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Sei Owner's Club (Part 3)

thought this needed a bump as it has been very quiet of late.

Pierre - how is the new bass going?

Mike - any new tunes to share with us?

Lastly, anyone got any news about Sei that we need to hear. Especially new builds or ones nearing completion. There must be something out there.

Looking forward to the replies

Regards

Matthew
 
Hey hey

Just a very quick update - went to the BG yesterday and saw lots of new Seis in production - there's even one that was inspired by my Buckeye Single Cut and even has the same 'rabbit ears' on the top wood - it's uncannily similar - but has a macasa fingerboard and a flame swamp ash body - there's also a 7 STRING JAZZ bass on order - will you people ever learn???! ONly kidding - it looks sick!

I've decided to get a small transparent scratch plate fitted to my Jazz as the gap between the strings and the end of the neck is a bit too wide for me - but I'm still loving that bass - it's amazing. I had a great gig with my Single Cut last weekend - nice sold out show in Birmingham at the CBSO hall - the bass sounded great, the band played great and I had lots of nice comments after on both my playing and the overall sound - now I'm in the process of acquiring a new Genz Benz Shuttle - probably going for the 6.0 - I'll keep you posted,

Mike
 
I've just been catching up with things here. Some really nice Sei basses out there.

Mike - I like Tripping Out and the D n B vid. Very good sound and excellent playing.

Pierre - what a great looking bass. I'm sure you must be enjoying it more each day.

I'm still waiting on mine. ABM are having probs with the finishing on the bridge. I'm sure it will be worth the wait, but the closer it gets to being ready, the harder the waiting.

Here's some pics after it has been varnished:
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Did anyone go to bass day in Manchester? I enjoyed seeing the performances in the theatre particularly Nathan East. Yolanda Charles and Miles Bould were performing on a stand but it was a bit difficult to hear them over the noise from all the basses being tried out on the other stands. A good day out though and well done to Stevie Williams for organising it.
 
I've just been catching up with things here. Some really nice Sei basses out there.

Mike - I like Tripping Out and the D n B vid. Very good sound and excellent playing.

Pierre - what a great looking bass. I'm sure you must be enjoying it more each day.

I'm still waiting on mine. ABM are having probs with the finishing on the bridge. I'm sure it will be worth the wait, but the closer it gets to being ready, the harder the waiting.

Here's some pics after it has been varnished:
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Did anyone go to bass day in Manchester? I enjoyed seeing the performances in the theatre particularly Nathan East. Yolanda Charles and Miles Bould were performing on a stand but it was a bit difficult to hear them over the noise from all the basses being tried out on the other stands. A good day out though and well done to Stevie Williams for organising it.

That looks sweet!!!!!!!!

Is the top wood walnut, it does look like it but I am not very good at identifying woods. Re the ABM bridge, I think the owner died a while back which impacted quite naturally on production. I expect things are under control but it might still be a reason for some delays.

Regards
Matthew
 
Here's mine:

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Flamboyant Offset 5-string fretless.

Wonderful!
Holy canoli! :eek:
 
The missus is giving me £400 for Xmas as a deposit for a new Sei. :D Still plotting the spec, but it's probably going to be a 5-string Jazz... I'm back home over Xmas, so I'll pay Martin a visit then, give him the deposit and sort out the details. :)

Cool Russ - I love my Sei Jazz - just a joy to play and tonally really on the money - I'm sure Mart will cook something special up for you - nice Crimbo prezzy for sure!

Keep us posted and maybe see you at the Gallery when you're over.

Cheers

Mike
 
Cool Russ - I love my Sei Jazz - just a joy to play and tonally really on the money - I'm sure Mart will cook something special up for you - nice Crimbo prezzy for sure!

Keep us posted and maybe see you at the Gallery when you're over.

Cheers

Mike

Hi Mike,
Haven't seen your Jazz since before it was finished (was still on the workbench last time I was at The Gallery), but, from those clips you posted, it sounds stunning (although I think a lot of that is the bloke playing it rather than the bass). :)

I'll probably be up there sometime in the week between Xmas and New Year. I'll be bringing the singlecut over with me too, since there's been talk of arranging a jam with some of my old bandmates. :) Plus, I'll be leaving it with Martin for a bit of a "rejuvenation" - the bass is over 6 years old now and could do with some TLC back at the place of its birth! Besides, I want Martin to replace the Aguilar EQ that's in there now with a John East EQ (the bass originally had a John East and I miss its versatility).

