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SHOW YOUR DISTRESSED FINISHES!

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by JIO, Nov 5, 2013.


  1. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    This one (from China) is a bit more curious - really club-footed distressing (location/patterns) similar to the above example - but if you look closely, there are signs of scratching/scraping. Makes me wonder if these finishes started out as normal, and worker bees (to put it nicely) at tables individually scraped and scratched them following a 'guide example'. I wouldn't put it past some Chinese sweat-shop factories. Although Fenders version of the SRV strait is more like the one above - it also is not convincing at all.

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    You can see the darker scraped wood compared to the lighter clean wood. Maybe it was partially masked before spraying the finish.
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    This is where you can see scrape marks around the paint (below the jack) - looks hands-on to me.
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  2. I will acknowledge the last two posts presence but I shan't give them likes. It would be like condoning their makers behavior. :rollno:
     
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  3. 2saddleslab

    2saddleslab Supporting Member

    May 30, 2003
    Kentucky
    Agreed, there's a real art to making the wear look natural.:thumbsup:
     
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  4. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    And I have 'liked' your post. :) In this case, to investigate what makes a (faux) relic/distressed finish believable, you need to see/be aware of the opposite for reference. Not 'you' as in GFB, but that DIY'r who wants to try their hand at it. It's partially why I started this thread - to accumulate a library of real player-distressed examples for reference. As much as I do not like these manufactured versions, I find it interesting when something so individual/unique is attempted to be mass produced. I collect vintage sock-monkeys. They are wonderful, lovingly made folkloric icons hand-made for their children by mothers, aunts and their grandmothers. Then there's a Paul Frank sock monkey, mass produced in Chinese factories. Needless to say - one is very special from inception and the other is more eventual landfill.
     
  5. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    Preachin' to the choir! :)
     
  6. 2saddleslab

    2saddleslab Supporting Member

    May 30, 2003
    Kentucky
    Mass producing relic finishes would seem problematic. Either they all look the same [which defeats the individuality], to save $$, or, they have individual wear, and when done correctly, would really increase the price.

    My only experience is w/ MJT doing [3] individual relics. I think they are masters at it.
     
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  7. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    These grind-house factory companies see a faux distressed/relic finish purely as a selling point, a way they can sell more product as cheaply as possible. They only care to allude to the look. Even Fender is coming from the same tact - but the fact that they are the original company who started doing relic finishes in the early '90s - their version is more sophisticated and studied. (but still generic/machine mass produced)

    Well done faux relic finishes are and should be in the elite 'custom' category. Being so indicates a higher level of hand-made articulation which deserves justified financial compensation. It's no different than a Zemaitis guitar with their metal engraving. At least the hand engraved originals, as engraving has become digitally automated now and can be machine mass produced. MJT is one of a few out there in that high-end custom category of elite finishers.
     
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  8. sneha1965

    sneha1965

    Nov 7, 2007
    NOVA
    Just want to say I'm not liking the post because I like the relic job, but because I agree with your comments and example to support it.
     
  9. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    I totally understand - the "like" thing is a flawed device because it can also mean "agree", or "acknowledge". Seems like there should be a number of different ways to casually respond.
     
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  10. I just put this together as a spare for my 58 AVRI, but I'm not taking a sander to the body;) it's a nice 'burst and I'm just going to let it do its thing. It needs a proper bridge and some good old funk on the neck. But no sanders...it's has enough fake going on. IMG_20200128_231901.jpg
     
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  11. lowphatbass

    lowphatbass **** Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    west coast
    That sure is a good clean ‘burst.
     
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  12. Thanks, it is a good example color wise I think or at least what I like myself that way. The grain is uniform too and while the pic angle is off a little, that knot on the face is dead center of A and D like a belly button. Cool thing is the finish is really thin and is shrinking into the grain really well. Someday it will be mojo-y sort of.
     
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  13. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    My '66 J has a neck made for me by Dan Ransom/SF to early '66 dot & bound specs and at the time was finished in an amber tint by Pat Wilkins. I eventually sanded off the amber on the neck but it still has a clear-cut on top of the maple. I used those thin blue foam sanding pads which are very fine grit. The neck gets buffed to a gloss when played and so every once and a while I go over it with those pads back to satin.

    I've done pretty much all the different neck treatments (tung-oil, gun-stock oil, lacquer, hand-rubbed light coats of satin poly and opaque enamel w/lacquer clear-coat. The goal is always to get a protective seal (mostly against moisture/humidity) for the wood that is as thin as possible, feels good, and by default - looks good.
     
  14. I would have done the neck (RW 50s) a little differently myself, but overall I'm happy with it "feel" wise. The shape is a little thinner than expected, much like the 58 profile, not super chunky, very comfortable. Set up really low and straight, smooth truss rod, etc so a really nice neck but my niggles would be, as pointed out previously, the treatment is a bit forced visually and decal is on the wrong side of the lacquer;) and what is supposed to be a cig burn is more like a soldering pencil burn that I could do without. Not as baked Cheeto and dirt like say, a Nash, but just like the other thousands like it. I went with the neck after hearing how nice they felt and I will say it is well constructed and feels nice and worn in, but a visual clone. I really enjoy spraying but dont have a heated garage so the paint guns sit idle now. I might bother with it come spring.
     
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  15. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe

    This is an interesting point. I have never done that 'look' but being in the non-production category I would put an actual lit cig there. :)
     
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  16. As someone who has, both intentionally and accidently I can with confidence say they really missed the mark on their attempt. Oh well. Since I don't anymore it will just have to be as is.
     
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  17. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    On a humorous note, imagine passing a "smoking room" at the Fender factory where employees added the cig detail to RW necks while smoking. Well, funny as a 2D cartoon anyway... :)
     
  18. One of those old B&W cartoons where everyone moved all rubbery like. But see? While I like this bass a lot (from another thread) this necks owner played the exact same notes repeatedly and smoked the exact same cig a my necks donor :laugh: uncanny coincidence? No. P case.jpg
     
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  19. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Oceana (Pacifica) CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    Well... this actually could be the case for someone who regularly plays cruise-ship/Las Vegas gigs... :bassist: ;)
     
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  20. Doctor Intrepid

    Doctor Intrepid

    Dec 27, 2017
    My grandfather's fiddle. IMG_20200108_2145248.jpg
     
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