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SG & EB Bass Club

I've never played it through a GK, that's gotta be grindy and then some.

Fender for me nowadays, non-vintage, non-valve. Probably going to go back to an older Trace Elliot if I live to retire next year.
Mean. But not grindy like say a fender thru the GK. Even in a brightish amp like the GK the EB don't do bright. Lol. When I played Jazzes and P-Basses, I always had a Way Huge Pork Loin on to darken and fatten the tone. The EB0 needs no such thing.
 
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I've been intrigued by that Novak pickup for a while, but I don't have a bass to put it in...and honestly don't feel like spending money just for the fun of it.
That's pretty much how I feel about a mudbucker. I love the sound I hear in recordings, but I've heard and read so much negative stuff about them over the years that I never got one. But my ears tell me, from recordings anyway, that a mudbucker would be right up my alley.

So, I'm intruiged as ever, but right now I'm enjoying the Novak pickup and still learning it and how it suits my music, etc. that I have no inclination to change it out. Which means - if I did get a mudbucker, I'd have to buy a new bass to put it into (or buy a bass with a mudbucker/sidewinder already in it). But...I already truly have more than enough basses! Not to mention this covid economy is worrisome.

One thought has been to get an Epi EB-0, convert it to fretless and put an old Gibson mudbucker/sidewinder (or a current reproduction thereof) in it. Scratch the nagging fretless itch I've got whilst also getting to check out the pickup. In particular, I thought that was a pretty cool fretless tone in that video I posted here in the Club a couple of months ago - very uprightish in a way.

But, it's hardly essential and I don't feel like spending the money right now. Finally, there's competition for filling the unnecessary last one or two bass slots in my little collection: a Les Paul Jr. DC Tribute (swapping in an old Thunderbird-style pickup), an Am. Perf. Mustang (another possible fretless conversion candidate) and/or a Thunderbird of some sort (traditional pickups in a used Gibby, or maybe an Epi Vintage Pro with rosewood fretboard)
 
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That's pretty much how I feel about a mudbucker. I love the sound I hear in recordings, but I've heard and read so much negative stuff about them over the years that I never got one. But my ears tell me, from recordings anyway, that a mudbucker would be right up my alley.

For recording purposes, I use the Sidewinder blended with Bartolini about 80% of the time. Unless one has a specific purpose for a "soloed" Mudbucker - which is maybe 15% for my needs - they should count on blending it with something.

This perspective changes if one is looking for a "doomy gloomy wall of sound"...:bassist:

But, it's hardly essential and I don't feel like spending the money right now. Finally, there's competition for filling the unnecessary last one or two bass slots in my little collection: a Les Paul Jr. DC Tribute (swapping in an old Thunderbird-style pickup), an Am. Perf. Mustang (another possible fretless conversion candidate) and/or a Thunderbird of some sort (traditional pickups in a used Gibby, or maybe an Epi Vintage Pro with rosewood fretboard)

I *love* your concept of "unnecessary" basses...:thumbsup:

Have several competing for those slots myself...but not anytime soon.

On a different note, Epi VP is a great instrument that you probably won't regret buying. I bought one for my bass-playing-son but it ended up being returned at the beginning of the whole C-19 mess. Definitely on my shopping list, albeit not for myself.

Back to the thread topic, here's the latest shot of my trio

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Orville is now strung BEAD with La Bella White Nylon Tapewounds and I'm finally getting to love that bass after almost a year of owning it.
 
the Cat was mentioned as one of the pedals that could cop the dry broad wave distortion heard in the video but I've not had a chance to know. the last thing needed is fuzz etc. to fizz things up if going for the throat like that. I'm obsessed with mudbuckers but am now leaning towards thinking the PU's power being less of a factor and just those overdriven Sunns being uniquely suited for that sound despite Jimi thinking they were too clean.
pole pieces are always an issue but I've seen mods posted here to nullify the problem by extending the field with hex head keys, worth a try.
I don't know how different they are from Felix's bass amps, but these Sunns (they same exact kind Jimi got rid of?) don't sound too clean here:
 
For recording purposes, I use the Sidewinder blended with Bartolini about 80% of the time. Unless one has a specific purpose for a "soloed" Mudbucker - which is maybe 15% for my needs - they should count on blending it with something.

This perspective changes if one is looking for a "doomy gloomy wall of sound"...:bassist:



I *love* your concept of "unnecessary" basses...:thumbsup:

Have several competing for those slots myself...but not anytime soon.

