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Single 12" that has real bottom ?

#41
this reminds me that I don't know the formulae for ohm configuration.:help: is it that each added driver cuts the load in half? what about crossover? so If I run a 210, then a 112 below, driving with the yorkie xs400 head.... is that a 4-ohm draw or ???, assuming they're both ostensibly 8-ohm cabs.
z
 
#43
Zapp said:
this reminds me that I don't know the formulae for ohm configuration.:help: is it that each added driver cuts the load in half? what about crossover? so If I run a 210, then a 112 below, driving with the yorkie xs400 head.... is that a 4-ohm draw or ???, assuming they're both ostensibly 8-ohm cabs.
z
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If they're both the same impedence then adding them in parallel gives a total impedence that is half of the individual impedence.

Otherwise, the equation for the total impedence of n speakers with impedences (Z1, Z2, Z3,..., Zn) in parallel with one another is:

Z_total = 1 / (1/Z1 + 1/Z2 + 1/Z3 + ... + 1/Zn)
 
#46
Geoff St. Germaine said:
If they're both the same impedence then adding them in parallel gives a total impedence that is half of the individual impedence.

Otherwise, the equation for the total impedence of n speakers with impedences (Z1, Z2, Z3,..., Zn) in parallel with one another is:

Z_total = 1 / (1/Z1 + 1/Z2 + 1/Z3 + ... + 1/Zn)
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I hesitate to ask..... but here goes.
I guess I can only do two in parallel [two outputs w/same impedance on the back of the amp]. If I run cabs in serial.... 'chained' one after another, what is the effect? I remember reading somewhere that, all other things being equal, the last speaker in the chain is actually demanding more than the others.... which is why one got fried! [in a PA rig]
????
z
 
#49
I have played through a used soveriegn loaded with a kappa 12 at guitar center about an hour away from where i live, and that was the first time that i saw another earcandy cab in person other than my own. when i first saw it i was thinking who could possibly trade that in? i set it up into a gk 1001rb and turned it up a little to be careful since it is a powerful head. and i started playing some stu hamm cuz i was playing a used urge bass and i noticed how much clearer it sounded than my earcandy bass angel( bassically a bassbomb with an eminence tweeter and crossover package) and how much less fluttery and more precise and tight it sounded than my bassbomb. it was great, but that was my only experience with a soveriegn. definitly nowhere near as loud than my 212s, but it would make the perfect traveler.
now, with my bassbomb and bass angel, i have giged about 40 times in the 4 months that i have had them.
oh yeah, Tim seems to be very busy and takes his time it took approximately 3 months more than expected to recieve them!
 
#50
Name Changed said:
I have played through a used soveriegn loaded with a kappa 12 at guitar center about an hour away from where i live, and that was the first time that i saw another earcandy cab in person other than my own. when i first saw it i was thinking who could possibly trade that in? i set it up into a gk 1001rb and turned it up a little to be careful since it is a powerful head. and i started playing some stu hamm cuz i was playing a used urge bass and i noticed how much clearer it sounded than my earcandy bass angel( bassically a bassbomb with an eminence tweeter and crossover package) and how much less fluttery and more precise and tight it sounded than my bassbomb. it was great, but that was my only experience with a soveriegn. definitly nowhere near as loud than my 212s, but it would make the perfect traveler.
now, with my bassbomb and bass angel, i have giged about 525 times in the 4 months that i have had them.
oh yeah, Tim seems to be very busy and takes his time it took approximately 3 months more than expected to recieve them!
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That's almost 4.5 gigs per day!!! You must either be really good (and stupid for the amount of school missed), a poor typist, or a liar (in this option I include "alter-ego of another TB member").

Mike
 
#51
SMASH said:
Right. Which 1x12 cabs have you used extensively, for what purposes, at what volumes, and which ones have you gigged and in what types of rooms and band configs? Please specify if you were using PA or not on those gigs. Thanks.
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oh yeah, with the bass angel on top of the bassbomb with no PA backing my band up, they rose to victory. We played in our schools Ram Bowl, which is our high school football field/stadium for a big cancer society fund raiser and about 1000 people were there, mostly us teenagers that attend riverview( my school) and i swear these cabs didnt sweat at all for a LLOONNG time. this was an over night sleep over event and the cabs never boomed and sounded just as good at the endzones and up on the bleechers,cuz the other band payed me $10 to use them.

My setup was my cirrus claro walnut 5 string through my svp pro preamp into my carvin dcm2000 which i had it on stereo at 4 ohms each, putting 1000 watts into each cabinet, not limited, with the preamp turned to halfway gain. it rapes. and at an outdoor event with my two guitarist running twin full stack marshalls and my evil drummer and a huge field. my bass angel is orange with a mohagony stain front and my bass bomb is black naugahyde with a burl walnut transparent front and back. not only are these thing sexy, they are EVIL.:bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: :bassist:
 
#53
Can you compare the Ear Candy cabinets to another brand that people would recognize so we could have a better idea of what they sound like and how loud they are?
 
