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SHARAY REED-VERY SICK GROOVE!!!!!!!
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You beat me to the AJ reference. First thing that popped in my head. Fat fingerstyle with complete control and fluidity all over the neck, and DEEP in the pocket! I like that he copped a darker tone there. I've always wanted a Deluxe Fender in my stable as well. That clip didn't help!!!
I suspect Joel Smith, the Oakland Gospel bassist, is an influence too. I know Joel Smith is a huge Anthony Jackson fan from a feature article on him in Bass Player back in the 1990s.
I suspect Joel Smith, the Oakland Gospel bassist, is an influence too. I know Joel Smith is a huge Anthony Jackson fan from a feature article on him in Bass Player back in the 1990s.
Is that the issue with Sam Scott in it from the Mississippi Mass Choir as well? I still have that one if it is.
Here's Joel Smith doing a lead bass set. The sound quality is not good, but you can hear his chops:
IMHO thats THE clasic gospel tone. Very active sounding, sits well in the mix with the organs and keys and choirBig bottom, big groove kind of agressive sounding. You need that when you are playing that type of music IMHO. The classic passive Fender tone doesn't work as well in that situation. Great stuff I wish there were more videos of him out there.
Why does everyone go to the equipment first? Blah, blah blah equipment... 90% of that sound, vibe and groove comes from his playing. The equipment doesn't matter too much. That technique of pinching the strings just right to draw out a whole lot of mids while playing staccato brings out more of the tone then anything he's playing with or through.
The sound of how he plays, as well as Meshell and others has so much more to do with getting the feel, the groove, and timing down then it does with the tone. I don't think it would matter if someone stole his exact bass he was playing, and his amp, and set all the dials exactly the way he had set them, they wouldn't sound like he does unless you can match his technique, style and feel.
If in the middle of him playing, someone somehow magically replaced his bass with something else that he felt pretty comfortable on (active passive, whatever, doesn't matter), and got some other amp with the dials set flat, no body would notice the difference in sound except for Mr. Reed (and a few ultra geeky gearhead TB'ers who probably miss the point anyway).
If someone wants to sound and play like him, they better get the technique, feel, and groove down absolutely perfectly. Worrying about the equipment to use to get that sound (or getting this type of genre of bass playing down) should be dead last on your list of things to do so that you sound like him. Dead last. Why even discuss his equipment?
+1 of course. And again, per my previous post, that was an OT discussion that bled over from another thread, and should have not been brought up in this one. So, again, apologies
Back to the grooves of these wonderful players.
He threw in a run of double stops!
Man, you can never get enough of Sharay's playing. I wish he'd showed up here on TB and discuss this with us!
Why does everyone go to the equipment first? Blah, blah blah equipment... 90% of that sound, vibe and groove comes from his playing. The equipment doesn't matter too much. That technique of pinching the strings just right to draw out a whole lot of mids while playing staccato brings out more of the tone then anything he's playing with or through.
The sound of how he plays, as well as Meshell and others has so much more to do with getting the feel, the groove, and timing down then it does with the tone. I don't think it would matter if someone stole his exact bass he was playing, and his amp, and set all the dials exactly the way he had set them, they wouldn't sound like he does unless you can match his technique, style and feel.
If in the middle of him playing, someone somehow magically replaced his bass with something else that he felt pretty comfortable on (active passive, whatever, doesn't matter), and got some other amp with the dials set flat, no body would notice the difference in sound except for Mr. Reed (and a few ultra geeky gearhead TB'ers who probably miss the point anyway).
I beg to differ. Thats an old cliché thats far too over used and basically played out IMHO. I know it's not the politically correct thing to say around here
I'm not saying that low priced gear is bad, but when you play for a living, you want gear that you don't have to worry about.
Fortunately for us these days we have many many great choices. As far as his playing style and technique, I can't argue with you there
Do you mean where he's sliding the 10ths around? First one is d + f# sliding down in half steps to c + e. First note on E string, second one on the G string.
Amazing player, he reminds me a lot of Anthony Jackson on Whatcha Gonna Do For Me and Nate Watts (two of my faves too!).
I beg to differ. Thats an old cliché thats far too over used and basically played out IMHO. I know it's not the politically correct thing to say around here
I'm not saying that low priced gear is bad, but when you play for a living, you want gear that you don't have to worry about.
Fortunately for us these days we have many many great choices. As far as his playing style and technique, I can't argue with you there
I think you might be missing the basic point. Gear does not matter as much as many people seem to need to believe it does.
I am not saying gear does not matter. That tends to be assumed whenever I bring this point up. Sharay is a great example of someone getting excellent results with a very standard bass format... that's not boutique. If the bass itself were truly lacking, so would his performance.
I would say that gear matters to the point where if you have to wrestle with an instrument, you can't play as well as if you played the instrument with ease. Also, if you're slapping and you have to thump extra hard or pop extra hard just to get the sound you want then it would more than likely slow you down compared to if all you had to do is lightly thump it or pull up slightly. Tone-wise your personal technique plays a big role but if you can't play an instrument fluently then you would have to alter your technique to get results which would, in turn, change your overall tone, IMO anyway.
While this is true, in way too many cases the instrument isn't what's keeping the player from doing something they can do on another bass... because they can't do it on any bass.
This thread on Sharay Reed has been inspiring at a number of levels. First, it really shows how we live in a new media era. Sharay is a Chicago bassist playing in a local church, yet his performances are seen worldwide, and he has a CD we can purchase.
Second, he is a great reminder of how much study and practice matter when it comes to greatness. Unlike the latest slap lick, you just can't do what he does without some serious study time.
Third, the fact that he apparently is using pretty non-descript, off the shelf gear (I saw a well worn Jazz like his for $534 at a GC about a year ago), should remind all of us that there is a lot of potential in our instruments, but we as players have to be prepared to do the work to get that potential out to the world.
Second, he is a great reminder of how much study and practice matter when it comes to greatness. Unlike the latest slap lick, you just can't do what he does without some serious study time.
Third, the fact that he apparently is using pretty non-descript, off the shelf gear (I saw a well worn Jazz like his for $534 at a GC about a year ago), should remind all of us that there is a lot of potential in our instruments, but we as players have to be prepared to do the work to get that potential out to the world.
The more I listen to him, the more I hear an Anthony Jackson influence. Starting around 4:21 to 4:50 or so of the most recent clip, I hear some phrasing and attack that really makes me think of AJ.
It is also so fun to check out his fan section react to him. I was checking out the guy holding what I think is a Marcus Miller V. I wonder if he got to play? I know if I followed Sharay, I would really keep it pretty simple because I cannot begin to get all of the chord connections he can.
It is also so fun to check out his fan section react to him. I was checking out the guy holding what I think is a Marcus Miller V. I wonder if he got to play? I know if I followed Sharay, I would really keep it pretty simple because I cannot begin to get all of the chord connections he can.