On a different note, Epi VP is a great instrument that you probably won't regret buying. I bought one for my bass-playing-son but it ended up being returned at the beginning of the whole C-19 mess. Definitely on my shopping list, albeit not for myself.

Back to the thread topic, here's the latest shot of my trio

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Orville is now strung BEAD with La Bella White Nylon Tapewounds and I'm finally getting to love that bass after almost a year of owning it.
Cool collection. So the middle one is a converted (routed out) EB-0, it seems. For the other two, are those the first year (i believe it was) Gibson pickups with the Bakelite covers, or are those DiMarzio Model Ones in the neck slot
 
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Cool collection. So the middle one is a converted (routed out) EB-0, it seems. For the other two, are those the first year (i believe it was) Gibson pickups with the Bakelite covers, or are those DiMarzio Model Ones in the neck slot

The '63 on the far left sports its original black Sidewinder. The Orville on the far right has Jerry Sentell's "Unmudbucker" in the neck position. I was never a fan of DiMarzio Model One, or most of their pickups in general.

Sentell's pickup has a very broad, warm sound. Pretty unique and might not appeal to everyone. Not much dirt there at all, which I like.

I would also say that they go from the grindiest/most aggressive on the left to the cleanest and most polite on the right...;)
 
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I don't know how different they are from Felix's bass amps, but these Sunns (they same exact kind Jimi got rid of?) don't sound too clean here:
that's some of Leslie's stash that Al got but Felix may have used a head or two from Les' besides Jimi's cos I've seen a mix of heads on his side. why Jimi wasn't into the Sunn heads IDK, I'd guess the quality of the distortion was the issue, he kept some cabs but wasn't as happy as the Mountain twins were with that set up and went back to his Marshall heads.
 
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when I was looking for a pickup change from the stock SG bass pickup, I could easily guess that a ceramic DiMarzio wasn't gonna be for me

I was pretty much in the same boat when I was looking to replace the neck pickup on the Orville. It came down to the choice between Sentell and Novak. I liked the Sentell clips that someone (ctmullins ? I think?) posted in this thread AND it was less expensive so I pulled the trigger on that one.
 
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Out of curiosity, what amp do you fellow mudbuckerlovers play thru? Fwiw, I play a GK 800rb into a GK neo412.
Fender Rumble V3. I choose between my R100c, R200c and for the big gigs the R500h and two 1*15 Rumble cabs. Gives a really nice old school sound, and the bult in over drive also works really well with the my all original EB3 1966, so I add that sometimes for some grind.
 
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what were your pros vs cons regarding the Arctec? if you know the difference, how did the Arctec replacement compare to the average original 30k mudbucker? they seem to look the same, claim to read the same, and if they do the same exact job as the original I just bought then knowing the scoop can save time and money bothering with more generic late '60s examples I'm considering for projects.

The Ibanez originally didn't have a 30k sidewinder.
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The (borrowed) picture above shows that the Ibanez copy's had a different size neck humbucker. And a bigger bridge pickup. I bought that body without electronics, so there wasn't anything to compare. I think the original neck pickup measured something like 12 to 14 k, so more like the Model One.

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The original cavity was broadened first to fit in a Cruciannelli toaster humbucker.
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Later it was made larger again to fit in the Artec mudbucker.
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Pro's of the Artec: deep mellow bass tone.
Cons: hardly reacts on treble adjusting, just mellow, not very dynamic or clear.
 
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Fender Rumble V3. I choose between my R100c, R200c and for the big gigs the R500h and two 1*15 Rumble cabs. Gives a really nice old school sound, and the bult in over drive also works really well with the my all original EB3 1966, so I add that sometimes for some grind.

Another Rumble Stack here! 2 10 Combo on a 1 12 cab. I add a secret ingredient, a hand made Jessup clone of the Sun 2000s preamp complete with Bass Boost switch. I don't go for much overdrive, I expect I will be able lean into the the JB EB0 to make it happen. God I need a gig to let it rip!
 
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God I need a gig to let it rip!

I have a V4B with a custom cabinet that I designed sitting in a room 5,000 miles away, waiting for me to retire and finally have it serviced and put it to use again. Sadly, I doubt that an occasion will rise for me to actually put it on the stage again. Even if I were to ever perform live in the future - which is doubtful at best - I'd have to pay someone to take it out of the apartment and bring it back in, since neither my back nor my knees are in condition to deal with heavy gear nowadays...