Macs are lame. Just straight up, even if you do somehow put windows on it, that only makes it marginally better.
Macs are no good. Thats the truth.
Macs are no good. Thats the truth.
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Should I go Mac?
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Office, python, Putty, photoshop, dreamweaver, Dydacomps MOM point of sale system, generally all open at once, I work my ass off on a PC.
Look, it's cool if you like Mac better, they are really nice machines, but don't be a weird zealot about it, stick to reality.
Ah see i think it was on the other thread. But i still use a PC regularly. Mostly as storage and a media center..there ARE somethings mac don't do. I was basically trying to stay on topic on why he SHOULD get a Mac. Everyone here hasn't been able to give a proper reason why he shouldn't or giving him like "LAWL @ MAC N WINDOZE WARE IZ R00T?"
As a student nothing beats Apple's warranty services either ;-)
Informed users of IE will find that spyware is not an issue for them either.
-Mike
If thats true, then thats a big plus in my book. I also hear system failures and shut downs are non-existant as well. Can you vouch for that?
You should definitely check the Macs out! I've had a powerbook for more than a year and a half now and I haven't experienced a single problem. Never crashed. Never got a virus or spyware. It's awesome.
Masher88
Believe in absurdities and you commit atrocities
Not many hackers are creating viruses for Macs...(yet?), so that's a big plus. I never have to worry about DLing files and running them through antivirus software
I honestly can't figure out where all of this "Windows is so unstable!" crap comes from. Anyone who knows anything about maintaining a computer won't have problems with Windows. I've been running Windows since I've started using computers and haven't had one major issue with it.
The only people I know (personally) who have these problems with Windows are people that don't know how to maintain it. They use Macs because they're too lazy to learn the workings of a computer.
The only people I know (personally) who have these problems with Windows are people that don't know how to maintain it. They use Macs because they're too lazy to learn the workings of a computer.
Not even that. I just don't go on websites that are obviously porn/scams/spyware. Bam, suddenly it's all stable, no viruses, no spyware.
A virus can't get to your system if you don't download any garbage. Go to safe websites and you'll be fine.
The only times I've had problems with my PC is when I wanted to play around with it by overclocking the CPU or putting in new parts and not deleting the old drivers -- i.e. it was entirely my fault.
A virus can't get to your system if you don't download any garbage. Go to safe websites and you'll be fine.
The only times I've had problems with my PC is when I wanted to play around with it by overclocking the CPU or putting in new parts and not deleting the old drivers -- i.e. it was entirely my fault.
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Most people (in my experience, anyways) don't understand how things like this get onto your computer. Thus, they can't take care of it, and thus, they blame Windows for their problems. It's all about taking care of your computer.
I use my work XP machine for software development and I can leave it on for months without having to reboot. I can even remote desktop in from home and have my work desktop at home. Then when I go back in, I re-log in and I'm back to where I was.
I really don't care if someone wants to use a mac but there is a lot of misinformation here about PCs and XP. Based on my experience, XP is very stable. I have a Mac in my office too and I hate it. That's a whole other story. My XP machine has never frozen or crashed. My Mac has frozen and/or crashed many times in the first few months. After that, I avoided it whenever possible. I use it as a 200Gig iPod right now.
Here's my take; if you want to look cool at Starbucks and like pretty graphics, get a Mac. If you just want to get work done and be productive, get a PC with WinXP. If you want to spend a whole lot of time just messing around with the OS and applications to get them to do what you want, get Linux.
- Dave
I agree. As long as you keep your system up to date and you're careful about where you go and what you run (e.g. stuff people send you via email, etc.) you'll be fine.
I got infected by some Gater adware once many years ago at my old job but that was because I inadvertently clicked on a "Yes" button for some Gater-ware that wanted to install itself from some web site (a legit site). That was my mistake. It was resolved by IT within a few hours.
I've never gotten a virus, spyware or adware on any other computer in my life.
- Dave
Hey, I realize I'm a little late to this thread, but I've just recently returned to TB after a long break, so cut me some slack. 
I switched from PC to Mac about a year ago. iBook G4. There are definitely some misconceptions on both sides of the Mac vs PC argument and a lot of it doesn't make any sense either way. It can be confusing for a consumer to get 'real facts' (do I sound like an infomercial yet?). Maybe I can clear a few things up.
Let's talk hardware first. With a Mac, unless you get the Mac Pro, you're going to be a bit stuck as far as upgrading goes. With laptops this isn't much of a problem, they're hard to pgrade anything past the hard drive no matter the manufacturer. From every Mac I've owned, used, or otherwise seen, they are built with a great quality. I'd say from the qualit of parts etc. that Macs are at least equal if not superior to similarly priced options.