#54
Name Changed said:
Actually earcandy cabs soveriegn 1 by 12 is the best 112 cabinet ever. i have a bassbomb and a bassangel and those are both 212s and will both of them i drowned a basson 810 and a bxt115 ampeg
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Umm.....so do you even own a 112??
You stated, they are both 212's. So how do the 112's become the "best ever" if you have the 212??
Have you tried: Aguilar, Epifani, Accugroove, EA, Eden, Bergantino, LDS, Bag End, Glockenclang??
I have.

Haven't heard an Ear Candy, but judging from the lack of specs on their web site, I seriously dought any ground breaking speakers done in their shop.

Pick your speakers and drop them in a generic box?!?!!!!
Just throw caution to the wind and to hell with TS parameters!!

And I'm sorry, but after 20+ years and more gigs under my belt than days of you able to even lift a 112, I have never, and this includes tours small and large, again never, had a cab (or a pair of 212's as you stated) able to fill out a football field from end-zone to end-zone and fill the bleachers as well.
If that was the case, then by now someone here on TB besides you, would have heard of them by now. Especally if they can fill out a football field! An outdoor one at that!!

BTW, when are you gonna post up some sample of your playing like you mentioned before. And pics of your rig/basses.

There is an un-written rule here at TB. It don't exsist without a pic!
:D

Back on topic.
I still say bang for the buck, the Aguilar 112 is killing.
It IMO ruined the 112 market, as when it came out, everyone else had to re-think the 112.

My fav is still Epifani though!;)
 
#55
Zapp said:
I hesitate to ask..... but here goes.
I guess I can only do two in parallel [two outputs w/same impedance on the back of the amp]. If I run cabs in serial.... 'chained' one after another, what is the effect? I remember reading somewhere that, all other things being equal, the last speaker in the chain is actually demanding more than the others.... which is why one got fried! [in a PA rig]
????
z
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In series the impedences add, but it is typically not very easy to run cabinets in series. Daisy chaining results in the cabs being in parallel and almost all speaker outputs on amps are wired in parallel. The only one I know of that is wired in series is the external cabinet jack on the Eden Nemesis combos, and it may not even be that way on the new ones.
 
#57
Accugroove Tri-112's do come up on the used market occaisionally. There was one recently for sale on this very board. You probably can't find one for $500, though. Yes, it has "real low end". The neo versions only weigh 38 lbs. I can't do a comparison to all the others under discussion, sorry. I can tell you that since experiencing Accugroove I have no cab GAS. My AI Contra EX doesn't count as I think of it as a monitor :D .

Ken
 
#58
hey mikebass,
i didnt say they sounded just as loud, i said they sounded just as good. the tone of these cabs project farther than any other cab that i have played and i have played alot. that is how these cabs dont have tweeters cuz of that reason, even though my bass angel has one, i turn it all the way down cuz the box seems to really be able to emphasize the high end tonal spectrum with a delta lf and a kappa 12 which are the speakers loaded in both my earcandys.

so yeah,
mikebass if you tryed one out for yourself, i am sure you would know what i am saying.
:bassist: :bassist: :bassist:
 
#59
Name Changed said:
hey mikebass,
i didnt say they sounded just as loud, i said they sounded just as good. the tone of these cabs project farther than any other cab that i have played and i have played alot. that is how these cabs dont have tweeters cuz of that reason, even though my bass angel has one, i turn it all the way down cuz the box seems to really be able to emphasize the high end tonal spectrum with a delta lf and a kappa 12 which are the speakers loaded in both my earcandys.

so yeah,
mikebass if you tryed one out for yourself, i am sure you would know what i am saying.
:bassist: :bassist: :bassist:
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Even so man, off axis, cabs sound different. REALLY different.
And again, I assume you were at the 50 yard line or so, facing the bleachers, in either end-zone and in the bleachers, a pair of 212 cabs sounding......sorry man, can't buy it.
Not saying TO YOU they don't sound good.
But nothing can carry like that.
Oh, and then you factor the croud of 1000+ teenagers like you said??!??!!!!!!
Again, sorry man. I've met PA's that would have issues keeping up with a gig like you described.

TB is a tight knit group, and no one has stacked the claims that you have.

Even to carry tone in an open football field from end to end alone (while the cabs are pointing towards somthing that will have little reflection) is a pretty tall statement.
Again, off axis.
Your claims don't hold a lot of water there son!!
But hey, maybe EarCandy has come up with something like the AccuSwitch for projection (do a search, you'll figure it out). ;)

Why don't you post up you experence at the one gig (the "Football Show") as a review here in the amps forum.
We all do it with gear. Helps out or fellow players to know about gear and stuff.
So, why are you reading this any longer?!??!???
Go cut and past your post to a new thread man!!!!:D



Back on topic AGAIN!!
ZAPP, I just remembered that LDS (Low Down Sound) makes a "sub" type of single 12.
Ryan (one of the guys that works there) has one and digs it. Maybe fly a call in to them about it.
 
#60
A large bass horn is the only device I know that will carry a note that far. The lower the frequency, the farther it travels. Bass horns generate lows that direct radiators do not, so they carry farther.

This can be heard at outdoor gigs by approaching the stage from far away. The first thing you hear is the bass, and the rest of the noise increases as you get closer.
 

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