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Single Cut basses, Just a fad?

Is there a Single cut bass in your future?

  • No way! I have no desire to own a single cut bass.

    Votes: 135 37.1%
  • Most certainly! I will definitely get one some day.

    Votes: 46 12.6%
  • I already have one and it's my forever bass!

    Votes: 40 11.0%
  • Single or double...It doesn't matter as long as it does what I need it to.

    Votes: 143 39.3%

  • Total voters
    364
Not sure what your basing your reply on but in my house it's not true. I attached images of two main basses... The single cut has access to the F (on the G string), while double cut has access to an A (on the G string). The 4 fret difference is important to me.

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In this case, the improved upper fret access on the SC is most likely because it is a neck-through-body instrument.
The Roscoe is a bolt-on, which requires more "meat" of body wood around the neck joint to support the neck heel.

Even with that - the shape/depth of the treble cutaway is not dictated by the presence or absence of an upper cutaway.
It is simply a function of the design and layout of the instrument.
A good counterexample is the Les Paul (single cutaway) vs. SG (double cutaway) - the SG has WAY better upper fret access,
because the guitar is designed for it.

Take this thought experiment: if your Roscoe were an unlined fretless, you could move the bridge a few inches towards the neck.
You would then have a full two-octave range. Ditto in reverse for the Fodera - what is important is the *relationship* between the string scale
and the treble side cutaway.

The modern SC shape originated by Fodera was intended to stiffen the neck by shortening the cantilevered portion.
The goal was to improve sustain, stability, and frequency response. The greater stiffness is much more relevant than the
oft-cited increase in "neck-to-body contact", which is a dubious variable anyway with an instrument like a Fodera where it's all glued together.
Neck stiffness is a HUGE determinant in tone/response/stability etc.
Fodera should get due credit for going out on a limb with this design way back when - they have moved the field forward, and a lot of guys
are building SCs now, including myself (though mine are bolt-ons...different conversation).
 
My big question is the additional cost is worth it. I can see the advantage of having a single cut bass to provide access to upper strings. But often the cost of the actual instrument is twice the price. Is it worth it?

While that may have been true a decade or more ago it's far from it now. You can find a new singlecut for under $400.
 
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I had my first modern singlecut built in 2002, purely for esthetic reasons. Probably have around a dozen now and have bought and sold several more. Other than looks, there is no music that I can't play on a single of doublecut, no inherent playability differences... they're basses. I don't get hung up on looks, I'm just as happy playing either style, they don't make me want to vomit or have any of the other over-dramatic reactions they do with others. No high fret access issues, no twisting. I like them and couldn't care less who doesn't.
:D

These are some of my Brubakers. I also have more Brubakers, an R Bass, a Bone Avatar and have had several Elricks, an Adler, Nordstrand, etc. They're basses and I play them. Wherever, whenever.

:D

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In this case, the improved upper fret access on the SC is most likely because it is a neck-through-body instrument.
The Roscoe is a bolt-on, which requires more "meat" of body wood around the neck joint to support the neck heel.

Even with that - the shape/depth of the treble cutaway is not dictated by the presence or absence of an upper cutaway.
It is simply a function of the design and layout of the instrument.
A good counterexample is the Les Paul (single cutaway) vs. SG (double cutaway) - the SG has WAY better upper fret access,
because the guitar is designed for it.

Take this thought experiment: if your Roscoe were an unlined fretless, you could move the bridge a few inches towards the neck.
You would then have a full two-octave range. Ditto in reverse for the Fodera - what is important is the *relationship* between the string scale
and the treble side cutaway.

The modern SC shape originated by Fodera was intended to stiffen the neck by shortening the cantilevered portion.
The goal was to improve sustain, stability, and frequency response. The greater stiffness is much more relevant than the
oft-cited increase in "neck-to-body contact", which is a dubious variable anyway with an instrument like a Fodera where it's all glued together.
Neck stiffness is a HUGE determinant in tone/response/stability etc.
Fodera should get due credit for going out on a limb with this design way back when - they have moved the field forward, and a lot of guys
are building SCs now, including myself (though mine are bolt-ons...different conversation).

If this picture hasn't been posted yet... It should have been!
I happen to really like the SC design, and THIS

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example of Mr. keith's work (...and there are plenty more!) exemplifies how striking these builds can be,
along with the fact that this and the vast majority of other SC's are top-rate instruments in every other respect.

Now, if you STILL don't like the SC concept- That's cool, it's a free Country.
But IMO- You're missing out!:cool:
 
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I had my first modern singlecut built in 2002, purely for esthetic reasons. Probably have around a dozen now and have bought and sold several more. Other than looks, there is no music that I can't play on a single of doublecut, no inherent playability differences... they're basses. I don't get hung up on looks, I'm just as happy playing either style, they don't make me want to vomit or have any of the other over-dramatic reactions they do with others. No high fret access issues, no twisting. I like them and couldn't care less who doesn't.
:D

These are some of my Brubakers. I also have more Brubakers, an R Bass, a Bone Avatar and have had several Elricks, an Adler, Nordstrand, etc. They're basses and I play them. Wherever, whenever.

:D

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Wow, beautiful!
 
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