Short scale Stingray!

[grrg63]

The new PG almost disappears in some light. At other angles, you can clearly see the outline of it. I really wanted the outline to be obvious...sort of a MM signature with the shape of it.

I think it looks incredible.

 

[daveobieone]

Thanks for the kind comments everyone!
I'm really sorry for the multiple posts of the pics. I don't understand why that happened.
The clear PG isn't for everyone, just like the Starry Night finish isn't for everyone. But they are for me!

I'm considering AJ's black-out treatment for the rest of it. I really like that! Might make the sparkle's jump out even more. I guess there's still no off the shelf source for the control plate?

Dave O.

 

[TK4261]

My clear pickguard finally arrived.
The good news is, it fit perfectly! The bevels around the screw heads even lined up perfectly.

I've attached a few pics. The LED lighting in my house does some slightly odd things to the pics taken by my Nikon D300 camera, but you will get the idea.
The new PG almost disappears in some light. At other angles, you can clearly see the outline of it. I really wanted the outline to be obvious...sort of a MM signature with the shape of it.

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Oh I missed your pics the first time..Just saw it and yes the Clear pickguard on the Starry Night looks really, really good...So tempted to get one. I just recently received a Matte Black pickguard for my Starry night from Chandler. Great Stuff!

 

[daveobieone]

Oh I missed your pics the first time..Just saw it and yes the Clear pickguard on the Starry Night looks really, really good...So tempted to get one. I just recently received a Matte Black pickguard for my Starry night from Chandler. Great Stuff!

I hope yours fits as well as my clear one did. Chandler seems to have a really good template for these basses.
Dave O.

 

[TK4261]

I hope yours fits as well as my clear one did. Chandler seems to have a really good template for these basses.
Dave O.

Yes, It fit perfect Looks like the clear on their site is 1/8" thick. Is the clear much thicker than your original?

 

[daveobieone]

Yes, It fit perfect Looks like the clear on their site is 1/8" thick. Is the clear much thicker than your original?

To be honest, I hadn't even noticed till you asked.
Yes, my new clear one is just slightly thicker than the original. Maybe 1mm. Not enough that I could really even tell until I laid the old one on the bass with the new one. These basses have pretty good clearance between the strings and the PG.
Dave O.

 

[Tina]

If I got it right the bodies of these basses are (slightly) smaller than the "regular" Sting Rays -
the necks are the same width though, and the headstocks are the same size, yes?

Just wondering why they didn't scale down the headstocks a bit; would make sense visually / look a bit less "toy like" if they did I think.

 

[Ricky Rioli]

They are passive. Think of the boost as removing the governor..

I've searched through the whole of this thread, and I've tried google searches as well, trying to find out if EBMM ever unveiled their thinking behind choosing to make this SS version passive. My guess is that by doing so you allowed it to find its own character, and not simply be judged as the little brother. Alternatively, adding a 2nd difference gives existing SR owners more reason to buy one.

 

[Protagonist]

I've searched through the whole of this thread, and I've tried google searches as well, trying to find out if EBMM ever unveiled their thinking behind choosing to make this SS version passive. My guess is that by doing so you allowed it to find its own character, and not simply be judged as the little brother. Alternatively, adding a 2nd difference gives existing SR owners more reason to buy one.

It's been popular enough and I guess well reviewed enough that they're making a special edition full size Stingray with the same passive electronics. They weren't making many though. It got mentioned in the SBMM short scale thread.

 

[Kubicki Fan]

If I got it right the bodies of these basses are (slightly) smaller than the "regular" Sting Rays -
the necks are the same width though, and the headstocks are the same size, yes?

Just wondering why they didn't scale down the headstocks a bit; would make sense visually / look a bit less "toy like" if they did I think.

A recent thread includes a side-by-side of a shortie and a regular Stingray. Looking at that, I`d say the same sized head stock. It looks like a bass and not a toy, don`t worry.
NBD!! A tale of two EBMMs-but only one remained mine

 

[Kubicki Fan]

It's been popular enough and I guess well reviewed enough that they're making a special edition full size Stingray with the same passive electronics. They weren't making many though. It got mentioned in the SBMM short scale thread.

They are making around 80 of these BFR Passive Stingray`s.