Definitely a nice Crimbo prezzie, although it's probably going to be next Christmas before I actually see it! :D Spec-wise, I'm thinking of a swamp ash body, possibly chambered (to make it lighter, my back's not what it used to be), flame maple facings, bubinga/wenge neck, ebony fingerboard with pearl blocks, black hardware, Nordstrand Big Singles and a John East EQ, all topped off with a transparent black or dark red finish. Possibly front LEDs too, if we can find a nice clean way of incorporating them with the block inlays. I'm thinking backlit blocks. :D
 
That looks sweet!!!!!!!!

Is the top wood walnut, it does look like it but I am not very good at identifying woods. Re the ABM bridge, I think the owner died a while back which impacted quite naturally on production. I expect things are under control but it might still be a reason for some delays.

Regards
Matthew

Yes walnut veneer front and back with an ash body. That's sad about the owner of ABM. Understandably things must be taking a bit longer at the moment.

Lynda.
 
Hi Mike,
Haven't seen your Jazz since before it was finished (was still on the workbench last time I was at The Gallery), but, from those clips you posted, it sounds stunning (although I think a lot of that is the bloke playing it rather than the bass). :)

I'll probably be up there sometime in the week between Xmas and New Year. I'll be bringing the singlecut over with me too, since there's been talk of arranging a jam with some of my old bandmates. :) Plus, I'll be leaving it with Martin for a bit of a "rejuvenation" - the bass is over 6 years old now and could do with some TLC back at the place of its birth! Besides, I want Martin to replace the Aguilar EQ that's in there now with a John East EQ (the bass originally had a John East and I miss its versatility).

Definitely a nice Crimbo prezzie, although it's probably going to be next Christmas before I actually see it! :D Spec-wise, I'm thinking of a swamp ash body, possibly chambered (to make it lighter, my back's not what it used to be), flame maple facings, bubinga/wenge neck, ebony fingerboard with pearl blocks, black hardware, Nordstrand Big Singles and a John East EQ, all topped off with a transparent black or dark red finish. Possibly front LEDs too, if we can find a nice clean way of incorporating them with the block inlays. I'm thinking backlit blocks. :D

Thanks Russ - and all good on your proposed specs - I have to say though my Jazz is very lightweight, about the same as my Single Cut, maybe a tiny bit heavier but still on the light side - so I'm not sure you'd need to go as far as a chambered body but Martin will know best. Funny you should mention John East Pre's - I'm thinking of getting one in my single cut just so I can shape the mids more and just have, likeyou say, more versatility. I'm digging the Demeter but it's a bit limited in its capabilities - the Nordy pups are very good indeed tho so go for them - I have the NJ4S ones on my Jazz and they rock.

M
 
Hey hey

Just a very quick update - went to the BG yesterday and saw lots of new Seis in production - there's also a 7 STRING JAZZ bass on order - will you people ever learn???! ONly kidding - it looks sick!

Mike

Hey Mike

Guess the Jazz 7 is my one. Spoke to Martin a couple of days ago. It's now post varnishing, so we're on to hardware fitting. Don't have the build savvy many of you guys have, so I'm putting a lot of faith in Martin's intuition, but I'm sure looking forward to playing it.

We're now nearly 17 months since the order went in, and Martin thinks about another month should see completion. I've tried not to think about it too much along the way. A friend said what if you change your mind along the way...well, I've been playing more fretless in the last year or so, so maybe another order will have to follow!

This will be my third Sei. The others are fretted 5 and fretless 5 Jazzes, both of which were pre-owned, so I didn't have any influence on design of those, but just liked the look, feel, sound and build quality.

Anyway, here's some pics of the Jazz 7 from mid September...

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Blimey! So much going on since I last checked in!!

After having read this new part of the SOC thread, there's some really exciting stuff. Some great playing and some brilliant new builds/owners.

My Sei 7 is fine and well although not fit for new, glorious photos at the moment. Let me explain:

As some of you might recall, Jezebel (the name my wife gave to my Sei) has always been a little disappointing on the tone front. I wanted a real growly, single pickup rock bass and it came out a little, well, wimpy. Way too meek and mild.:hmm: It sounded great in comparison with other basses, but I felt the tone was too near to that jazz bridge pickup sound which (personally) I can't stand.

