SG & EB Bass Club

[Bobhmcs]

I love your attitude. Seriously.



We'd expect nothing less.

On a "restoration" note...just flip a coin. Seriously. That's the way I've resolved many "insolvable" dilemmas in my own life...that should scare you right there...

ROFLM$O!
I believe you have solved a dilemma of a different color.
Bob

 

[ajkula66]

ROFLM$O!
I believe you have solved a dilemma of a different color.
Bob

LOL. My methods of solving problems are best discussed in person over a cold drink. While I'm not supposed to be drinking anymore I'd most certainly have a drink with you.

Looking forward to that one.

Stay well.

 

[dmt]

I have been given your wonderings of my travells. This social osterization is driving me crazy (short trip) and I have a severe case of cabin fever. My removal from society is due to the Leukemia I am said to have. Oh and my refusal to wear a mask when I am outside in beautiful weather. Otherwise I am as fit as a Double Bass.
The restoration of the EB3 has slowed quite a bit. I obtained a Mudbucker but there has arisen two camps about this part of the process. One camp is vehemanently(sp?) against removing the Dimarzio Model 1 as it is from the first run in 1972 that put that company on the map and in itself is a vintage piece. The camp that is very pro replacement pushes to return this poor beast to as close to original as it can get. Both camps are quite vocal about there um concerns. Interestingly this is all occurring away from TB. So I am being pulled in opposing directions. I have seriously considered putting it up for sale in the classifieds here on TB just to be done with it. But then I pull it out to either clean it or tune it and all of those 50 years of feelings start flooding back and I start getting the restoration itch again.
Don't worry about me physically I have been exposed to and innoculted against many things much worse. To include my ex (not late) wife. No self respecting bug has a chance inside this body. Self destructing behavior is a whole different subject for another time (jk).
Good to converse with you all and I will be back. That's a guarantee!
Bob

While admittedly it is a bit of a project to change a pickup, a pickup change is hardly an irreversible mod.
I know I'd want to put that mudbucker in, try 'er out for a while and at least see which I prefer (the winner to go [or stay] in).

Or do like Phil Lesh and put in a Bisonic...

With the mudbucker, I'd try it stock, but I'd also try it with clipping the cap that apparently kills so much treble (Ajkula66 can explain the details; I just learned about it from TBer bassobrutto and the link he posted in another thread to the following video: ).

Anyway, that's me - I'm "mudbucker curious". I'm really enjoying my Novak Bisonic-based pickup, but I've had the thought of getting an Epi EB-0 just to try a mudbucker in (and probably eventually mod for fretless). Just a thought at this point (for one, gotta see if my job survives this whole pandemic hoo-ha).

However you decide to handle it, make sure you enjoy that great bass! Don't let the voters (including me) stress you out about it

 

[dmt]

Well, I wasn't happy with the (aftermarket) pickguard so I decided to borrow a concept from the late Andy Fraser...

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The only reason why I put the (also aftermarket) thumbrest back on is the fact that there's a couple of "extra" small holes under it. Not a huge deal but looks better this way IMO.

As a point of interest, only '65 and older EBs can have this done since the later ones have an "open" wiring route that would be exposed without the pickguard in place.

Now it has attitude

 

[Ric5]

While admittedly it is a bit of a project to change a pickup, a pickup change is hardly an irreversible mod.
I know I'd want to put that mudbucker in, try 'er out for a while and at least see which I prefer (the winner to go [or stay] in).

Or do like Phil Lesh and put in a Bisonic...

With the mudbucker, I'd try it stock, but I'd also try it with clipping the cap that apparently kills so much treble (Ajkula66 can explain the details; I just learned about it from TBer bassobrutto and the link he posted in another thread to the following video: ).

Anyway, that's me - I'm "mudbucker curious". I'm really enjoying my Novak Bisonic-based pickup, but I've had the thought of getting an Epi EB-0 just to try a mudbucker in (and probably eventually mod for fretless). Just a thought at this point (for one, gotta see if my job survives this whole pandemic hoo-ha).

However you decide to handle it, make sure you enjoy that great bass! Don't let the voters (including me) stress you out about it

The best part of the Gibson EB basses is the sweet tone when you play the higher notes up the neck …

 

[Ric5]

So I have a crazy idea … a 3 pickup SG bass with 5 strings

 

[ctmullins]

I had that idea a couple of years ago! I just haven't executed it yet....

Let's see what you come up with!

 

[Ric5]

I had that idea a couple of years ago! I just haven't executed it yet....

Let's see what you come up with!

we tend to think alike … but I think you do better work than I do and all of my basses end up with 5 strings

 

[Bobhmcs]

So I have a crazy idea … a 3 pickup SG bass with 5 strings

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As a '69 EB3 and 2019 SG Standard Bass owner might I ask a few questions?
1. Is that a Gibson body?
2. What kind of bridge is that?
3. Are you going to leave tha headstock paddle board or shape it?
You have really piqued my interest. This is one of the more imaginative ideas I have seen in a while. More impressive is that two of you had like ideas.
Bob

 

[ctmullins]

As a '69 EB3 and 2019 SG Standard Bass owner might I ask a few questions?
1. Is that a Gibson body?
2. What kind of bridge is that?
3. Are you going to leave tha headstock paddle board or shape it?
You have really piqued my interest. This is one of the more imaginative ideas I have seen in a while. More impressive is that two of you had like ideas.
Bob

@Ric5 and I are members of a subversive subculture within the larger TalkBass community; our delight is taking conventional ideas and approaches and twisting them all topsy-turvy!

 

[Bobhmcs]

@Ric5 and I are members of a subversive subculture within the larger TalkBass community; our delight is taking conventional ideas and approaches and twisting them all topsy-turvy!

