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Sealed Crossfiring 6x10 build

#161
I have a 4x15 angled.... It's a strange cab....

You have tried a 4x12? Because I now own a Maxwatt Hiwatt 4x12 with Fanes and that cab is really nice... Marshall made a 4x12 (tall cab) wich is allso really nice... My Hiwatt is a tall cabinet. 1,50m high and 63 cm wide. They give me more or less the sound you describe.

Well, I'll watch this thread. Interesting thread... My 4x15 is ported by the way... (thus alil different then the closed 4x15 Sunn..)
 
#162
The cab is built and Don is waiting for the drivers to arrive. He said that Penn-Elcomm sent the wrong screen, it has the smaller holes that are probably the same as the screen on my NV610 cab, which is fine. I wanted the bigger ones that Don usually uses but, that would cause more wait time and Im really not picky about that. Im assuming that I'll have the cab in a few weeks. Of course the shipping time and cost has gone up since don moved to seattle from michigan. Oh well, he still builds great cabs and does it for less than anyone else. Unless there is some crazy unforeseen issue, I'll be selling my NV610 after this cab arrives and gets gigged a few times. The NV has been put back to stock mode and is in great shape with the cover. I definitely will have to contact Tuki about a cover because, I LOVE the one they made for the NV. It really protects the cab, looks good and takes a beating. I'll never gig without covers for my gear again. My pa cabs even have covers now. Good thing, because the guys in the band dont' seem to care how expensive they are when throwing the around.
 
#163
Don has the cab up and running. In his words "This cab is F*&King amazing!". It will be shipped out tomorow and with alot of luck, I'll get it next friday, just in time to unpack it and bring it to a gig un-tested. We'll see. Im expecting good things. Probably won't get it until after that weekend though. :hmm:
 
#167
Don, estimated the cab to be roughly 80lbs but, I'll know this evening I think. As long as it is 100lbs or less Im fine. I put in an order with tuki for a padded nylon cover as well. Gotta have those things if you want your gear to last.
 
#169
6 Betas, 2 c8r, all crossfired. Betas run fullrange, c8r's high passed at 800hz to added etra top end and upper mids. This is a cab that I've been planning in my head way before this thread and way before other builds that I've done. This is my idea of what a rock bass cab should sound like and how it should be improved. Don loves it. Im already playing a version of it and love it. This one should be better. The long wait for delivery begins. It kind of sucks. I purposely didn't book any gigs from the middle of july until september because I wanted to use my summer for more recreation this year instead of gigging hard during our short warm weather season up here in the north. So, It is very likely that I'll only get to use this cab on two gigs before my summer break and then have to wait a long time until we start gigging again. Two gigs won't even break the betas in. They really do sound better after some hard playing, especially in a sealed cab. Two gigs isn't going to do it unfortunately.
 
#172
Its Alive.....ITS ALIVE!

cool man, dying to see some pictures of the monster you created

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#175
The padded nylon tuki cover will be here thursday and the cab will arrive on friday. I literally will be taking it out of the box and loading it into my truck to play a gig. Talk about trial by fire. The gig will be at a room that is very shallow but wide. So, the improved dispersion should be very noticable. Im pretty sure that this cab, aside from better dispersion, is going to sound like my NV610 with the external mid driver cab. But, I've noticed that cabs with clustered drivers like a regular 4x10 have some fine distortion in the sound, probably from comb filtering. When vertically stacking a pair of 2x10 cabs, the distortions are reduced and you get a cleaner, but not necessarily better sound. I'll bet this crossfired design will impart some sort of subtle sound of it's own.
 
#176
Trial by fire for sure, but with the amount of prototyping you did along with your feel for the NV610 I'm thinking it will feel somewhat familiar after a few songs with eq tweaks. Since driver arrangement does affect the sound image a cab presents I'm sure it will contribute to its overall mix. If the sweet spot is wider and the tone more even with different positions on stage this crossfired design is a win. Looking forward to your gig impressions.
 
#177
The Eagle has landed, a day early! I went home at lunchtime and the cab as well as the padded tuki cover were there. First, the cover fit perfectly and is really thick. This thing is rugged and will put up with enough abuse to get me through the rest of my playing career.

The cab looks great and the construction is flawless as usual. Don never fails in that aspect. The tolex is flat and tight everywhere. The cab dimensions are 43" Tall (the wheels and big rubber feet at an inch), 15.5" deep and 22" wide. Don said it weighed around 96lbs. That sounds about right, maybe even alittle lighter. The cab is very easy to move because of the large wheels. Handles are alittle lower that some big cabs but that made it easier to carry up my front steps. The 22" width makes the cab feel much lighter than its weight and dimensions suggests. I may add a small kick plate later. Don probably could have made the cab 1-2" shorter but, there is alot of bracing inside so, that may have something to do with it.

It was hard to come back to work without trying it, let me tell you. After work Im going to have a bite to eat, take some pics of the cab and then bring it to my parents house outside of town where I can make some noise and start to break this thing in. Slowly of course. :) From experience I know that the beta 10's change sound a bit after they break in so, I'd like to put alittle low end through them tonight before I play two gigs this weekend.

I pretty much know what to expect from this cab. Hopefully any surprises will be good ones.
 
#178
I'll be following this one.;)

I'd be glad the inch or two of height and the sturdy bracing is there. Nothing but good indications there. Whhat you mentioned about handle placement is a good thing too. If you have to lift/move this thing by yourself, having them just above the balance point makes it easier on the back and arms. You don't have to strain as much to arch your back or hold your hands higher than is comfortable. Little things like that can really matter. Good balance points in all directions make big cabs feel lighter/easier to handle. The front to back position as well. Having something want to fall away from you makes for back injuries. At least balancing nicely or wanting to lean into you slightly makes it all work. Little stuff like that really matters. And the sound of course, looking forward to your impressions.
 

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