When the bass was made Martin routed a control cavity as usual in case any kind of upgrading needed to take place. After a few months of ownership, the sound wasn't working for me and a Schack preamp went in the hole to try to save the situation. Martin cleverly put the Schack on two concentric pots so only one more big hole for the second pot was made in the top (and a tiny, weeny hole for the LED switch).

The Schack is a great piece of kit as you can set the centre frequencies for treble, middle and bass, but wherever I set with those infamous dip switches it still wasn't right. A couple of months ago, I decided to sort it once and for all as the bass is so special and deserved better. I've been doing a lot of setup work for people and taking a guitar repair course at the local college, so I'm a lot more confident about delving into my instruments that I was when I first became a Sei owner.

After sitting and adjusting the Schack for another few hours just in case I missed anything, I came to the conclusion that the pickup was the culprit. The Schack must be trying to change something inherent to the pickup which no amount of knob-twiddling could change.

So I had to try and find a new pickup. Nordstrand seem to be the 'must-have' pickup at the moment and they were very good, answering my e-mails quickly and suggesting a pickup which would suit. I then decided to have a look at the pickup in the bass and see if there was any info on it which could help. All I found was the Kent Armstrong sticker and some numbers which meant nothing to me. So I got in touch with Aaron Armstrong who wound the pickup in the first place.

I sent an e-mail to Aaron explaining the situation together with photos pictures of the pickup and the sticker. He came back and said that the pickup was really for the bridge position, so no wonder it didn't sound as I wanted it to! So I asked Aaron outright if he could make a pickup which would do what I wanted it to. He said he could and as I have his pickups in my ACG bass, I was pretty sure that I would get the result I craved for the Sei. So I packed the pickup and set it off to Aaron so he could get the size right and the new pickup would just go straight in.

Meanwhile, I really wanted to junk the Schack pre and have the bass as I first wanted it, just 1 pickup and passive electronics (an idea which I saw first on SOC member #1's bass). So I made a note of all the wires and unsoldered it from the bass.


MDpu2.jpg


MDpu3.jpg


As you can see, I took absolutely no chance of the finish getting spoilt!

The board for the Schack pre was attached the cavity cover. Darn clever idea and even after nearly 2 years in the bass, it was still didn't want to come off. Some gentle persuasion was required.


MDpu4.jpg



I ordered 2 new CTS pots and a couple of different Sprague 'orange drop' capacitors to replace the concentric pots. A few days later the new pickup arrived.


MDpu1.jpg



Spot the difference. Old one on left, new on the right.


So I wired the new pickup in, plugged the bass in and hit the strings....

The difference was astounding :D The bass just came alive :eek: The lows had some wallop and the Sei had the punch that I wanted it to have. It's been like having a new bass. The bass feels more resonant(?!) and just feels superb to play. I now have the bass I wanted...

:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:


Jezebel isn't ready for photos as I haven't got the replacement knobs yet. I'll get some photos done when they're fitted! :bassist:
 
Blimey! So much going on since I last checked in!!

After having read this new part of the SOC thread, there's some really exciting stuff. Some great playing and some brilliant new builds/owners.

My Sei 7 is fine and well although not fit for new, glorious photos at the moment. Let me explain:

As some of you might recall, Jezebel (the name my wife gave to my Sei) has always been a little disappointing on the tone front. I wanted a real growly, single pickup rock bass and it came out a little, well, wimpy. Way too meek and mild.:hmm: It sounded great in comparison with other basses, but I felt the tone was too near to that jazz bridge pickup sound which (personally) I can't stand.

When the bass was made Martin routed a control cavity as usual in case any kind of upgrading needed to take place. After a few months of ownership, the sound wasn't working for me and a Schack preamp went in the hole to try to save the situation. Martin cleverly put the Schack on two concentric pots so only one more big hole for the second pot was made in the top (and a tiny, weeny hole for the LED switch).

The Schack is a great piece of kit as you can set the centre frequencies for treble, middle and bass, but wherever I set with those infamous dip switches it still wasn't right. A couple of months ago, I decided to sort it once and for all as the bass is so special and deserved better. I've been doing a lot of setup work for people and taking a guitar repair course at the local college, so I'm a lot more confident about delving into my instruments that I was when I first became a Sei owner.

After sitting and adjusting the Schack for another few hours just in case I missed anything, I came to the conclusion that the pickup was the culprit. The Schack must be trying to change something inherent to the pickup which no amount of knob-twiddling could change.