 

[Protagonist]

They are making around 80 of these BFR Passive Stingray`s.

That's the one! Had to double check that price wasn't in $US. Looks like it's about $2500 USD.

 

[AjCalderon]

I have further questions.

a) did you consider black strings? Not a fan myself but it would kinda make sense here

b) do these people really lay basses like that on the floor at their workshop?

Yea I tried to locate short scale strings in black but haven’t had any luck yet. DR made some for a little bit but haven’t in a while from what I can find.

that’s the floor at my house where the sparkle finish showed up best lol.

 

[AjCalderon]

Thanks for the kind comments everyone!
I'm really sorry for the multiple posts of the pics. I don't understand why that happened.
The clear PG isn't for everyone, just like the Starry Night finish isn't for everyone. But they are for me!

I'm considering AJ's black-out treatment for the rest of it. I really like that! Might make the sparkle's jump out even more. I guess there's still no off the shelf source for the control plate?

Dave O.

As far as I know not yet. I told music man customer service to hit me up if they ever make it cause I’ll buy it. Maybe after this years NAMM they’ll do a shortie with black hardware that we can get the panel from.

 

[Tina]

that’s the floor at my house where the sparkle finish showed up best lol.

Ha!

That sparkle finish is indeed something; I think it was in one video from the NAMM booth where I saw it "in action" for the first time (guy moving around the bass and it made it all come "alive", looked awesome..)
Would love to see it in the flesh, but doubt this will be happening soon with the lockdown and all, plus I think not really a lot of those have made it to Europe..

 

[AjCalderon]

Ha!

That sparkle finish is indeed something; I think it was in one video from the NAMM booth where I saw it "in action" for the first time (guy moving around the bass and it made it all come "alive", looked awesome..)
Would love to see it in the flesh, but doubt this will be happening soon with the lockdown and all, plus I think not really a lot of those have made it to Europe..

yea it’s really stunning in person but now I have the problem of wanting/needing more sparkle basses and guitars...

 

[Adee]

My clear pickguard finally arrived.
The good news is, it fit perfectly! The bevels around the screw heads even lined up perfectly.

That looks excellent and now makes it unique to you! It is a difficult finish to photograph,
it never looks as stunning as it looks in the flesh

 

[Antisyzygy]

I have a USA G&L 2000. a Custom Clement 4 string, a Japanese Ibanez Prestige SR4005, but the cheaper SBMM Stingray shortscale is now my favorite bass

It's pretty amazing they can get this build quality for the price. It's a very nice bass. I cannot believe this SBMM has all the features it has for 50 USD less than the Fallout. It's quite a bit nicer for the price than other shorties available.

 

[Antisyzygy]

I had some LaBella flats on mine briefly, and they were fine, but I wanted a bit more brightness. I settled on the GHS pressure wounds, and I'm really glad I did.

They are a great compromise between flats and rounds. I have them on a bunch of my bass's now. Their short-scale offering fits the MM perfectly.

Dave O.

I often use cobalt flats on my long scale basses for that extra brightness but I am not sure they make them in short scale.

 

[Antisyzygy]

I've searched through the whole of this thread, and I've tried google searches as well, trying to find out if EBMM ever unveiled their thinking behind choosing to make this SS version passive. My guess is that by doing so you allowed it to find its own character, and not simply be judged as the little brother. Alternatively, adding a 2nd difference gives existing SR owners more reason to buy one.

Im confused by it also. I could understand why the import is made this way, however, the USA model is also passive.

I wonder if it has something to do with the pickup. It's supposedly some new design they did. If you use more powerful magnets like they are using it can sort of simulate active electronics. It requires less winding for the same oomph, producing a lower impedance pickup, or a higher resonant frequency typically (i.e. the sound is open ended, brighter sort of).

G&L does this with their MFDs but they use ceramic magnets that are stronger than AlNiCos, if I recall. If you check the resistance of a MFD you'll notice it's lower than vintage pickups.

If this thing was hardwired series mode I could see having a passive bass roll off (like G&Ls sometimes have) + tone knob to sort of fake out active electronics.

I also wonder if they didn't decide to use the neo magnets so it pulls on the string a bit more, and produces a "stingray" tone in a shorty. Maybe it saps some energy from the string on purpose there.