I guess I neglected to mention-I like it!
Bob

 

[Ric5]

As a '69 EB3 and 2019 SG Standard Bass owner might I ask a few questions? Of Course
1. Is that a Gibson body? Nope … Epiphone
2. What kind of bridge is that? a cheap ebay stingray type bridge
3. Are you going to leave the headstock paddle board or shape it? it will be a pointy headstock can you see the pencil sketch on the headstock?
You have really piqued my interest. This is one of the more imaginative ideas I have seen in a while. More impressive is that two of you had like ideas.
Bob



@Bobhmcs check out these links

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass2.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass3.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/8string-sg-bass.htm

 

[bobyoung53]

Good eye you've got, young Jedi...

The cover was there when I got the bass and off it went as soon as I could find a screwdriver. I can't play with that thing mounted, no way no how. Even when I played FSOs I couldn't stand them. My hat's off to anyone who can actually play a P, J or a Gibby with the front handrest in place. Let's not even mention Rickenbacker...

Yup, Ric covers are in the worst possible place, if I had to leave the cover on one I would be plucking right between the cover and the bridge as at least for me the strings are too loose between the neck and the cover, I pluck right over the bridge pickup when I play my Rics. I fact even on a Fender In pluck pretty close to the bridge, never had a Gibson with the cover on it. It's all covers off for me.

 

[Bobhmcs]

As a '69 EB3 and 2019 SG Standard Bass owner might I ask a few questions? Of Course
1. Is that a Gibson body? Nope … Epiphone
2. What kind of bridge is that? a cheap ebay stingray type bridge
3. Are you going to leave the headstock paddle board or shape it? it will be a pointy headstock can you see the pencil sketch on the headstock?
You have really piqued my interest. This is one of the more imaginative ideas I have seen in a while. More impressive is that two of you had like ideas.
Bob



@Bobhmcs check out these links

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass2.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass3.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/8string-sg-bass.htm

Thank you for the link.
In answer to Your question unfortunately I did not see the sketch as the eyes haven't worked so well with fine lines since a little mishap involving a phosphorous device in Desert Storm. But I do see it now and I still like it. ;[)
Keep up the good work.
Bob

 

[bobyoung53]

Thanks! Actually I've been thinking of putting covers on the P, a Highway one from 2003, it is a little naked right now

For some reason I sold the -68 EB0 not so long ago, regret it already .
On the -66 EB3 I actually sometimes use the mute. It gives, as you can quess, a nice thumpin double bass type of sound, works fine for some old schol songs, however most of the times the mute is off. I also run it with the selector "in between" positions 2 and 3, this settting does not engage the choke, giving a fatter sound from the neck pickup. Add to this just a hint of overdrive and you have a super rock sound

The mute is very easy to use, just slide it towards the bridge pup, this makes it raise against the strings.

The EB is also equipped with flats, as most of my basses are. Only the Rick and my Orville Thunderbird wear rounds.

It's very easy to put in a smaller choke, you can then use pos 3 (both pickups) and still get plenty of bottom, you can also just take it right out of the circuit by clipping the lead on one end. I unhooked the choke in my EB-2C also because I have never had any use for the "baritone" sound, it has a much more open tone now especially on the higher notes up the neck.

 

[Bobhmcs]

As a '69 EB3 and 2019 SG Standard Bass owner might I ask a few questions? Of Course
1. Is that a Gibson body? Nope … Epiphone
2. What kind of bridge is that? a cheap ebay stingray type bridge
3. Are you going to leave the headstock paddle board or shape it? it will be a pointy headstock can you see the pencil sketch on the headstock?
You have really piqued my interest. This is one of the more imaginative ideas I have seen in a while. More impressive is that two of you had like ideas.
Bob



@Bobhmcs check out these links

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass2.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/5string-sg-bass3.htm

http://www.3dentourage.com/425/8string-sg-bass.htm

Oh I almost forgot the golden rule!
Bob

 

[Aceonbass]

So I have a crazy idea … a 3 pickup SG bass with 5 strings

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It might be a good idea to use smaller pickups, and move them back a bit. If you put a route that big right behind the neck pocket, then add 200+lbs of string pressure, the neck is likely to pitch forward.

 

[Ric5]

It might be a good idea to use smaller pickups, and move them back a bit. If you put a route that big right behind the neck pocket, then add 200+lbs of string pressure, the neck is likely to pitch forward.

the neck pickup route is already there … and I have already done this type of bass 4 times with no problems … and no I am not going to fill it with a wood block … the whole point of an SG or EB bass is the neck pickup … and if it fails so what … it is a cheap parts … there are thousands of the Epiphone bolt on neck eb0 basses out there, and none of them ever have a neck pocket failure

sorta like this bass here the neck pickup is important

and this one

 

[Mvf]

It's very easy to put in a smaller choke, you can then use pos 3 (both pickups) and still get plenty of bottom, you can also just take it right out of the circuit by clipping the lead on one end. I unhooked the choke in my EB-2C also because I have never had any use for the "baritone" sound, it has a much more open tone now especially on the higher notes up the neck.

Yep, I've thought already for some time about clipping the lead after reading about some TB:er doing that. And when you say it also opens up the sound of the mudbucker, and it is totally reversible, so why not. I go and get my pliers... I guess I will then have the same sound/setting in both pos 1 and 4?

 

[dmt]

the neck pickup route is already there … and I have already done this type of bass 4 times with no problems … and no I am going to fill it with a wood block … the whole point of an SG or EB bass is the neck pickup … and if it fails so what … it is a cheap parts … there are thousands of the Epiphone bolt on neck eb0 basses out there, and none of them ever have a neck pocket failure

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sorta like this bass here the neck pickup is important

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and this one

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