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Singer is a Felon

Nope, I haven’t, and unless he‘s really, really good it sounds like to much of a PITA too. But if he’s your friend, and your friend probably needs the job, so I guess you’ve got to do whatever you’ve got to do. Good luck and best wishes.

I just met him three weeks ago. He's part of the deal that comes with the drummer I know from a few years back. He's got some song writing talents that is for sure. His lead work is so so.
 
I had a singer that was fresh from Betty Ford, started playing with him about 4 months after he got out.

He had the guitarist mainlining cocaine within about 7 weeks.

Not exactly the same situation, but generally folks in that kind of transitional phase are not going to be super reliable. They may or may not also be looking to relapse with a new "buddy"/drag someone down with them, so that can be problematic if there's anyone else in the band that's impressionable.

As always YMMV.

Also, I've been around meth abusers, if you're not doing that yourself and/or do not have extensive experience with them, this will probably get messy. I'm assuming you fall into one of those categories as "5 years in prison for meth" didn't send you running to the hills already.

I have seen a number of folks get caught in that particular trap, and even the ones that pull themselves out, and appear ok for years, can have occasional relapses. So, even if he wants to be clean....there's a pretty big chance there will be downstream problems.

If this was pot or something I'd tell you to laugh it off (and you probably wouldn't even post over that.) Heroin and meth though are really, really nasty drugs that get their hooks pretty deep into their abusers. If you haven't had personal experience with the depths that folks in that situation can sink to, it's probably best to stay away.

I grew up around a ton of meth head friends. I left them alone when they were on it though. My nephew was a dealer in San Diego and he got busted and then got clean and stayed that way.

The younger nephew started when he was 12 and been doing it ever since in CA and is now 32. He'll never get off the stuff.
 
...Ran into this a lot myself when I was younger; recruiters would try and get me into government tech jobs...

Don't know what it is these days, but back in the day I hired machinists and welders for a company that existed solely on government contracts. After the interview if they got hired I sent them straight to the Doc-in-the-box down the street for a physical and pee in a cup. At that time new hires were tested at random like regular employees so you may or may not actually get tested when you were hired, but we never told anyone that. We left them to assume they were going to be tested and had a deal with the place to treat them like they were in fact being tested. It was a great way to keep dopers out and since some were actually tested, it was a very effective method of self regulating the dopers. As soon as I mentioned the drug test, eyes would roll and invariably I'd hear "I don't smoke, but (inset tale of woe here)...maybe I better wait a while before I test". Some would leave the interview and just not go for the physical/test.

I'd imagine in the post 911 hysteria, the random testing of new hires got tightened up because as we all know, or as our Uncle would surely surmise, if you smoke pot you are A. subversive and B. Most likely a muslim.
 
I'm to take a shot at this- the probation period sounds like they tried to hit him with distribution / sales charges, but something happened, and they couldn't make it stick (the short jail time) so they hit him on the probation time. Or else there was some other factor in there, like he was caught with the offspring of somebody with some power. At any rate, he could be an asset to the band, if he has reformed. Someone in the band should be a close friend of his. You do not want to sneak around checking up on him - more often than not, this will create bad feelings.

If the band works to show his probation officer that the guy is do the right things, like making vids of the band, or making certain that no one in the band gets drunk, loaded or stoned around him, the Probation officer will give the guy some slack. The band should go out of its way to prove to the probation officer that the members are being good influences on him all the time. In sum, the band could keep him from going back to his old ways. If he does, then the band will know it wasn't because of something the band did.
 
I'm to take a shot at this- the probation period sounds like they tried to hit him with distribution / sales charges, but something happened, and they couldn't make it stick (the short jail time) so they hit him on the probation time. Or else there was some other factor in there, like he was caught with the offspring of somebody with some power. At any rate, he could be an asset to the band, if he has reformed. Someone in the band should be a close friend of his. You do not want to sneak around checking up on him - more often than not, this will create bad feelings.

If the band works to show his probation officer that the guy is do the right things, like making vids of the band, or making certain that no one in the band gets drunk, loaded or stoned around him, the Probation officer will give the guy some slack. The band should go out of its way to prove to the probation officer that the members are being good influences on him all the time. In sum, the band could keep him from going back to his old ways. If he does, then the band will know it wasn't because of something the band did.

That's not what parole means. In this case, he was sentenced to 20 years and after 5, he was eligable for parole ,aka supervised release. Technically, he's still serving his sentence which is why having any interaction with police,in any way , could result in him having to finish his remaining time inside.
 
Session1969 is correct.

PAROLE IS NOTHING TO TAKE LIGHTLY.

Easy for us to say there needs to be room for slack, but violation of probation means usually serving the rest of the sentence without further probation..Serving the whole thing!

I had to supervise inmates prior to release some years back to get them 'adjusted' to returning to the free-world.....hated it.

I may lead a boring life in comparison to some.. but ..I 'couldn't serve the time', which is why I avoid criminal actions and crinminal acticvity.
 
If you take the drug connotations away and look at the limitations, its like you are dating the daughter of the head of Westboro Baptist Church: early curfews, state line permission slips, strange history, and the foreknowledge that its a 16 year march outside of >possible< good behavior bonuses once you have gained "daddy's" trust.

And since this is a band, you know your dates will be at metal shows if things work for the best. If its a major theater booking/multi-band crammers, you'll be fine and can even use the restrictions to get better billing placement if the promoter digs you. If they are at hole in the wall bars with local metal fans you will be dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight.

This "girl" better be the best musical _ _ _ k you've ever had for it to be worth it, IMO. Its not like you met him first...he's a stipulation of the drummer. Who the FK is he to hancuff this baggage to others?

Methdaddy better be Scott Wieland, and Drumdaddy better be Ginger Baker. If so then dye your head red and no-soul the fuq out of your scene. If not consider it community service at best and try to do most of the driving. You are never going to get the whole story you are about to be a part of but you may have a part in the best of it. Just have to decide if its your story.
 
GlennW...
Second thoughts....


Worst accident I have ever been in..driver ran a stop sign. I was slightly injured..she totalleD my vehicle..She took all the tickets..insurance handled the rest..BUT.

...HAD I BEEN KILLED ??...Vehicular Homicide....Don't take running Stop Signs so carlessly.

Also Speeding is a major cause of deathson our roadways....

...So..Now my original and my total premise stands.
 
GlennW...
Second thoughts....


Worst accident I have ever been in..driver ran a stop sign. I was slightly injured..she totalleD my vehicle..She took all the tickets..insurance handled the rest..BUT.

...HAD I BEEN KILLED ??...Vehicular Homicide....Don't take running Stop Signs so carlessly.

Also Speeding is a major cause of deathson our roadways....

...So..Now my original and my total premise stands.

This premise will not stand, man.