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Should I be reimbursed?
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Haven't been here long, but I'm really starting to notice that OPs disappear when they don't get the answer they're looking for.
My thoughts.....take them as you will....
1. 3 hours to record? Big deal.....it's obvious your heart is not in it which means yout should not have agreed to the project in the first place.
2. The guitarist can record your parts better than you? Really? If that is the case, perhaps you should spend less time asking the Internet their opinion and more time practicing. I'm not trying to offend, just being real. Find me a guitar player that could play my parts better than me and you wouldnt see my studio door open until I emerged victorious. Maybe it's a matter of pride, but perhaps you have put the cart before the horse.
3. Money back? No way. You broke an agreement and left your band mates high and dry. You should be writing them an apology letter if anything. After that, consider how you spend your money and uphold your commitments. .....seems like it could use some work.
Again, not trying to offend, just giving an honest opinion.
1. 3 hours to record? Big deal.....it's obvious your heart is not in it which means yout should not have agreed to the project in the first place.
2. The guitarist can record your parts better than you? Really? If that is the case, perhaps you should spend less time asking the Internet their opinion and more time practicing. I'm not trying to offend, just being real. Find me a guitar player that could play my parts better than me and you wouldnt see my studio door open until I emerged victorious. Maybe it's a matter of pride, but perhaps you have put the cart before the horse.
3. Money back? No way. You broke an agreement and left your band mates high and dry. You should be writing them an apology letter if anything. After that, consider how you spend your money and uphold your commitments. .....seems like it could use some work.
Again, not trying to offend, just giving an honest opinion.
Best response so far. OP, listen to this guy. It may come across as harsh, but he is spot-on.
So, you knew that you'd be out and still payed?
You can ask for the money back, but I wouldn't expect anything.
Reading through this thread, there's nothing I can add that's not already been said before in regards to asking for your money back.
The only thing I will say though is that reading your replies and this thread, it almost seems as though you are trying to come across as a victim in this. You ask a question which is followed up with some weak excuses as to why you may be entitled to the money back. Having the feeling you may get kicked out after the recording session was only a feeling and can't be used as an argument. Being pressured? Well just have some will power and say no next time.
You essentially entered into a verbal contract with them that you would do something and then you backed out. Why should they have to then suffer for your lack of conviction in regards to you agreeing to do something?
The only thing I will say though is that reading your replies and this thread, it almost seems as though you are trying to come across as a victim in this. You ask a question which is followed up with some weak excuses as to why you may be entitled to the money back. Having the feeling you may get kicked out after the recording session was only a feeling and can't be used as an argument. Being pressured? Well just have some will power and say no next time.
You essentially entered into a verbal contract with them that you would do something and then you backed out. Why should they have to then suffer for your lack of conviction in regards to you agreeing to do something?
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
1. You agreed to the session knowing where the recording would be done.
2. You bailed.
You can ask, but I don't think you have a case.
Now, if they had changed the location after you gave them the money, things might be different. Might.
2. You bailed.
You can ask, but I don't think you have a case.
Now, if they had changed the location after you gave them the money, things might be different. Might.
this is your F up. You gave them the money, then backed out of tracking at the studio when it became a time issue. You have two choices - 1 - eat it and get known as a flake. or
2 - get an app like Garage band (I use Cubase) or better that will track and export at 48. Get a good audio interface. Have the studio email you MP3's of rough mixes. Drop the MP3s into GB and track the bass, straight in and with your amp - that is, two separate tracks. make certain that you record your bass tracks from the very start of the MP3 tracks. Do not use any effects or compression - raw tracks only. Once you have tracks you like then export them- the bass tracks only - as aif /wav and email them back, one at a time, or drop box them both ways.
This is what you should have done from the beginning, once you knew that you couldn't deliver in the time constraints - you bailed, instead of trying to find a way to make it work.
2 - get an app like Garage band (I use Cubase) or better that will track and export at 48. Get a good audio interface. Have the studio email you MP3's of rough mixes. Drop the MP3s into GB and track the bass, straight in and with your amp - that is, two separate tracks. make certain that you record your bass tracks from the very start of the MP3 tracks. Do not use any effects or compression - raw tracks only. Once you have tracks you like then export them- the bass tracks only - as aif /wav and email them back, one at a time, or drop box them both ways.
This is what you should have done from the beginning, once you knew that you couldn't deliver in the time constraints - you bailed, instead of trying to find a way to make it work.
In a word: No. was $800 your contribution or the total? If your contribution I would have done the 4 hours
Just thinking out loud here: If the OP invested $800 in the recording project, which will be used to press CD's, which most bands use to generate income from sales and gain exposure to secure better bookings, would he not be entitled to a percentage of the gross (or net)? Him not actually playing on the tracks does not seem to be an issue. Think of him as an investor, not a kick-starter.
Some of the replies in this thread really make me laugh.
Ever heard of Kieth Richards, Jimi Hendrix or Ron Wood?
I know a lot of guitar players that can play a bass as good or better than most full time bassists.
As far as th OP goes,
You dropped the ball and threw your money away.
Ever heard of Kieth Richards, Jimi Hendrix or Ron Wood?
I know a lot of guitar players that can play a bass as good or better than most full time bassists.
As far as th OP goes,
You dropped the ball and threw your money away.
Seems to be the case 90% of the time, but I've been absent because I was on a date.
Just to update, I have received half the money, and should receive the rest by the end of the month.
In your face talkbass!
But I have been laughing at how seriously some of you guys have been taking the situation. I'm still a teenager, and my friends are in their early 20s, what do you expect from me? Haha.
I guess older musicians have a different perspective on this type of stuff, but I do appreciate the feedback
I guess older musicians have a different perspective on this type of stuff, but I do appreciate the feedback
I tend to want to keep my word if I give it, and not give it if I can't keep it. That's how I was raised since I was a child, but *shrug*.
People here expect you to be clear and give facts that make sense when you ask for help. They also can't be expected to know your age or more info than you give.
Now you wonder why they took you seriously? Would you prefer they had not, and insulted you or belittled your problem?
Would you prefer to be treated like a kid than an adult here? Just some things to think about. Not a big deal but life is about how you treat people and how you are treated by them, it's never too early to be responsible for what happens to you in life, and to take responsibility for yourself.
okcrum
in your chest
$800 divided by 5 (OP did say he paid 1/5, right?) is $160.
Did division go out of style while I was woodshedding?
In any event, OP's reaction here is too little, too late. He should have declined the session offer in the first place. He has every right to ask for the $160 back, understanding the odds of getting it are slim to none.
Your word counts, and going back on it is a career (or hobby) limiting move in this business.
Did division go out of style while I was woodshedding?
In any event, OP's reaction here is too little, too late. He should have declined the session offer in the first place. He has every right to ask for the $160 back, understanding the odds of getting it are slim to none.
Your word counts, and going back on it is a career (or hobby) limiting move in this business.
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