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Should people go to prison for filing false rape cases?

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...just stumbled in to this thread. I think there should be some wide sentencing guildelines for judges to consider and hopefully they would reserve the harsh end of the sentencing to those who had seemingly were caught "red-handed" on tape or such, admitting it was a fabrication. The lifetime consequences of being accused, let alone actually going to jail for a crime you didn't commit is horrifying when you consider the worst case scenarios.
True story: about 20 years ago I worked with my brother the attorney as his para-legal. Great looking woman comes in for an appt., I was acting as receptionist that day. Within 2 sentences I had determined she was smoking hot yet nutty as a squirrel turd. My brother only spent maybe 20 minutes before showing her out. 7 years later he had his final legal confrontation with this woman - she claimed he had climbed up to the balcony to her second story appt., broke in during daylight and raped her (3rd. time she had made some type of claim against him). Fortunately he had documented proof that at the time of the alleged assault he was trying a case in federal court hundreds of miles away. We discovered she was a career stalker who had obsessed over various men all her adult life. There are these types, what to do with them?
 
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brianrost said:
It's so hard for a victim to prove that the rape occurred, how the hell could you ever prove it did not occur? Geez...wot a stupid idea :scowl:
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MAybe you get video, audio proof of them telling someone they made it all up. Might be especially damning if they are like laughing and talking up their "acting performance". Like those fools that post youtubes of themselves committing a crime.
The first rule of crime is do it alone. The second rule is tell nobody; otherwise, you have to kill them to return back to rule 1 status.
 
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edpal said:
...just stumbled in to this thread. I think there should be some wide sentencing guildelines for judges to consider and hopefully they would reserve the harsh end of the sentencing to those who had seemingly were caught "red-handed" on tape or such, admitting it was a fabrication. The lifetime consequences of being accused, let alone actually going to jail for a crime you didn't commit is horrifying when you consider the worst case scenarios.
True story: about 20 years ago I worked with my brother the attorney as his para-legal. Great looking woman comes in for an appt., I was acting as receptionist that day. Within 2 sentences I had determined she was smoking hot yet nutty as a squirrel turd. My brother only spent maybe 20 minutes before showing her out. 7 years later he had his final legal confrontation with this woman - she claimed he had climbed up to the balcony to her second story appt., broke in during daylight and raped her (3rd. time she had made some type of claim against him). Fortunately he had documented proof that at the time of the alleged assault he was trying a case in federal court hundreds of miles away. We discovered she was a career stalker who had obsessed over various men all her adult life. There are these types, what to do with them?
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I dunno, completely re-vamp the legal system so that the millions of women who are raped have no recourse, and are accused of being tramps?
 
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edpal said:
...just stumbled in to this thread. I think there should be some wide sentencing guildelines for judges to consider and hopefully they would reserve the harsh end of the sentencing to those who had seemingly were caught "red-handed" on tape or such, admitting it was a fabrication. The lifetime consequences of being accused, let alone actually going to jail for a crime you didn't commit is horrifying when you consider the worst case scenarios.
True story: about 20 years ago I worked with my brother the attorney as his para-legal. Great looking woman comes in for an appt., I was acting as receptionist that day. Within 2 sentences I had determined she was smoking hot yet nutty as a squirrel turd. My brother only spent maybe 20 minutes before showing her out. 7 years later he had his final legal confrontation with this woman - she claimed he had climbed up to the balcony to her second story appt., broke in during daylight and raped her (3rd. time she had made some type of claim against him). Fortunately he had documented proof that at the time of the alleged assault he was trying a case in federal court hundreds of miles away. We discovered she was a career stalker who had obsessed over various men all her adult life. There are these types, what to do with them?
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Crazy people? Medication and/or institutionalization, if necessary.
 
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mellowinman said:
I dunno, completely re-vamp the legal system so that the millions of women who are raped have no recourse, and are accused of being tramps?
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I get the sarcasm bro. There is no easy answer. But if you have ever been wrongly caught up in the legal system (I was, it was VERY close, I actually considered suicide which I have never done before/since) you understand the pain of those acquitted without a doubt of their innocence. Like in those cases where it discovered or admitted the story was a fabrication. I certainly have sympathy for the women who ARE raped - that has so many possible consequences beyond the basic "Act" too. Disease, pregnancy, ruined relations and all the mental stuff. I have daughters - I worry about that crap every day a little.
 
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edpal said:
That's kind of sad and scary.
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I thought you were just complaining at how difficult it is to institutionalise somebody in the US?

Make up your mind.

By 'easy', in the UK, you still need a substantial body of evidence. "Grandma forgot her glasses this morning" doesn't cut it. But, the next of kin can declare and individual to be a risk to themselves and appropriate steps can be taken. I don't think there is a culture of people intentionally shuffling off elderly relatives to get to their money... maybe this is how you would abuse the system were it to exist in the US?
 
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