I'm sure I'm adding nothing to this, but I'd rather listen to Bollocks than almost any "bass chops" album. Whether he could play or not is really beside the point. Bass players are such an insecure bunch (shrug).
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Sid Vicious could play the bass
- Thread starter Panek
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Sid's image fit the band. They didn't give a rats a@# about his ability to play. And Lydon said in his book Sid was "one of the Johns". They were mates.
I loved that record when it came out. We played it endlessly. Still do listen from time to time.
I loved that record when it came out. We played it endlessly. Still do listen from time to time.
To be clear, he didn’t play on any of ‘Bollocks’, save for a buried take on “Bodies”, which was covered over by Steve Jones.
I probably should have made myself more clear. Threads like this and the numerous Jaco threads, and who's better who's best threads always end up the same. People post hate and vitriol and others post love and admiration. Most of the hate and vitriol are not based in reality. Most of the love and admiration are akin to a fawning 13 year-old.
Do we need to argue about Sid Vicious' bass skills and if Jaco is the world's greatest player?
I learned a long time ago around here that arguing and spewing hate and taking replies personally is useless.
I also think you are reading way more into my response than necessary. I feel you are making me out to be some kind of pro-censorship, opinion bashing monger. I'll say this much...I stopped replying to threads for awhile. I now think it's time to stop again.
I made the mistake of replying to this thread. I guess if more of the community stopped replying to these type of threads they would disappear and maybe TalkBass could be a better place. Can't we just talk about the bass? Instead we participate in these threads and argue about subjective topics that really don't matter.
I certainly don't want to walk down this hypothetical dangerous road you alluded to. In fact that comment makes me want to spew hate and vitriol. I'd say much more but hey, I certainly don't want to get reprimanded or banned.
Sid was the only band member who understood that anarchy doesn’t have a time signature or a downbeat.
The drummer probably knew but kept the beat anyway, and the guitarist was an enabler.
I mean it man!
The drummer probably knew but kept the beat anyway, and the guitarist was an enabler.
I mean it man!
Right, but I feel like most of this has been pretty civil discourse aside from the posts that say stuff like, "I've never heard him and don't listen to this sort of music, but I believe this "insert player here", sucks...
Most of the thread has been fun.
Your words certainly implied that you were ok with " disappearing" this thread.
The thread exists. We can read and not respond, give measured responses, say what we really think or totally skip threads like this.
I agree with much of what you say regarding theses types of threads in general.
I will withhold my opinion on Sid's playing ability. I wouldnt be giving an overly informed opinion and the SP were not in my wheelhouse back in the day, though several similar and Pistols-inspired acts did make it onto my radar.
The thread exists. We can read and not respond, give measured responses, say what we really think or totally skip threads like this.
I agree with much of what you say regarding theses types of threads in general.
I will withhold my opinion on Sid's playing ability. I wouldnt be giving an overly informed opinion and the SP were not in my wheelhouse back in the day, though several similar and Pistols-inspired acts did make it onto my radar.
He might have been the only one to not understand it was all art school prankery.
Let's settle this the right way, guys. Vote now!
Jaco vs. Sid VIcious: The Ultimate Shootout (W/ Poll!)
You'd be taking it the wrong way. Sid's real name was John. He and Rotten both hung around Malcom's store "SEX". When they needed a singer it was suggested to Malcom that they "get that guy, John". The story goes that he (and Jones) thought they meant Lydon, when in actuality, the person was suggesting Sid (who wasn't going be that name yet). Malcom and Jones went and got the wrong "John".
Well, if you say that Sid could actually play the bass - even though somewhat...badly.., I'll certainly believe you. Personally, the Sex Pistols and their...music, does not (and never did) appeal to me at all, but, that's neither here nor there. I've never heard a note from them - and don't plan to. But, if you say he can play - and have proof (more or less)? Then, so be it...
One thing, though.. Heroin does not - and never has - "set in". Unless somebody holds you down, and sticks needles in your arm - repeatedly - you have to get yourself addicted. Heroin is not the flu - or cancer - which does set in...
Heroin may not “set in” but addiction sure does.
You do realize that addiction is a legitimate illness, right?
I agree that Complete Control is probably my favourite punk song ever. Still a great tune 43 years later.
I go away or a couple days and now the poll is gone. I was so looking forward to it, what could possibly go wrong?