Also, because upgradability is a bit limited, Apple knows pretty much what built-in hardware is being used. This is a real plus for stability because unlike whatever Frankenbox that Windows has to load on, Apple can build their OS more firmly around a predetermined set of parameters. This is a plus that can be overlooked at times. Give or take, really. Sacrifice a little hardware flexibility for increased overall stability.
As far as peripherals go, I've never had a problem connecting anything to my Mac. It's almost always a simple process with few to no drivers etc. involved. One warning, however, is that OS X uses HFS+ rather than Fat32 or whatever file formatting is used on WIndows these days. That said, Macs can recognize these formats, but Winddows cannot, so if you go back and forth with an external drive, be aware of that.
As far as software goes, OS X is definitely a different monster than Windows. It's essentially a nice candy coated UI placed on top of a UNIX core. There are a lot of diferences that may almost seem frustrating to Windows users that don't take the time to learn a new OS. Windows is not the 'only' way a good OS should work. Neither is Mac OS X. However, I think a lot of people make this assumption wrongly and come off with a negative view of OS X. Same way for Mac users going back to Windows. You could write books about how to effectively use OS X (There are many good ones, actually), and I encourage you to research a little bit about how OS X works to make a decision if it is the right OS for you. I've personally found that after doing thing the 'Mac way,' everything seems to run a lot more efficiently. If you're doing something and think there might be a better, easier, faster way on OS X, there probably is.
That said, the new Intel macs offer a unique opportunity in that you can run Windows, OS X, and Linux on the same box. This is a huge pro and one that shoulddn't be overlooked.
All that said (Man, did I really type that much?), I think Macs are a really good option, even moreso now due to the Intel switch. There is usually a program that runs on OS X that can replace whatever programs you're using every day on your Windows machine. And then there is always Boot Camp to take care of those apps (games) that you neeed Windows for. And Linux is really starting to come into its own. I think a new Mac is a great way to try out these alternate OS setups and it's an investment well worth every penny.
/end mac advertisement.
I switched from PC to Mac about a year ago. iBook G4. There are definitely some misconceptions on both sides of the Mac vs PC argument and a lot of it doesn't make any sense either way. It can be confusing for a consumer to get 'real facts' (do I sound like an infomercial yet?). Maybe I can clear a few things up.
Let's talk hardware first. With a Mac, unless you get the Mac Pro, you're going to be a bit stuck as far as upgrading goes. With laptops this isn't much of a problem, they're hard to pgrade anything past the hard drive no matter the manufacturer. From every Mac I've owned, used, or otherwise seen, they are built with a great quality. I'd say from the qualit of parts etc. that Macs are at least equal if not superior to similarly priced options.
Also, because upgradability is a bit limited, Apple knows pretty much what built-in hardware is being used. This is a real plus for stability because unlike whatever Frankenbox that Windows has to load on, Apple can build their OS more firmly around a predetermined set of parameters. This is a plus that can be overlooked at times. Give or take, really. Sacrifice a little hardware flexibility for increased overall stability.
As far as peripherals go, I've never had a problem connecting anything to my Mac. It's almost always a simple process with few to no drivers etc. involved. One warning, however, is that OS X uses HFS+ rather than Fat32 or whatever file formatting is used on WIndows these days. That said, Macs can recognize these formats, but Winddows cannot, so if you go back and forth with an external drive, be aware of that.
As far as software goes, OS X is definitely a different monster than Windows. It's essentially a nice candy coated UI placed on top of a UNIX core. There are a lot of diferences that may almost seem frustrating to Windows users that don't take the time to learn a new OS. Windows is not the 'only' way a good OS should work. Neither is Mac OS X. However, I think a lot of people make this assumption wrongly and come off with a negative view of OS X. Same way for Mac users going back to Windows. You could write books about how to effectively use OS X (There are many good ones, actually), and I encourage you to research a little bit about how OS X works to make a decision if it is the right OS for you. I've personally found that after doing thing the 'Mac way,' everything seems to run a lot more efficiently. If you're doing something and think there might be a better, easier, faster way on OS X, there probably is.
That said, the new Intel macs offer a unique opportunity in that you can run Windows, OS X, and Linux on the same box. This is a huge pro and one that shoulddn't be overlooked.
All that said (Man, did I really type that much?), I think Macs are a really good option, even moreso now due to the Intel switch. There is usually a program that runs on OS X that can replace whatever programs you're using every day on your Windows machine. And then there is always Boot Camp to take care of those apps (games) that you neeed Windows for. And Linux is really starting to come into its own. I think a new Mac is a great way to try out these alternate OS setups and it's an investment well worth every penny.
/end mac advertisement.
I reject your response on the grounds that calm, cool, level-headed reasoning has no place in a Mac vs. PC debate!
Just kidding of course. Thanks.
- Dave