So I had to try and find a new pickup. Nordstrand seem to be the 'must-have' pickup at the moment and they were very good, answering my e-mails quickly and suggesting a pickup which would suit. I then decided to have a look at the pickup in the bass and see if there was any info on it which could help. All I found was the Kent Armstrong sticker and some numbers which meant nothing to me. So I got in touch with Aaron Armstrong who wound the pickup in the first place.

I sent an e-mail to Aaron explaining the situation together with photos pictures of the pickup and the sticker. He came back and said that the pickup was really for the bridge position, so no wonder it didn't sound as I wanted it to! So I asked Aaron outright if he could make a pickup which would do what I wanted it to. He said he could and as I have his pickups in my ACG bass, I was pretty sure that I would get the result I craved for the Sei. So I packed the pickup and set it off to Aaron so he could get the size right and the new pickup would just go straight in.

Meanwhile, I really wanted to junk the Schack pre and have the bass as I first wanted it, just 1 pickup and passive electronics (an idea which I saw first on SOC member #1's bass). So I made a note of all the wires and unsoldered it from the bass.


MDpu2.jpg


MDpu3.jpg


As you can see, I took absolutely no chance of the finish getting spoilt!

The board for the Schack pre was attached the cavity cover. Darn clever idea and even after nearly 2 years in the bass, it was still didn't want to come off. Some gentle persuasion was required.


MDpu4.jpg



I ordered 2 new CTS pots and a couple of different Sprague 'orange drop' capacitors to replace the concentric pots. A few days later the new pickup arrived.


MDpu1.jpg



Spot the difference. Old one on left, new on the right.


So I wired the new pickup in, plugged the bass in and hit the strings....

The difference was astounding :D The bass just came alive :eek: The lows had some wallop and the Sei had the punch that I wanted it to have. It's been like having a new bass. The bass feels more resonant(?!) and just feels superb to play. I now have the bass I wanted...

:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:


Jezebel isn't ready for photos as I haven't got the replacement knobs yet. I'll get some photos done when they're fitted! :bassist:

7
Excellent post. It seems you have gone on quite a journey with the Sei, but really pleased for you that it has worked out. Looking forward to the finished photo's when all os complete.

Regards

SOC #1
 
Blimey! So much going on since I last checked in!!

After having read this new part of the SOC thread, there's some really exciting stuff. Some great playing and some brilliant new builds/owners.

My Sei 7 is fine and well although not fit for new, glorious photos at the moment. Let me explain:

As some of you might recall, Jezebel (the name my wife gave to my Sei) has always been a little disappointing on the tone front. I wanted a real growly, single pickup rock bass and it came out a little, well, wimpy. Way too meek and mild.:hmm: It sounded great in comparison with other basses, but I felt the tone was too near to that jazz bridge pickup sound which (personally) I can't stand.

When the bass was made Martin routed a control cavity as usual in case any kind of upgrading needed to take place. After a few months of ownership, the sound wasn't working for me and a Schack preamp went in the hole to try to save the situation. Martin cleverly put the Schack on two concentric pots so only one more big hole for the second pot was made in the top (and a tiny, weeny hole for the LED switch).

The Schack is a great piece of kit as you can set the centre frequencies for treble, middle and bass, but wherever I set with those infamous dip switches it still wasn't right. A couple of months ago, I decided to sort it once and for all as the bass is so special and deserved better. I've been doing a lot of setup work for people and taking a guitar repair course at the local college, so I'm a lot more confident about delving into my instruments that I was when I first became a Sei owner.

After sitting and adjusting the Schack for another few hours just in case I missed anything, I came to the conclusion that the pickup was the culprit. The Schack must be trying to change something inherent to the pickup which no amount of knob-twiddling could change.

So I had to try and find a new pickup. Nordstrand seem to be the 'must-have' pickup at the moment and they were very good, answering my e-mails quickly and suggesting a pickup which would suit. I then decided to have a look at the pickup in the bass and see if there was any info on it which could help. All I found was the Kent Armstrong sticker and some numbers which meant nothing to me. So I got in touch with Aaron Armstrong who wound the pickup in the first place.

I sent an e-mail to Aaron explaining the situation together with photos pictures of the pickup and the sticker. He came back and said that the pickup was really for the bridge position, so no wonder it didn't sound as I wanted it to! So I asked Aaron outright if he could make a pickup which would do what I wanted it to. He said he could and as I have his pickups in my ACG bass, I was pretty sure that I would get the result I craved for the Sei. So I packed the pickup and set it off to Aaron so he could get the size right and the new pickup would just go straight in.

