a little and you'll see what I mean.
 
#65
bass_drum said:
Hey guys im loving my Hellcat!


I have a few soundclips on Link Removed
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ok...nice stuff.....i have just uploaded a soundbyte of my own of silhouette bass ..doubletracked on two single straight takes plus a drum and synth effect backing.... trying to show the kind of thing that only a bari e-e can do rather than doing the bass thing.:bassist:

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i think the drums are too hot in the mix.:hyper:
 
#67
Just wanted to point out the pic of Joe Perry and Steven Tyler is of them playing 'Back in the Saddle' from their 1976 album 'Rocks' (the most critically acclaimed album....)

This song was the inspiration for me to become a 6-string bass freak (of the the octave-below-guitar-varierty) I am searching high and low for a music man silhouette with a whammy, a Fender VI. I have an OLP copy that's OK, but no whammy. Just sold me Dano 6 Bass...too light for me. What I want is EXACTLY what Perry has in this picture, and I'll pay for it :-)

Best!
Ice Blade


zazz said:
i have the silo bass tuned e-e...which means it is a bass ...im using the vi strings because they are thicker and tighter than the ernie ball set.


and if you have the a-a tuning on the same bass then it falls into the baritone section. see below

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#68
Showdown said:
I do play guitar well, that isn't the point. For chords the tuning is great, but if I want to move a I-IV-V pattern in E from, say, the 7th fret A string to the 2nd fret D string, the fingering is changed when you move to the IV and the V, making playing it more difficult. The song I'm thinking of is "I Saw Her Standing There", a fast bass line that is difficult enough without having to finger the IV and V differently from the I. It would give me more choices of where to play without having to change the pattern on the fly.

It would also allow me to play power chords with a G string root easier. Think about it a little and you'll see what I mean.
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OK, since getting my Jag VI Christmas I've had to deal with the same problem and I have decided to keep the standard guitar tuning. While powerchords change depending on which strings you're using, arpeggios become so simple on the high GBE strings. That alone makes that tuning worth it for me and I've found that I'm adjusting to having different frettings for certain lines and powerchords. Punk songs are good practice for that I've found. The more I play those the more I'm getting used to finding the right notes for bass lines on them as well. Just my 2 cents.
 
#69
Ice Blade said:
Just wanted to point out the pic of Joe Perry and Steven Tyler is of them playing 'Back in the Saddle' from their 1976 album 'Rocks' (the most critically acclaimed album....)

This song was the inspiration for me to become a 6-string bass freak (of the the octave-below-guitar-varierty) I am searching high and low for a music man silhouette with a whammy, a Fender VI. I have an OLP copy that's OK, but no whammy. Just sold me Dano 6 Bass...too light for me. What I want is EXACTLY what Perry has in this picture, and I'll pay for it :-)

Best!
Ice Blade
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I don't see a whammy bar on that one in the pic. It looks like a normal silhouette 6 . As far as I know, the Fender Bass VI was the main one with a whammy bar.
 
#70
You're exactly right - it does not have a whammy in that pic. I've seen Joe play one with a whammy though, and you can hear the whammy being used on the live version on 'A Little South Of Sanity' 1998 double CD set. I was an aero freak as a kid and through college ('95-'99, followed them around the east coast during college..ahh the glory days)

It was like christmas to me when they started opening their set with back in the saddle around 1998. They've since changed again...but oh well.

I'm really itching to pull the trigger on the Gretsch Jet Baritone. Does anyone here play it? Is it cheap and light like the Dano 6 bass, or is it a real instrument I can play with confidence on stage? The Dano was headstock-heavy, if you can believe that...I want my bass to be firmly weighted down by the body, as a bare minimum :-)

Great forum guys.
 
#73
[/QUOTE]I also always wanted to try a Dearmond Bajojet. you saw them everywhere on ebay a while back, now I rarely see them pop up. Here's a pic of it. Anyone try one?

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I got a green Bahojet when they first came out and regrettably sold it after about a year. It played and sounded great, but it was a little heavy and I had to enlarge the holes in the tail piece to accommodate Fenders Bass VI string set and the E tuning (it comes standard with smaller strings and tuned to A).

I wish I had it back!
 
#74
Ice Blade said:
You're exactly right - it does not have a whammy in that pic. I've seen Joe play one with a whammy though, and you can hear the whammy being used on the live version on 'A Little South Of Sanity' 1998 double CD set. I was an aero freak as a kid and through college ('95-'99, followed them around the east coast during college..ahh the glory days)
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acctually i never really considered a whammy but looking at that non standard lock nut in the picture...my guess is its a customized silo bass but the whammy bar isnt in place on that particular shot.

and you will never i would guess find another unless perry sells his.
 
#79
BmoreTele said:
From this guy

http://stores.ebay.com/STRINGS-AND-THINGS-GUITAR-WHOLESALE

He's still got a black one. Call him up. He'll negotiate a deal with you. ;)
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AH cool yeah I see his stuff on eBay all the time, probably the most common source of the Hellcat VI I see on there...

I can't afford to get one just yet, I am buying a new bass head tomorrow and probably a new cabinet soon after and will have to take care of rent, bills, etc. Maybe in a couple of months...
 
#80
Can any Hellcat VI owner tell me what the string spacing, the bridge width, and/or the tailpiece width is? I definitely intend to get one, but today I had the strange notion of bolting a Bigsby vibrato on it. So I did a bit of comparison via photoshop between the Gretsch Jet Baritone and the Hellcat VI, being that the Gretsch's scale length is a mere 1/4-inch shorter. I did this to see if the Bigsby model B50 would fit on the Hellcat. Unfortunately, it won't (not enough space between the bridge and the end of the bass). But then I remembered the ABS "Les Trem"... The bridge/tailpiece of the Hellcat VI look to be similar to that of a Gibson guitar, and if the dimensions/spacing are the same, then the Les Trem (which has string spacing of 3 1/4") *might* be a viable option for what I have in mind.
 

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