Meanwhile, I really wanted to junk the Schack pre and have the bass as I first wanted it, just 1 pickup and passive electronics (an idea which I saw first on SOC member #1's bass). So I made a note of all the wires and unsoldered it from the bass.


MDpu2.jpg


MDpu3.jpg


As you can see, I took absolutely no chance of the finish getting spoilt!

The board for the Schack pre was attached the cavity cover. Darn clever idea and even after nearly 2 years in the bass, it was still didn't want to come off. Some gentle persuasion was required.


MDpu4.jpg



I ordered 2 new CTS pots and a couple of different Sprague 'orange drop' capacitors to replace the concentric pots. A few days later the new pickup arrived.


MDpu1.jpg



Spot the difference. Old one on left, new on the right.


So I wired the new pickup in, plugged the bass in and hit the strings....

The difference was astounding :D The bass just came alive :eek: The lows had some wallop and the Sei had the punch that I wanted it to have. It's been like having a new bass. The bass feels more resonant(?!) and just feels superb to play. I now have the bass I wanted...

:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:


Jezebel isn't ready for photos as I haven't got the replacement knobs yet. I'll get some photos done when they're fitted! :bassist:


7string; good to hear from you and hope you're well!

I'm really pleased you managed to finally get it sorted after much consideration, and your success leaves me thinking. I love my Melt but it's fairly polite (by my standards - I know what you mean about the J back pickup thing); great for Janek/Victor-type sounds - although I'm more a fan of Janek - but not really gutsy enough for my rock band. I had wondered whether new pickups or electronics would make much of a difference. Of course I may decide to go the new build route before I start changing things on the bass but it's certainly food for thought (of course I haven't tried it passive yet either which may make a big difference). I could always have a word with Martin.

Anyway, great to see Jezebel up and running - wish she'd been ready for Moffat!

What are you going to do with the Schack?
 
I was really aback with the difference that the new pickup made.

All I did was ask Aaron if he could do a big, rockin' pickup and he came up trumps. Not being clued up on pickups, I didn't specify what materials to use or offer thoughts on how it should be wound. I just left it up to Aaron to do his thing.

I did find a big difference in price between Nordstrand and Armstrong pickup with Armstrong being much less expensive. I suppose that because there isn't a middle man or shipping/import charges to pay that the UK product is easier on the wallet.

It would be easier and cheaper to get new pickups for your bass, but who can resist a new build for a dedicated rock bass! Ash body with strings through the body, subtle paint job and big-sounding pickups. Sounds good to me!!
 
Thought I would chime in with my "somewhat old" Sei Bass, this thing of beauty dates from June 1993 and was made in Martins home before he got the shop.

Unfortunatly my gigging days are over so it only gets used a few times a year now. "not enough time I'm afraid"

Its Flamboyant No.008, Wenge & Bubinga neck with Cocobolo facings on body, it's got Bartolini Pup's "neck one is disabled as its faulty" and I've replaced the electrics with a Seymour Duncan setup.

I still spend plenty of time admiring still. Now, I need to give Martin a call and get that Pup replaced.
 

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Thought I would chime in with my "somewhat old" Sei Bass, this thing of beauty dates from June 1993 and was made in Martins home before he got the shop.

Unfortunatly my gigging days are over so it only gets used a few times a year now. "not enough time I'm afraid"

Its Flamboyant No.008, Wenge & Bubinga neck with Cocobolo facings on body, it's got Bartolini Pup's "neck one is disabled as its faulty" and I've replaced the electrics with a Seymour Duncan setup.

I still spend plenty of time admiring still. Now, I need to give Martin a call and get that Pup replaced.

Hi

Those cocobolo facings look wonderful. If you do think about new pups then consider Kent Armstrongs. Thsy are made in this country by his son Aaron who is a genius.

Anyway welcome to the thread.

Regards

Matthew
 
Hey Tank Dave

That's a really gorgeous bass - no matter if you don't play it so much now - my advice is keep hold of it - such an early Sei bass will be worth a few quid in years to come - even now considering it's 16 years old!

Has the sound changed much over the years as the wood has aged and settled? I know the older of my two Seis sounds slightly sweeter and more growly now and that's after almost two years... let me know when you have a mo.

Cheers

Mike
 

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